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Buck 05-09-2012 03:23 PM

NBC cans 30 Rock, Community, and Parks and Rec
 
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertain...e=home_oneline

Fish 05-09-2012 03:25 PM

The ****?

Buck 05-09-2012 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 8605129)
The ****?

Glad you and I are on the same page.

DJ's left nut 05-09-2012 03:29 PM

And yet The Office lives?

No wonder NBC sucks. It's run by idiots.

chiefs1111 05-09-2012 03:35 PM

screw you NBC screw you

Buck 05-09-2012 03:37 PM

NBC is the new CBS. CBS is also still CBS.

inb4 someone tells me the shows on CBS are funny.

Munson 05-09-2012 03:38 PM

30 Rock and Parks & Rec were the only good things about NBC.

007 05-09-2012 03:40 PM

good. less crap to record for my wife now.

Buck 05-09-2012 03:42 PM

It says they'll all get shortened final seasons. I'm guessing 13 for 30 Rock and Parks. Probably 6 for Community.

kcxiv 05-09-2012 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Buck (Post 8605160)
NBC is the new CBS. CBS is also still CBS.

inb4 someone tells me the shows on CBS are funny.

number 1 watched network on TV, they are doing something right.

|Zach| 05-09-2012 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja (Post 8605218)
number 1 watched network on TV, they are doing something right.

They are McDonalds.

keg in kc 05-09-2012 04:07 PM

I watch a handful of dramas on CBS (Hawaii Five-0, NCIS, Person of Interest) but I think their sitcoms are awful. Which doesn't keep millions from watching them.

NBC, on the other hand, always has shows that I like, but can't ever find an audience.

kcxiv 05-09-2012 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zoccer| (Post 8605223)
They are McDonalds.

Thats not a bad thing if your in the business of making money.

Well, i do like a few of their shows, How I met your Mother, well, the first 5 seasons, and Persons of Interest, is actually a bad ass show. ooh and Survivor. thats my CBS shows.

007 05-09-2012 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja (Post 8605218)
number 1 watched network on TV, they are doing something right.

I like the two NCIS shows, Big Bang, Mother and CSI that is it. CSI wasn't in that after Grissom left but this year has been surprisingly good as they got back to what made the show good. Less emo BS.

Bump 05-09-2012 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Munson (Post 8605166)
30 Rock and Parks & Rec were the only good things about NBC.

yeah

what a bunch of idiots. Now there is literally nothing good on network TV. Okay, Jimmy Fallon is ok, but I can't think of anything else.

kcxiv 05-09-2012 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 8605231)
I like the two NCIS shows, Big Bang, Mother and CSI that is it. CSI wasn't in that after Grissom left but this year has been surprisingly good as they got back to what made the show good. Less emo BS.

ooh yeah, big bang, thats a good one for me too.

kcxiv 05-09-2012 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8605143)
And yet The Office lives?

No wonder NBC sucks. It's run by idiots.

So, they are supposed to keep TV shows on that arent profitable? how is that being an idiot? There were shows on TV that i thought were really damned good, but didnt get the ratings. I understand that the old saying of , if it dont make dollars it dont make sense applies here.

Ive learned from shows like Traveler and Journeymen.

|Zach| 05-09-2012 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja (Post 8605229)
Thats not a bad thing if your in the business of making money.

Well, i do like a few of their shows, How I met your Mother, well, the first 5 seasons, and Persons of Interest, is actually a bad ass show. ooh and Survivor. thats my CBS shows.

Yea, thats fine.

Just saying its shit.

|Zach| 05-09-2012 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja (Post 8605234)
ooh yeah, big bang, thats a good one for me too.

Horrible.

007 05-09-2012 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja (Post 8605238)
So, they are supposed to keep TV shows on that arent profitable? how is that being an idiot? There were shows on TV that i thought were really damned good, but didnt get the ratings. I understand that the old saying of , if it dont make dollars it dont make sense applies here.

Ive learned from shows like Traveler and Journeymen.

Outside of Chuck, I have avoided NBC shows like the plague since they have ADD. NBC doesn't stick with anything.

keg in kc 05-09-2012 04:17 PM

There have been a few recent shows outside of the sitcoms. Prime Suspect was good, and Awake is good, but neither of them could draw viewers in that time slot. Chuck was good, and obviously always had viewership problems. Grimm is good, and I think it's actually gotten a second season.

The problem isn't NBC. The problem is people not watching NBC. That's ultimately what determines what stays on the air.

BigMeatballDave 05-09-2012 04:20 PM

P&R is cancelled?

**** you NBC!

007 05-09-2012 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 8605253)
There have been a few recent shows outside of the sitcoms. Prime Suspect was good, and Awake is good, but neither of them could draw viewers in that time slot. Chuck was good, and obviously always had viewership problems. Grimm is good, and I think it's actually gotten a second season.

The problem isn't NBC. The problem is people not watching NBC. That's ultimately what determines what stays on the air.

People aren't watching NBC for a reason so that makes NBC the problem.

Hammock Parties 05-09-2012 04:23 PM

30 rock is one of the dumbest, unfunniest shows i've ever seen.

It's like 30 minutes of the worst SNL shit.

007 05-09-2012 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8605268)
30 rock is one of the dumbest, unfunniest shows i've ever seen.

It's like 30 minutes of the worst SNL shit.

Hell, all the NBC comedies suck ass. I've tried them all and just plain don't enjoy them. Nothing like watching morons run a company. Heh, guess that is how NBC runs theirs.

ABC Wednesday is my comedy night.

Deberg_1990 05-09-2012 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 8605253)
There have been a few recent shows outside of the sitcoms. Prime Suspect was good, and Awake is good, but neither of them could draw viewers in that time slot. Chuck was good, and obviously always had viewership problems. Grimm is good, and I think it's actually gotten a second season.

The problem isn't NBC. The problem is people not watching NBC. That's ultimately what determines what stays on the air.

Im inclined to agree with you. All these sitcoms were well liked by critics and a small loyal audience. Alot of the problem is small viewership for network TV as a whole anymore. The audience is so fractured with so many more TV channels and entertainment options available than years ago. Plus i really question how accurate the antiquated Nielson system is anymore?

BigMeatballDave 05-09-2012 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 8605276)

ABC Wednesday is my comedy night.

Modern Family is awesome.

I love P&R. I'm surprised The Office didn't get the ax.
Its been running on fumes for awhile.

KcMizzou 05-09-2012 04:42 PM

Community was always good, occasionally brilliant. I'll miss it and P&R.

Deberg_1990 05-09-2012 04:43 PM

IM not going to do the research but i would guess the top rated shows on Network TV today only get about half the audience of the top rated shows from 20-30 years ago.

Direckshun 05-09-2012 04:43 PM

Were they getting poor ratings?

I thought 30 Rock and P&R were still churning out great material.

Community was once my favorite show, but it ran out of steam this season -- I think it's past its apex.

Community did, at least, give me one of the best episodes of television I've ever seen:

http://vimeo.com/24954002

Brock 05-09-2012 04:57 PM

Jesus ****. NBC sucks.

kcxiv 05-09-2012 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zoccer| (Post 8605242)
Horrible.

Not for me, and in the end, for me, thats all that matters.

kcxiv 05-09-2012 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8605316)
Were they getting poor ratings?

I thought 30 Rock and P&R were still churning out great material.

Community was once my favorite show, but it ran out of steam this season -- I think it's past its apex.

Community did, at least, give me one of the best episodes of television I've ever seen:

http://vimeo.com/24954002

Almost all NBC shows get bad ratings beside the Voice.

Brock 05-09-2012 05:00 PM

Quote:

NBC did confirm Tuesday that it has picked up a number of new sitcoms, including Matthew Perry's "Go On," Anne Heche's "Save Me," Ryan Murphy's "The New Normal," Bill Pullman's "1600 Penn" and Justin Kirk's "Animal Practice."
LMAO

|Zach| 05-09-2012 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja (Post 8605335)
Not for me, and in the end, for me, thats all that matters.

That pi/pie joke is a reeeeeal knee slapper.

Jamie 05-09-2012 05:29 PM

I sort of get the logic of this. Since the shows will be back next year it blunts the backlash against the cancellation, and if the new shows do worse you can always un-cancel the old ones (at least P&R and Community, I think 30 Rock is done either way).

Also I don't think most people realize how much the ratings for broadcast TV have eroded. The Office is still NBC's highest rated sitcom, and it's getting ratings that aren't really out of line from what shows like Arrested Development and Firefly got when they originally aired.

Predarat 05-09-2012 05:37 PM

Parks and Rec gone? This is ****ing bullshit! NBC is Nothing But ****s.

Jawshco 05-09-2012 05:40 PM

At least they're considering final half seasons for 30 Rock, Community and P&R. I think that 30 Rock is an aquired taste. I find it hilarious. I love how just about every line of dialogue is a joke or an obscure reference. If they give these shows decent finales, then I'll be fine with these cancellations. Better to end strong than to keep going until the material has been stretched too thin. It's a bummer because it does seem like Community and P&R should have been given more time. However, it probably is time to end 30 Rock.

I don't see how the Office doesn't end at the end of this season. With so many of the cast leaving and Dwight getting a spinoff show. They should probably wrap it up now before it gets worse. Any worse than last week's episode would be unwatchable for me.

Reaper16 05-09-2012 05:40 PM

It reflects very poorly on NBC, yes. But honestly? I like it when shows end. Five seasons of any comedy is a whole lot of seasons.

BigMeatballDave 05-09-2012 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 8605436)
It reflects very poorly on NBC, yes. But honestly? I like it when shows end. Five seasons of any comedy is a whole lot of seasons.

Maybe. I know Seinfeld was still great in its final season.

Jawshco 05-09-2012 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 8605436)
It reflects very poorly on NBC, yes. But honestly? I like it when shows end. Five seasons of any comedy is a whole lot of seasons.

I agree. That's usually the right amount of time for most any show.

Jawshco 05-09-2012 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8605444)
Maybe. I know Seinfeld was still great in its final season.

True, but that show is one of the exceptions to the rule I think. I could still go for more Seinfeld. I even thought the Seinfeld season of Curb your Enthusiasm was pretty hysterical.

|Zach| 05-09-2012 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 8605436)
It reflects very poorly on NBC, yes. But honestly? I like it when shows end. Five seasons of any comedy is a whole lot of seasons.

Yea, if Community was straight up canned that would be shitty...letting them run out on the clock with their own story works for me.

Shag 05-09-2012 09:16 PM

Bummer - really going to miss Community. Since that and Chuck will be done, I won't have any shows left on NBC. Network TV is dying.

What's left on NBC after this?

SuperChief 05-09-2012 09:24 PM

I wish they'd do a Ron Swanson spin-off. That would be neat.

Ultra Peanut 05-09-2012 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 8605436)
It reflects very poorly on NBC, yes. But honestly? I like it when shows end. Five seasons of any comedy is a whole lot of seasons.

Same-ish. As long as they have time to make appropriate endings it's easier to accept.

And it's also another chance to shit on NBC for being a horrible network, which is nice.

RIP Three Amazing Television Shows, though.

Dayze 05-09-2012 09:31 PM

way to go NBC....cancel your better shows.

probably making room for more BS reality shows.

Dayze 05-09-2012 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperChief (Post 8606008)
I wish they'd do a Ron Swanson spin-off. That would be neat.

that.

keg in kc 05-09-2012 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 8606026)
probably making room for more BS reality shows.

It's making room for a bunch of new shitcoms that look really, really bad.

Dayze 05-09-2012 10:10 PM

yeah.
the only network shows I watch are Modern Family, New Girl, and Master Chef/Hell's Kitchen.

other than that, everything else I watch is on TNT/AMC/History etc.


I really liked Parks and Rec, and was just getting into the older seasons of 30 Rock. Bummer. I'll still watch the older 30 Rocks though

Pitt Gorilla 05-09-2012 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 8605334)
Jesus ****. NBC sucks.

Yup. I was commenting to a friend just a few days ago that this is the best Thursday night comedy lineup in the past 10 or so years. Of course they pull the plug.

Community, 30 Rock, and P&R are the best comedies on TV.

Setsuna 05-09-2012 10:37 PM

Big bang is terrible. P&R was brilliant. **** NBC. There needs to be a funimation network..it'll outdo all these big business networks in the first week. Anime is where it's at bitches!

Dayze 05-09-2012 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 8606163)
Big bang is terrible. P&R was brilliant. **** NBC. There needs to be a funimation network..it'll outdo all these big business networks in the first week. Anime is where it's at bitches!

1000% agree.

Big Bang is god awful. I gave it a chance.....a few re-run episodes. I don't think I laughed a single time.

Not a fan of the 'laugh track'. aside from Seinfeld, I never care to hear it again.

Micjones 05-10-2012 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 8606026)
way to go NBC....cancel your better shows.

probably making room for more BS reality shows.

Par for the course. Reality shows are cheap to produce.

kc rush 05-10-2012 06:51 AM

I guess I won't spend much time with NBC anymore. Sunday Night Football, The Office (which I could take or leave anymore) and Grimm (which I could also take or leave) are it on their schedule.

Hell there is hardly anything I watch on network TV anymore. There will be football and -

Sunday - Simpsons (I'm a loyalist)
Monday - Nothing
Tuesday - Nothing
Wednesday - ABC comedies
Thursday - The Office
Friday - Grimm
Saturday - Nothing

I know my wife watches some goofball vampire shows that I never watch with her. I'll occasionally half pay attention to Once Upon A Time when she is watching that, or New Girl.

Everything else is baseball (right now), cable programming or whatever I can discover on Netflix.

Deberg_1990 05-10-2012 06:56 AM

Its sort of a vicious circle......everyone complains that there isnt enough quality TV shows produced on network TV, then when there is, not enough people watch to keep them on the air.

Pasta Little Brioni 05-10-2012 08:12 AM

....and they'll be replaced by more garbage.

Predarat 05-10-2012 08:13 AM

I wish they would keep Parks and Rec along with Community but phase the Office out. Especially if Dwight leaves. Though if they are canning Parks and Rec they could bring Ron Swanson to Dunder Mifflin. But the other characters in Parks and Rec are good so I think they are better off keeping it instead of the Office.

Pasta Little Brioni 05-10-2012 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jawshco (Post 8605435)
At least they're considering final half seasons for 30 Rock, Community and P&R. I think that 30 Rock is an aquired taste. I find it hilarious. I love how just about every line of dialogue is a joke or an obscure reference. If they give these shows decent finales, then I'll be fine with these cancellations. Better to end strong than to keep going until the material has been stretched too thin. It's a bummer because it does seem like Community and P&R should have been given more time. However, it probably is time to end 30 Rock.

I don't see how the Office doesn't end at the end of this season. With so many of the cast leaving and Dwight getting a spinoff show. They should probably wrap it up now before it gets worse. Any worse than last week's episode would be unwatchable for me.

JFC :facepalm:

DaKCMan AP 05-10-2012 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zoccer| (Post 8605242)
Horrible.

Your opinion is horrible.

Red Brooklyn 05-10-2012 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jawshco (Post 8605435)
I don't see how the Office doesn't end at the end of this season. With so many of the cast leaving and Dwight getting a spinoff show. They should probably wrap it up now before it gets worse. Any worse than last week's episode would be unwatchable for me.

Who is leaving? James Spader, which has always been the deal. Possibly Dwight and Toby if the spin-off gets picked up. That's three (really just two, and only one of any real significance to the on-screen show).

Who else? I haven't heard.

DaFace 05-10-2012 09:48 AM

So basically, almost every show I watch on NBC. Interesting move.

Deberg_1990 05-10-2012 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 8606613)
So basically, almost every show I watch on NBC. Interesting move.

Its not about quality. Quality shows get sacked all the time.

NBC would run 7 nights of "Ouch My Balls" if they thought it would get them to #1.

Brock 05-10-2012 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Brooklyn (Post 8606610)
Who is leaving? James Spader, which has always been the deal. Possibly Dwight and Toby if the spin-off gets picked up. That's three (really just two, and only one of any real significance to the on-screen show).

Who else? I haven't heard.

Mindy Kaling is leaving.

siberian khatru 05-10-2012 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 8606613)
So basically, almost every show I watch on NBC. Interesting move.

Yeah, it's a bloodbath for me, too.

Pitt Gorilla 05-10-2012 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 8606651)
Mindy Kaling is leaving.

Any idea why? She was one of the primary writers, IIRC.

Brock 05-10-2012 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 8606671)
Any idea why? She was one of the primary writers, IIRC.

Got a show on Fox.

BigMeatballDave 05-10-2012 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 8606651)
Mindy Kaling is leaving.

I hadnt heard. She does a lot of writing for it. They should wrap that show up next season.

Bump 05-10-2012 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperChief (Post 8606008)
I wish they'd do a Ron Swanson spin-off. That would be neat.

was just about to post that. I'm down for a Ron Swanson spin off, the writing would have to be good and it couldn't be too much. But he's just too awesome of a character to let die.

mr. tegu 05-10-2012 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kc rush (Post 8606414)
I guess I won't spend much time with NBC anymore. Sunday Night Football, The Office (which I could take or leave anymore) and Grimm (which I could also take or leave) are it on their schedule.

Hell there is hardly anything I watch on network TV anymore. There will be football and -

Sunday - Simpsons (I'm a loyalist)Monday - Nothing
Tuesday - Nothing
Wednesday - ABC comedies
Thursday - The Office
Friday - Grimm
Saturday - Nothing

I know my wife watches some goofball vampire shows that I never watch with her. I'll occasionally half pay attention to Once Upon A Time when she is watching that, or New Girl.

Everything else is baseball (right now), cable programming or whatever I can discover on Netflix.

I have actually found that The Simpsons have made it back to their better days in the past few seasons. For a while it, say for 3-5 years prior to these past few years, was getting pretty bad, mostly because every episode would introduce a new character that was essential to the story. But now they have reverted back to stories utilizing the characters we all know and love who are always present.

The Simpsons community is so large that there are endless opportunities with already established characters that will always be there instead of one time cameos or outside characters.

RealSNR 05-10-2012 11:13 AM

As much as I adore Community, it's really a show that just doesn't get ratings. Most of its viewers prefer to watch it on Hulu on their own time.

Which is smart, but that's how a show doesn't get ratings. And that's how brilliant television gets cancelled to make room for The Voice: Miami

RealSNR 05-10-2012 11:14 AM

At least there's still Archer.

gblowfish 05-10-2012 11:19 AM

It'll all be replaced with dirt cheap reality TV crap.

gblowfish 05-10-2012 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 8606630)
Its not about quality. Quality shows get sacked all the time.

NBC would run 7 nights of "Ouch My Balls" if they thought it would get them to #1.

This is actually a wonderfully insightful programming recommendation. "Ow My Balls" is one of my favorite reality shows!

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/r_4jrMwvZ2A" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Red Brooklyn 05-10-2012 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 8606651)
Mindy Kaling is leaving.

For sure? Or only if her pilot gets picked up?

Demonpenz 05-10-2012 12:25 PM

Ron Swanson spinoff show would be nice.

Brock 05-10-2012 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Brooklyn (Post 8606912)
For sure? Or only if her pilot gets picked up?

Pretty sure it's a done deal.

whoman69 05-10-2012 01:29 PM

NBC...hmm...NBC...no can't seem to place it. Oh I remember, way back when...

Red Brooklyn 05-10-2012 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 8606960)
Pretty sure it's a done deal.

Yeah, it is. Hadn't heard the pilot was picked up.

I agree that The Office should probably wrap up next season. It's been on long enough. But if they do decide to keep it going, I think Rainn Wilson's exit is the only one that would really do much damage. Toby and Kelly probably wouldn't be missed on screen. Though, Kaling will sorely be missed in the writer's room.

Bummer that she's out in that capacity.

The Rick 05-10-2012 02:39 PM

The television industry in general needs to get with the times. With DVRs, Netflix, Hulu, iTunes, etc. I don't see how "ratings" as we know them today could possibly be a solid indicator of a show's success. :shake:


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