Sell me on Mike Glennon
 

Right now I don't see anything about the guy that I like.

I haven't watched any more than about 2 minutes of live game footage. I've seen a bunch of highlights of his throws on youtube.

I want to like the guy. I want him to be good so people will stop bitching about how supposedly terrible this year's QB class is, but every time I watch something of his, I get turned off. He's 2nd round material at best to me that will (possibly) get taken in the top 10? Some people even have him as the top QB off the board?

That's pure insanity to me.

Tell me/show me stuff about Mike Glennon that will change my mind. I promise to withhold all preconceived notions about the guy in this thread for the purposes of trying to like him.

Based on the stuff I have watched so far, no. He's NOT better than Geno Smith, and he won't ever be. But I'm tired of shitting on him when everybody is talking him up as potentially a good pro QB.

he can juggle chainsaws...other than that..

Why?

Why do you want to be sold on the 4th or 5th best option when you have the #1 pick?

I'm just tired of shitting on him in discussions about QBs. I'm not looking for the Chiefs to draft him, but if there's something good about the guy that people really like, I want to know what it is.

He's white. So therefor he is not Vince Young.

I was about to say this.


He's tall and white. Therefor he is Tom Brady.

He is half ostrich.

I think he's no better than fourth round material in a normal world.

He's got excellent arm strength and a very good delivery, but he's very inaccurate when he's forced to make a throw. He gets anxious when the game gets put into his hands.

He's got better than ideal size, is smart and understands football from what I hear.

He just struggles when the pressure starts to mount and he's not very accurate in the mid to deep areas of the field, especially on anything other than straight post patterns.

He's no better a prospect than someone like Osweiler or Mallet from recent drafts. A better person but a worse football player actually.

IMO, he'd make a terrific third QB running the scout team. That's his ceiling as far as I see it.

I feel like I had this exact thread last year only it was about Nick Foles. I didn't get it. I still don't get it.

But I appreciate your benevolence in granting people the opportunity to state their case.

He has experience playing under center. That's one thing he has going for him, I guess.

Nick Foles is/was a shit ton better prospect than Mike Glennon.

No.

:harumph:

Best size you could ask for for a QB, played under center a lot, arguably the strongest arm in the draft, put up great numbers despite being on a team completely void of offensive talent and a coach that is a dumbass, said to have a very high football IQ that scouts are impressed with.

If he was at USC this year, he would have had 4,000 yards, 40 TD's and a 65% comp percentage.

(crickets)

Wow you think his ceiling is 3rd string?

He absolutely does not have a stronger arm than Bray.

So you are using football IQ in this thread as being a huge positive, but in the Geno thread you say we have to use it against Geno because the combine hasn't happened yet and we don't know about it?

Beverly and I want to know

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There you go.

isn't this a deal breaker?

If true doesn't that make him a backup QB, at best?


it will take about 3 games before defenses learn that all you have to do is spook him and he turns to shit.

He sounds like a guy I would take a chance on if I had a middle-late first round pick and a veteran QB (like the Chiefs had in 2005 with Green and the potential to draft Rodgers). I wouldn't put Glennon anywhere CLOSE to the starting lineup in his rookie year.

If this were 2011 and the Chiefs drafted him in the 2nd round, I would put him 3rd on the depth chart behind Cassel and Quinn/Stanzi. Some time on the bench is exactly what he needs if he has any hopes at being a great starting QB.

He is the king of slants and Captain Checkdown 2.0

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Seriously, King of Slants. LMAO

"He plays extremely conservative against good defenses, and will check down on plays where a deeper route may have been open."

He'll fit right into the process.

Both Geno and Glennon (and Wilson for that matter) are rumored to have a high football IQ.

We know for a fact that RG3 has an A+ football IQ because he was already tested at the combine. We don't know that for Geno, Glennon, Wilson or any QB from the 2013 class yet.

That video makes me think of Ryan Tannehill.

He checked down more in this game than any others, but I guarantee you, if you put up any other QB's game film against FSU you'd see the same thing. FSU has the best YPP in the nation this year.

Can you blame him? He's playing against the best pass rushing defense in college football. He doesn't have any time to set his feet or for his shitty WR's to run a route.

Tank Carradine and Bjoern Werner both have double digit sacks this year and Glennon has 5 OL who will be selling insurance after college.

looks like Cassel part 2 in this clip

His completion percentage this year, was dog shit.

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Now, I can't watch the full game now, but just looking at Boyd's stats I can already tell that he didn't checkdown as much as Mike "1st Round" Glennon did.

Boyd 20/36 237yds 6.6avg 3td 1int

Glennon 30/55 259yds 4.7avg 2td 1int

I think the fact that he's a mouth breather should knock him down at least a round.

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Well it doesn't really help him that his WR's drop the ball more than any team in college.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/...7/mike-glennon


Look at his season game by game.

I've watched quite a bit of video on Glennon, and he has a lot of passes dropped. I'm confident that when the draft comes he will have worked his way into the late to middle first round.

I think Bray is a better prospect than Glennon, but his intangibles aren't as good. I think Bray has a much higher upside than Glennon.

The same shit is said about Cassel.

It's not the receivers.

It's the delivery and timing of the ball by the quarterback more than anything. Dropped balls have plagued the Chiefs since Green left. Why? Because these ****ing guys can't throw a ball worth a shit.

Glennon doesn't meet the Parcells QB drafting guide very well does he?

I went through and found some of his best games statistically.

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.The qb position is so important to get right that I favor drafting Geno and using even a second or third round pick on a raw guy with upside. I don't know if Glennon fits that Bill. But the iefs seem convinced that stanzi does not

I think this kid could be the top pick in the draft!

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I see his stock dropping a little. He's probably a top-ten pick, though.

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He's definitely a solid mid first rounder!

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If he's available late in the first round, you might want to pull the trigger.

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He's a kid you could take in the 2nd round, and let him sit on your bench for a year or two.

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He's a career backup. But in the third round, I think he's probably worth taking - hoping he might win a game for you every few years, when your starter is down.

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Let's face it. He's camp fodder.

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That doesnt matter in Kansas City anymore.

So Geno gets knocked for playing shitty teams and not being able to win games by putting his team on his back, but we can't know Glennon for scoring 6 points against Virginia?

lol You're way off base on this. So you're telling me the Packers, Patriots, Saints, and Colts, all in the top 5 in dropped passes are due to the suckage of their quarterbacks?

I'm just saying that the reason Kiper says Glennon to KC so much is because of Pioli, who supposedly goes by the Parcells graph.

The choice is simple for the Chiefs - two names on the list: Geno Smith or Matt Barkley, and maybe Tyler Wilson. The rest do not matter.

DomCasual wins the thread.

Close it mods.

Goddammit Dom, you got me twice in less than 30 minutes!

I ****ing spit energy drink on my keyboard.

He would give you the longest neck on the team since Harvey Williams...

This guys o-line is waaaay better than geno's or wilson's. He wont have that much time in the nfl.

Peyton Manning disapproves of Mike Glennon's neck.

He can put his hat on first try

This thread is comparing Geno to Glennon, not a generational QB, dumbass.

Ok, compare them then. Cause in the Geno thread, he doesn't get compared to other QB's in this class. So why isn't it fair to compare Glennon to them?


Compare Glennon to Geno and explain to me how you can get that Glennon is better.

When did I say Glennon was better than Geno?

All I've said is that Glennon has a lot of tools that NFL GM's covet and could very well be a top 10 pick.

I don't see anyway he goes in the top 10. But QB's are a funny business.


He didn't win games he should have, he didn't have a high completion percentage and he threw INT's. He wasn't accurate down the field either.

Glennon ? :doh!:

Uh, not if I am picking. As much as I dislike Barkley, Glennon is 5th rd material at best.

I thought Pioli was guaranteed gone ... so what's your point?

The biggest reason Glennon is climbing on this board is because "people" are saying Pioli really likes him.

Which doesn't make sense, because he doesnt' meet the standard Parcells list.

Glennon = Foles?

oh dear gawd ... so now Pioli is controlling the draft?

Mr. HewillneverdraftaQB is going after a QB so hard that it's pushing him into the 1st round?

Mr. Coneofsilence has now announced his intentions to the world so a draftee is moving up?


look out behind you ... Pioli is watching you.


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What the hell?


THe biggest reason Glennon is climbing on this board, CP, is because word has been leaked that Pioli really likes him.

I have no clue why he's climbing Kipers board.

I know you are doing all in your power to protect savior Pioli in your eyes, but dude it's getting a little pathetic.

I watched the Clemson vs. NC State game with intentions of watching Glennon since I heard Chiefs scouts were there. Walked away not being sold or unsold by Glennon....my attention was re-directed by Tajh Boyd....who I thought looked pretty solid.

except for what i said doesn't protect Pioli at all


it's about your insanity, not Pioli

My insanity of what?


Is it not well known on this board that Pioli likes Glennon?

Kansas City Chiefs: Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia
This pick largely depends on what happens with Scott Pioli. If he's fired, as the awesome @saveourchiefs movement is pushing for, this selection will be used on a quarterback. There currently is no signal-caller worth taking No. 1 overall, but that could easily change. Remember two years ago when ESPN was mocking Da'Quan Bowers and Nick Fairley to the Panthers? Well, Cam Newton ballooned to the top, as will some other quarterback this year. If not, the Chiefs could always trade down.

If Pioli is retained, he'll pick Luke Joeckel, Manti Te'o or Star Lotulelei and then go for Mike Glennon in the second round. I've heard from a reliable source that Pioli really likes Glennon. Mel Kiper, by the way, stated that Glennon could be the first signal-caller off the board, so maybe the Wolfpack product will be the quarterback who rises to the top of the draft. A lot will change over the next four months.

Link?

Unless Geno, Barkley, and Wilson all die from now til the draft then I don't see how someone leap frogs to the top of the board after the season ends.

O, it has nothing to do with Pioli. That's some crazy crap man.

I watched Glennon in person against Tennessee. When UT's defense was being UT's defense and he had a 30 yard window to throw into he looked great. When it was tighter than that he sucked. His accuracy was horrendous.

Maybe he stood out more cause I was watching Bray zip lasers into tiny little windows 40 yards down field, but Glennon was terrible.

If Clark keeps Pioli, I'm done with his cheap ass. If Pioli selects either of those 3 in the first round over any of the top 3 QB's, than Clark deserves to have a 30k maximum audience at Arrowhead opening day.

For anybody else to go before these 3 come off the board, they will have to of done the following. Looked "great" in the post season as well as shined in the combine workouts.

I see none of this happening.

Coupled with all 3 of Geno, Barkley, and Wilson falling flat on their face.

Glennon is going to be a first round pick. If Ryan Tannehill, Christian Ponder and Jake Locker can be first round picks, so can Mike Glennon.

So basically that means Pioli would try to trade down. If not he would take Glennon at 1 and all of CP will explode in a rage never seen before.

Glennon isn't even close to the prospect Tannehill was.

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Glennon will be a first round pick because QB's are the premium. Blaine Gabbert was taken almost purely based off of his physical tools. Because everything else about him was a negative. Glennon is an inch taller than Gabbert, and has worked under center a lot. I wouldn't even be surprised if he's a top 10 pick. I predict he goes in the 12-18 pick range, but he can raise his stock. It's not hard to do when you're a QB.

^^^This. And I loathed Tannehill.