Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9565821)

Yes, he will. He is going to be playing the same role as you saw in Weis' offense. I can guarantee he'll get looks at RB, as a motion option in the backfield, or as a slot receiver. He has not been bad, by the way, as a running back other than fumble issues. He has been terrible as a receiver and returner (and as I've said... if he doesn't develop as a receiver, I don't think there's any use for him).

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9565802)

Poorly executed defense in those videos.

McCluster did absolutely jack to support your stupid ****ing arguments.

Originally Posted by Wonton Prejudice (Post 9565824)

As a RB he was useless, too. A RB who can't forced missed tackles is useless.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9565831)

JFC. When he was primarily a RB in 2011, he had a 4.5 per carry average on 114 rushes. Which is not bad given that he's a small guy going against defenses that had no respect for the passing game.

It isn't great. Claiming he was useless as a RB is just typical baseless hate.

Originally Posted by Wonton Prejudice (Post 9565830)

McCluster would have scored on that play if he was fast.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9565826)

There is no way you can watch the HB screen and make the phooey argument people are making in this thread that he is not fast and that he doesn't have any kind of cut moves. It was a nice run, regardless of the defense, and most importantly it's a move where he ran at full speed with defenders spaced out.

It supports my argument because I'm talking about flashes, I'm not talking about this being some proof that he's good.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9565779)

Dexter McCluster's upside is operating in space. He is too small to play in traffic. I was most intrigued with how he played with Orton. Orton, unlike Cassel, spread the field out and knew how to find secondary options and hit them in stride. Cassel didn't do those things.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-fantas...ter-49-yd-pass
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-h...s-the-end-zone
The biggest thing to note in those videos is how much more spread out the field looks because Orton actually forced defenses to honor the pass.

He actually hasn't been bad at RB, other than not holding on to the ball. He's been a disaster as a receiver and returner, and some of that could be because of comfort level. I want to see him coached as a receiver (not a RB, like Haley did in 2011), I want an offense that spreads the defense out, and I want a QB who can at least find the second option and hit him in stride. So no, I don't agree that we've necessarily seen exactly who he is. But yeah, this is his absolute last chance to prove it.

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 9565842)

Any running back on an NFL roster should have been able to do what McCluster did on the TD run there. That was a simple one-cut run in which the defense did a TERRIBLE job of contain on the outside (at all levels).

Screen pass is a decent play.

Those flashes don't do anything to dispel the facts:

McCluster is too short and not fast enough to be a consistent threat out of the backfield or (Especially) as a WR.

Originally Posted by Wonton Prejudice (Post 9565884)

It's a screen pass.

McCluster is a WR.

He's not going to be running screen passes.

That play goes to Charles next season.

NOW SHUT THE **** UP

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9565875)

In mid-run, he splits the defenders which doesn't happen if he's not moving really fast. He is trailed by Tyvon Branch (he runs a 4.26 40) and completely outruns him. He is finally tracked down by Matt Giordano who had a good angle on McCluster.

This was a very fast run, even if it was a nice blocking play and a pure defensive play. He flat-out outruns several very fast Oakland secondary defenders. That's what I'm talking about with flashing. And I seriously can't believe people would use this clip to suggest it was not a fast run.

So the idea that he's not fast enough is total bullshit. I agree that him being short limits him, and that he hasn't been nearly consistent enough (flashes aren't good enough).