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Bewbies 01-31-2013 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9367063)
You better get more than 5 or 6 years out of a top 10 pick.

That's why I said pick 34. I agree with you.

MagicHef 01-31-2013 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9367063)
You better get more than 5 or 6 years out of a top 10 pick.

Sure, but how many top 10 picks last?

6 of 2006's top ten didn't last 7 years with the team that picked him.

5 of 2007's top ten didn't last 6 years (although one died, so maybe he shouldn't count).

3 of 2008's top ten didn't last 5 years.

htismaqe 01-31-2013 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 9367343)
Sure, but how many top 10 picks last?

6 of 2006's top ten didn't last 7 years with the team that picked him.

5 of 2007's top ten didn't last 6 years (although one died, so maybe he shouldn't count).

3 of 2008's top ten didn't last 5 years.

With the team that drafted them?

Just because guys without spinal stenosis bust doesn't mean you should take a guy with spinal stenosis and expect him not to...

MagicHef 01-31-2013 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9367395)
With the team that drafted them?

Just because guys without spinal stenosis bust doesn't mean you should take a guy with spinal stenosis and expect him not to...

If you're sure that the 4 or so years you would get from him would be great, I think he would be worth a late 1st. 4 years of greatness is much better than a bunch of average years.

htismaqe 01-31-2013 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 9367418)
If you're sure that the 4 or so years you would get from him would be great, I think he would be worth a late 1st. 4 years of greatness is much better than a bunch of average years.

That's the problem, you can never be sure.

From what I've read, Earl Campbell had spinal stenosis. He's in the HoF.

Then you have guys that never play a down after they're diagnosed.

To me, it's just not worth the risk, at least not that high in the draft...

Bewbies 01-31-2013 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9367429)
That's the problem, you can never be sure.

From what I've read, Earl Campbell had spinal stenosis. He's in the HoF.

Then you have guys that never play a down after they're diagnosed.

To me, it's just not worth the risk, at least not that high in the draft...

That's amazing if true, Campbell was a BEAST.

BossChief 01-31-2013 02:30 PM

Didn't Samaritan Rolle have it, too?

Thought that was the reason we didn't sign him and moved a pick for Surtain.

The Franchise 01-31-2013 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9368075)
Didn't Samaritan Rolle have it, too?

Thought that was the reason we didn't sign him and moved a pick for Surtain.

He has epilepsy.

Bewbies 01-31-2013 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9368075)
Didn't Samaritan Rolle have it, too?

Thought that was the reason we didn't sign him and moved a pick for Surtain.

Rolle made a good move by staying away from Gunther.

htismaqe 01-31-2013 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9368075)
Didn't Samaritan Rolle have it, too?

Thought that was the reason we didn't sign him and moved a pick for Surtain.

I don't know if it was ever confirmed but all the reports seemed to suggest that Rolle had a narrowing of the cervical spine, which would be stenosis.

BossChief 01-31-2013 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9368087)
He has epilepsy.

I think tats a symptom of what he had...which I remember the same as Htis...that it was a narrowing of he spine. Same as what Jones has.

He played till he was 32.

O.city 02-01-2013 04:26 PM

Is there anyway Arthur Brown makes it to the 3rd round?

Sorter 02-01-2013 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9371029)
Is there anyway Arthur Brown makes it to the 3rd round?

No way he makes it out of the second IMO. Could probably go in the first.

RunKC 02-01-2013 09:50 PM

Walter is ****ing high if he thinks Tyler Wilson is going in the 2nd round, let alone AFTER EJ Manuel ROFL

Sorter 02-01-2013 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9371701)
Walter is ****ing high if he thinks Tyler Wilson is going in the 2nd round, let alone AFTER EJ Manuel ROFL

I could potentially see Kelly snatching Manuel at #4 over Tyler. I can't in any way, imagine Tyler falling to the 2nd round. It would take IMO either Joeckel or Fisher falling to AZ and then Arians would have a very tough choice IMO. DO you try and help arguably the worst OL in the NFL and hope for a QB later that will probably not be a good fit or do you take a QB and hope to build your OL later + FA. I think that Arians will take a QB and will do his damnedest to build their OL via FA and in the draft after selecting their QB.


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