This draft set up like shit to address my major needs. Ugh-ly.

Superior Yetis 2023 Draft
 

Forgot to post this before my hiatus...

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I came into this with picks 1-31, 2-63, 3-95, 3-100, 4-134, 5-166, 6-209, 6-217, 7-249, and 7-250.

I am executing a trade up, sending 1-31 (190 pts) and 2-63 (82 pts) with a net of 231.2 pts to the Dallas Cowboys for 1-26 (223 pts) and 5-169 (8 pts) for a net of 231 pts.

I am declining the Chiefs' trade of 3-95 and 6-217 to the Cincinnati Bengals for 3-92

My draft is as follows:

1-26 DT Mazi Smith, Michigan 6'3" 323 (#1-26 by DAL)
One of my major needs coming into this was strengthing my DT spot because I have little depth or long-term viability at the position. Smith is an anchor of a NT that's difficult to move off his spot and should improve as a pass rusher with his burst.

3-95 CB Kelee Ringo, Georgia 6'2" 207 (#4-105 by PHI)
I don't have a tremendous need at CB but I felt like Ringo was a tremendous value here. He has 1st round talent but lacks the overall character to support it. I'm taking a shot that he realizes he's no longer an entitled 5-star recruit and takes to coaching more because he has the opportunity to be a starter as soon as next season.

3-100 OT Carter Warren, Pittsburgh 6'5" 311 (#4-120 by NYJ)
Another need has been solidifying the RT spot. While I might be fine with Raimann and Taylor now, I still want to try to get ahead of the game here with a more solid reserve situation at minimum. I feel like Warren has the opportunity to be a really good player and could even surprise as a starting LT in time.

4-134 DE K.J. Henry, Clemson 6'4" 251 (#5-137 by WAS)
It seems like I take a pass rusher every year in an attempt to approve my depth and so here I am again. I really like the burst Henry shows off the line and he has some decent bend. He'll need to gain some strength and mass and also get a heavy dose of technique work but he's headed into a situation where he doesn't need to be a dude immediately.

5-166 RB Eric Gray, Oklahoma 5'9" 207 (#5-172 by NYG)
Gray reminds me of when I took Aaron Jones in this round 6 years ago. He's a good one-cut runner with a really good burst and solid change of direction to go with solid long-speed. He's also a really solid receiver out the backfield and blocks pretty well as a 3rd-down back.

5-169 WR A.T. Perry, Wake Forest 6'4" 198 (#6-195 by NO)
I'm going to take a shot on living with the drops here because I think Perry has all the tools to be a superstar WR in the NFL. He has a shot to be a major contributor right out the gate and take over for a starter in year two if he can prove to be reliable. Yes please to a 1st-round caliber talent outside of the drops this late.

6-209 DT Dante Stills, West Virginia 6'3" 285 (#6-213 by ARZ)
I really like Stills' ability to get after the QB and be at least a rotational player that could put up some numbers in that regard. He probably fits best as a 3-4 5T and I have the horses now to be flexible in any front.

6-217 FS Anthony Johnson Jr., Iowa State 6'0" 205 (#7-242 by GB)
I don't have a huge need at safety but upgrading my 5th guy is something I'm willing to take a shot in here with a guy that I feel like was an enormous steal. He has corner experience and can cover plus he's a really physical tackler and player. He has solid speed for an NFL safety prospect. Once he gets his angles down pat, I think he'll be a starter sooner than later.

7-249 DT Desjuan Johnson, Toledo 6'2" 285 (#7-259 by LAR)
Johnson is very much like Stills, showing the ability to get quite a bit of pressure on the QB. If I've done anything this draft late, it's to stock the room with guys that can go get it and maybe develop into more, especially as 3-4 ends.

7-250 DT Jerrod Clark, Coastal Carolina 6'4" 334 (UDFA by LAC)
Clark is a stab at a reserve NT for me. I think he was more than a draftable prospect so falling to UDFA status has me perplexed. I've made it my mission to at least try a Veach-style restock and I'm doing so on my DL where I've had far too many misses recently with guys like Blacklock and Nixon being turds.



I'll accept all UDFAs KC signs for my training camp roster.

The roster at this point:

QB Patrick Mahomes II D1-10/17 (KC)
QB Blaine Gabbert KC FA/23

RB Aaron Jones D5-180/17 (GB)
RB Tyler Allgeier D4-135/22 (ATL)
RB Eric Gray D5-166/23 (NYG)
RB Jerick McKinnon KC FA/23
RB Deneric Prince KC UDFA/23

TE Travis Kelce
TE Cade Otton D3-103/22 (TB)
TE Noah Gray D5-162/21 (KC)
TE Tyrick James KC UDFA/23
TE Jamal Turner KC UDFA/23

WR Donovan Peoples-Jones D5-177/20 (CLE)
WR Marquez Valdes-Scantling KC FA/22
WR Tyler Boyd D2-37/16 (CIN)
WR Gabriel Davis D4-125/20 (BUF)
WR Justyn Ross D7-251/22 (KC)
WR Richie James KC FA/23
WR A.T. Perry D5-169/23 (NO)
WR Sean Coyne KC UDFA/23
WR Ty Scott KC UDFA/23
WR Nikko Remigio KC UDFA/23
WR James Letcher Jr KC UDFA/23
WR Zane Pope KC UDFA/23

LT Bernhard Raimann D2-62/22 (IND)
LG Joe Thuney KC FA/21
OC Erik McCoy D2-48/19 (NO)
RG Trey Smith D6-221/21 (KC)
RT Jawaan Taylor KC FA/23
OT Carter Warren D3-100/23 (NYJ)
OT Donovan Smith KC FA/23
OT Josh Ball D4-136/21 (DAL)
OT Rasheed Walker D7-233/22 (GB)
OG Teven Jenkins D1-31/21 (CHI)
OC Bradley Bozeman D6-198/18 (CAR)
OC Connor McGovern D4-126/16 (NYJ)
OL Jerome Carvin KC UDFA/23
OL Anderson Harvy KC UDFA/23
OL Blake Haynes KC UDFA/23

DL Justin Madubuike D2-64/20 (BAL)
DL Mazi Smith D1-31/23 (DAL)
DL Zach Sieler D7-219/18 (MIA)
DL Charles Omenihu KC FA/23
DL Ross Blacklock D1-32/20 (MIN)
DL Daviyon Nixon D4-144/21 (CAR)
DL Dante Stills D6-209/23 (ARZ)
DL Desjuan Johnson D7-249/23 (LAR)
DL Jerrod Clark D7-250/23 (LAC)
DL Byron Cowart KC FA/23
DL Tershawn Wharton KC FA/20

ER Matt Judon D4-129/16 (NE)
ER George Karlaftis D1-30/22 (KC)
ER K.J. Henry D4-134/23 (WAS)
ER Ogbonnia Okoronkwo D5-159/18 (CLE)
ER Jeffrey Gunter D7-243/22 (CIN)
ER Truman Jones KC UDFA/23

LB Cole Holcomb D5-167/19 (PIT)
LB Logan Wilson D2-63/20 (CIN)
LB Drue Tranquill KC FA/23
LB Leo Chenal D3-94/22 (KC)
LB Isaiah McDuffie D6-208/21 (GB)
LB Cam Jones KC UDFA/23
LB Isaiah Moore KC UDFA/23

CB L'Jarius Sneed D4-138/20 (KC)
CB Paulson Adebo D2-63/21 (NO)
CB Byron Murphy D1-29/19 (MIN)
CB Kelee Ringo D3-95/23 (PHI)
CB Christian Benford D5-173/22 (BUF)
CB Nazeeh Johnson D7-259/22 (KC)
CB Alonzo Davis KC UDFA/23
CB Anthony Witherstone KC UDFA/23
CB Reese Taylor KC UDFA/23

DB Jessie Bates III D2-52/18 (ATL)
DB Justin Reid KC FA/22
DB Amani Hooker D4-116/19 (TEN)
DB Mike Edwards KC FA/23
DB Anthony Johnson Jr. D6-217/23 (GB)
DB Tarvarius Moore D3-86/18 (GB)
DB Martez Manuel KC UDFA/23
DB Anthony Cook KC UDFA/23
DB Isaiah Norman KC UDFA/23

SK Harrison Butker KC FA/17
SP Tommy Townsend KC FA/20
LS James Winchester
SP Jake Gerardi KC UDFA/23

Working on mine.

I know what I want to do prospect wise, but can't make the bloody trades work without breaking the rules. I know there's a way, I just need keep digging to find it.

Well, after more hours spent than I care to admit the last two nights trying to find a trade combo that would get me everything I want… I just couldn’t find a way to make it work with the two trade limit and 35% discount. However, I got pretty damn close. I really wanted one more pick. What I would have done if I had been able to translate some of my wasted points into another pick…

If before 114 - Chandler Zavala, OG, NC State
If 114-123 - Cameron Young, DT, Miss. State
If 124-190 - Luke Wuppertal, OC, Ohio State

Alright, without further ado…

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Tacoma Trash Panda original 2023 Draft Picks:

1-31
2-63
3-95
3-100
4-122
4-134
5-166
6-178
6-209
6-217
7-249
7-250

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BLOCKBUSTER TRADE!!!!!

TTP sends: #95 (40 points), #100 (34 points), 134 (17 points), 217 (3 points), 249 (1 point), and 250 (1 point)

TTP outgoing picks total = 84 points (98 points x 15% discount)

TTP receives from the Colts: #79 (57 points), #138 (16 points), #162 (9 points), and #236 (2 points)

TTP incoming picks total = 84 points

Note: all picks held by Colts prior to the draft

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Tacoma Trash Panda FINAL 2023 Draft Picks:

1-31
2-63
3-79
4-122
4-138
5-162
5-166
6-178
6-209
6-236

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As stated previously, I am emphasizing diversification of my roster from KC. As a result, I made the commitment to not select any players that the Chiefs also drafted.

A key focus for me this year was infusing new talent into my defense. I do have a few holes on offense, but Im going to trust Patrick Mahomes to cope with the deficiencies for another year.

Tacoma Trash Panda 2023 Draft Selections:

1-31: Joey Porter Jr., CB, Penn State (Steelers @ #32)
Considering that I’m currently starting Fenton and Mike Hughes at CB, I desperately need some help. Porter couldn’t have asked for a better landing spot in Pittsburgh that will allow him to develop into an elite corner.

2-63: Drew Sanders, ILB, Arkansas (Broncos @ #67)
Drew is a versatile linebacker who is poised to take over sooner rather than later in Denver. Although not as high of a ceiling as some of his other round 1-3 ILB counter parts, Drew offers a high floor which the Trash Pandas desperately need.

3-79: Ji’Ayir Brown, S, Penn State (49ers @ #87)
Brown is able to play either safety position and brings a skill set that will allow him to flourish in the NFL. My trade up was predicated specifically on getting Brown. He will also be a starter in San Francisco sooner rather than later.

4-122: Isaiah McGuire, DE, Missouri (Browns @ #126)
A developmental edge. McGuire has solid bend and is serviceable against the run. Extremely excited to add him as a mid round prospect.

4-138: Darius Rush, CB, South Carolina (Colts @ #138)
More CB help. ‘Nuff said.

5-162: Chase Brown, RB, Illinois (Bengals @ #163)
I like Brown. I like Joe Mixon’s legal troubles even more. Brown will give me RB depth in the event that Breece Hall is slow to return and/or CEH is cut.

6-166: Trey Palmer, WR, Nebraska (Buccaneers @ #191)
Great under rated talent that I expect to flourish. Taking a shot at a day 3 steal.

6-178: AT Perry, WR, Wake Forest (Saints @ #195)
Crow, who also took Perry, summarized the value add best. Perry went almost 100 picks later than I expected, I’m happy to take a shot this late.

6-209: Dante Stills, DT, West Virginia (Cardinals @ #213)
Absolute mountain in the middle and poised to see early playing time in Arizona.

6-236: Corey Trice, CB, Purdue (Steelers @ #241)
More corner help, ‘nuff said.

Okay, so we'll adjust the rules to this:

1. If you accepted a trade for a player or drafted a player, you can keep that player even if he walks from his team in free agency.

2. You lose anyone who gets cut from the Chiefs if they're on your roster.

Rule 1 takes precedence over Rule 2. (Example: I drafted Brandon Williams as a Raven, so even when he became a Chief I could keep him if he gets cut.)

Okay, my initial available picks are as follows:

1-31
2-63
3-95
3-100. I will trade this pick for Kardarius Toney.
4-122. I don't have this pick since I never had Tyreek.
4-134.
5-166.
6-178. I don't have this pick since I never had Tyreek.
6-209. I will trade this pick for Kadarius Toney.
6-217. (Comp)
7-249.
7-250. (Comp)

Regarding the Chiefs' draft day trades:

I cannot trade picks No. 63, 122, and 249 to the Lions, receiving picks No. 55 and No. 194 in return, because I don't have the 122 pick.

I cannot trade the #178 pick to Dallas for their 2024 5th round pick since I don't have the #178

I'm pondering whether to trade Pick 95 and 217 for Pick #92. I'll decide as I make my draft decisions.

I present to you my 2023 draft.

1 – 31. CB Joey Porter (Steelers). I need to add some cornerback strength, and even though it’s not my most pressing need, Porter seems like good value here. He’ll turn my declining CB situation back into a strength.

Also considered: DE Felix Anudike-Uzomah, QB Will Levis, trade down for DT Keeanu Benton

2-63. DT Zacch Pickens (Bears). I’m desperate for defensive tackles and he falls perfectly to my spot in the draft.

Also considered: Didn’t strongly consider anyone else. Kicked the tires on QB Hendon Hooker and DT Byron Young.

3-95 – DT Adetomiwa Adebawore (Colts) Again, DT is a major need for us, and he’s an athlete, even if a bit undersized. There are several viable DT prospects, but we think he’s the best bet. Strongly considered Wooden here for the LB need, too.

Also considered: LB Colby Wooden, DT Siaki Ika, DT Brodric Martin, QB Jake Haener

3-100. Traded for WR Kardarius Toney.

4-134. QB Aidan O’Connell (Raiders). I really wanted to draft Mike Morris here, but I have no depth at QB and figured I should draft a developmental guy with potential.

Also considered: DE Mike Morris, LB Noah Sewell

5-166. ILB Henry To’oTo’o (Texans). Lots of choices here, but To’oTo’o seemed like the top talent and he fills a need. This was an easy choice despite liking a number of other options. I pondered trading down to add more picks in this range because I like a bunch of guys here.

Also considered: LB Owen Pappoe, S JL Skinner, DT Keondre Coburn, WR AT Perry, WR Xavier Hutchinson, WR Andrei Iosivas, DT Dante Stills, RB Zach Evans

6-209. Traded for Kadarius Toney.

6-217. (Comp) TE Zack Kuntz (Jets). I’m taking a flyer here. I don’t mind having more TE depth, and people were talking him up. I strongly considered McIntosh here.

Also considered: RB DeWayne McBride, DT Nesta Jade Silvera, RB Kenny McIntosh.

7-249. DT Moro Ojomo (Eagles). I’ll continue my emphasis on filling DT roster spots here.

Also considered: None, really. Ojomo filled my needs better than anyone else remaining in the last nine picks. I took a look at Ronnie Bell and Nic Jones.

7-250. (Comp). LB Ivan Pace (undrafted, signed as FA by Vikings). I continue to like Pace even though he dropped completely out of the draft for some reason. I’ll sign him and give him a chance to compete.

Also considered: DT PJ Mustipher, DT Jacob Slade, S Brandon Joseph

I always do my draft before looking at others' drafts. It's interesting that keller and crow both drafted Dante Stills. I liked him and almost traded down my 4th rounder to pick up a late 5th and 6th, which would've been him and one of the 5th rounders I liked. I figured that ethically I needed to get a third QB, though, so I held off.

Pickens and Abedawore are great value - both made my consideration list, but ultimately I couldn't wait any longer for a CB, ILB, and S. I had to get one of each on my first three picks.

Tweaked mine a touch, deciding to go with Carter Warren and Anthony Johnson instead of accepting the Chiefs' trade up.

Cutdowns are going to be difficult this year. Feeling like my roster is pretty damned good.

I'm strongly advocating for another rule change for 2024.

The penalty for a post-draft trade down is changed at least to 25% instead of 35%.

I understand that we should be penalized because we get the benefit of hindsight, but right now we lose the value of a very high 3rd round pick trading down out of the bottom of the 1st (approximately pick #72). That means a trade down from 31 puts us at pick #48. A change to 25% would instead put us at a loss in value of a lower 3rd-round pick (approximately pick #87) and would mean a trade down from 31 puts us at pick #42.

This would at least allow us to trade down to the middle of round 2 (say pick 48) and pick up a 4th with it. This is far more reasonable than the current situation where we'd have to drop from R1 to the bottom of 2 in order to pick up any other pick as compensation for the trade-out.

I'd be more in favor of 20% but that might be pushing my luck.

Under the current format, a trade-down is so out of the realm of reality that it makes it moot.

Meh I'm not for any of that. That's some cockgobbler shit right there ROFLROFL

Only 2 preseason games in... But I'm feeling pretty good about my picks. Drinking the Kool aid, think I've hit on at least 5-6 perennial starters with pro bowl potential.

2023 ROSTER

QB Patrick Mahomes II D1-10/17 (KC)
QB Blaine Gabbert KC FA/23

RB Aaron Jones D5-180/17 (GB)
RB Tyler Allgeier D4-135/22 (ATL)
RB Eric Gray D5-166/23 (NYG)
RB Jerick McKinnon KC FA/23

TE Travis Kelce
TE Cade Otton D3-103/22 (TB)
TE Noah Gray D5-162/21 (KC)

WR Donovan Peoples-Jones D5-177/20 (CLE)
WR Marquez Valdes-Scantling KC FA/22
WR Tyler Boyd D2-37/16 (CIN)
WR Gabriel Davis D4-125/20 (BUF)
WR Justyn Ross D7-251/22 (KC)
WR Richie James KC FA/23
WR A.T. Perry D5-169/23 (NO)

LT Bernhard Raimann D2-62/22 (IND)
LG Joe Thuney KC FA/21
OC Erik McCoy D2-48/19 (NO)
RG Trey Smith D6-221/21 (KC)
RT Jawaan Taylor KC FA/23
OT Carter Warren D3-100/23 (NYJ)
OT Donovan Smith KC FA/23
OT Rasheed Walker D7-233/22 (GB)
OG Teven Jenkins D1-31/21 (CHI)
OC Bradley Bozeman D6-198/18 (CAR)

DL Justin Madubuike D2-64/20 (BAL)
DL Mazi Smith D1-31/23 (DAL)
DL Zach Sieler D7-219/18 (MIA)
DL Dante Stills D6-209/23 (ARZ)
DL Desjuan Johnson D7-249/23 (LAR)

ER Matt Judon D4-129/16 (NE)
ER George Karlaftis D1-30/22 (KC)
ER K.J. Henry D4-134/23 (WAS)
ER Ogbonnia Okoronkwo D5-159/18 (CLE)
ER Charles Omenihu KC FA/23

LB Cole Holcomb D5-167/19 (PIT)
LB Logan Wilson D2-63/20 (CIN)
LB Drue Tranquill KC FA/23
LB Leo Chenal D3-94/22 (KC)
LB Isaiah McDuffie D6-208/21 (GB)

CB L'Jarius Sneed D4-138/20 (KC)
CB Paulson Adebo D2-63/21 (NO)
CB Byron Murphy D1-29/19 (MIN)
CB Kelee Ringo D3-95/23 (PHI)
CB Christian Benford D5-173/22 (BUF)

DB Jessie Bates III D2-52/18 (ATL)
DB Justin Reid KC FA/22
DB Amani Hooker D4-116/19 (TEN)
DB Anthony Johnson Jr. D6-217/23 (GB)

SK Harrison Butker KC FA/17
SP Tommy Townsend KC FA/20
LS James Winchester

I can see lowering it to 25 percent. It's hard to make trade downs, and I think in part that's because we no longer have high picks in each round LMAO

Okay, here's my final roster for 2023:



QB
Russell Wilson (Broncos)
Blaine Gabbert
Aidan O'Connell (Raiders)

Cuts: Sam Ehlinger (Colts) and Carson Strong

We'll see if Russell bounces back. Behind him we've got a wily veteran and our latest rookie project. We'll write off a couple of mid/late picks on Ehlinger and Strong. This area is a concern.

RB/FB
Isaih Pacheco
Alvin Kamara (Saints)
Rashaad Penny (Eagles)

Cuts: Ronald Jones II, Michael Burton


Pacheco has taken the starting job. Kamara is suspended for a few games, and Penny is good but always hurt. We're cutting Jones and Burton just because we need the roster space at other positions. I think we should be good here.

WR
Kardarius Toney
Marquez Valdez-Scantling
Donovan Peoples-Jones, WR (Browns)
Richie James
Khalil Shakir (Bills)
Terrace Marshall (Panthers)
Justin Watson

Cuts: James Washington (Steelers), Juju Smith-Schuster


We suddenly have a lot of depth here. Toney and MVS will start, and we have a ton of depth. Marshall has been a bit of a disappointment. James Washington has been a huge disappointment as a former 2nd round pick, and we're cutting bait on him. Juju is leaving in free agency. We're actually looking pretty decent here with three starters and good depth.

TE
Travis Kelce (Chiefs)
Grant Calcaterra
Zach Kuntz (Jets)
Cuts: Blake Bell


I hate to cut Bell, but he's dropped to third on the depth chart. So I'll keep two young guys behind Travis Kelce. We're great at this position, obviously, and bringing up new talent.

OT
Orlando Brown, Jr.
Jawaan Taylor
Morgan Moses (Redskins)
Donovan Smith

Cuts: Lucas Niang, G/T and Geron Christian


We're in great shape here with two sets of solid starting tackes. Niang and Christian couldn't hang on the roster, so they're gone.

G
Joe Thuney
Wyatt Teller (Browns)
Trey Smith

This is the strongest unit on the team. We're very strong here.

C
Cody Whitehair (Bears )

Very solid here.

K/P/ST
K - Harrison Butker
P - Tommy Townsend
LS - James Winchester

Best dang unit in the league.

S
Jordan Poyer (Bills)
Andre Cisco (Jaguars)
Justin Reid
Coby Bryant (Seahawks)

Cuts: Mike Edwards and Deon Bush


Poyer is my silverback on the team. I've got a nice mix of veterans and young guys. I hated cutting Edwards and Bush, but it was a numbers game. I think we're strong and deep here.

CB
Marcus Peters (Raiders)
Joey Porter, Jr.
Desmond King (Steelers)
Amik Robertson (Raiders)
Shaun Wade (Patriots)

Cuts: Darius Rush


This is an area of concern. Peters had his worst year and was also coming off an ACL injury. Porter is a rookie. King and Robertson are small nickel/dime corners. And Wade keeps bouncing around at the bottom of depth charts. They have potential, but I need to see it in action.

OLB
Leo Chenal
Zach Baun, LB (Saints)
Ivan Pace (Vikings)
Drue Tranquill
Yetur Gross-Matos, DE (Panthers)
Anthony Nelson
Cuts: Cam Jones and Elijah Lee


We're not an established group here, but we have the potential to be strong. Chenal is a starter and Baun finally won a starting job. Pace is pushing for time, and Tranquill is very good. Gross-Matos is more of a DE than an OLB, and Nelson is similarly a situational pass rush guy. I hated cutting Cam Jones, but had no choice. Lee is pretty much out of the league now. This group is going to be watched closely.

ILB
Nakobe Dean
Henry To'oTo'o (Texans)

Cuts: Olakunle Fatukasi and Cameron McGrone (Colts)


We'll see how this group does as well. Dean grabbed a starting job after being on the bench last season, and To'oTo'o is a rookie. We're unproven.

DE
George Karlaftis
Dorance Armstrong
Charles Omenihu

Cuts: Ifeadi Odenigbo (Jets) and Carlos Dunlap


We have two legitimate starters and not much else. Omenihu is suspended, and won't be back for six weeks. Ifeadi is on IR and Dunlap's career is winding down, so they didn't make the team.


DT
Andrew Billings (Bears)
Tershawn Wharton
Zacch Pickens (Bears)
Adetomiwa Adebawore (Colts)
Moro Ojomo (Eagles)
Kalia Davis
Cuts: Neil Farrell (we declined the trade) and Marvin Wilson (Browns)


We gave this position of a full injection of youth by adding three rookies in the draft. None of them has seized a starting job yet, but maybe in the future. Davis is another young guy, but is barely making the team due to some good depth.

Here's hoping that someone steps up. Otherwise we're young but mediocre. I need to see progress here.

Great to see you Crow!

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Tacoma Trash Pandas 2023 Roster


QB:
Patrick Mahomes (Chiefs)
Blaine Gabbert (Chiefs*)

RB:
Breece Hall (Jets)
Chase Brown (Bengals)
Kenneth Gainwell (Eagles)
Clyde Edwards-Helaire (Chiefs)

FB:


WR:
Skyy Moore (Chiefs - Drafted)
Marquez Valdes-Scantling (Chiefs*)
Justyn Ross (Chiefs - Drafted)
Justin Watson (Chiefs*)
Richie James (Chiefs*)
Trey Palmer (Buccaneers)
AT Perry (Saints)

TE:
Travis Kelce (Chiefs)
Jody Fortson (Chiefs)

OT:
Orlando Brown Jr. (Bengals - Trade Executed)
Jawaan Taylor (Chiefs*)
Lucas Niang (Chiefs)
Rasheed Walker (Packers)

OG:
Joe Thuney (Chiefs)
Trey Smith (Chiefs - Drafted)

OC:
Creed Humphrey (Chiefs - Drafted)
Nick Allegretti (Chiefs)

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DT:
Chris Jones (Chiefs)
Khyris Tonga (Vikings)
Eric Johnson (Colts)
Derrick Nnadi (Chiefs)
Dante Stills (Cardinals)
Tershawn Wharton (Chiefs)

DE:
Carlos Basham Jr. (Bills)
George Karlaftis (Chiefs - Drafted)
Charles Omenihu (Chiefs*)
Isaiah McGuire (Browns)
Mike Danna (Chiefs)

OLB:
Willie Gay Jr. (Chiefs)
Drue Tranquill (Chiefs*)
Leo Chanel (Chiefs - Drafted)

ILB:
Nakobe Dean (Eagles)
Drew Sanders (Broncos)
Isaiah McDuffie (Packers)

CB:
L’Jarius Sneed (Chiefs)
Joey Porter Jr. (Steelers)
Darius Rush (Chiefs - Drafted)
Corey Trice (Steelers)
Mike Hughes (Falcons - Trade Executed)
Tariq Castro-Fields (Commanders)

FS:
Mike Edwards (Chiefs*)
Nick Cross (Colts)

SS:
Justin Reid (Chiefs*)
Ji’Ayir Brown (49ers)

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P:
Tommy Townsend (Chiefs)

K:
Harrison Butker (Chiefs)

LS:
James Winchester (Chiefs)

I think I better start scouting the WRs haha. Wow does my group suck ass this year. The rest of the roster looks relatively stacked though.

WR looking pretty rough for us all across the board. As a generalization, my entire team looks rough across the board!

I have a lot of WR depth. I have seven legitimate #4 or #5 WRs. The only thing I'm missing is a #1, #2, and #3 WR.

We have signs of life from AT Perry with 2/38 and a TD this week :D

As a midseason check-in, my draft class is looking pretty successful right now.

Rookie starters:

7-250. LB Ivan Pace (Vikings). Has grabbed a starting job and is looking good.

5-166. ILB Henry To’oTo’o (Texans). Technically a backup, but he's started half the games and is playing well for the Texans

4-134. QB Aidan O’Connell (Raiders). He seems to be improving each week and is a rare mid-round QB starter.

Active backups

1 – 31. CB Joey Porter (Steelers). I'm a little disappointed that he didn't grab a Day One starter role, but he's started about half the games and is getting a lot of game-day action. I'll look for upward mobility here.

3-100 and 6-209. Traded for WR Kardarius Toney. I was hoping for more here, but he occasionally flashes, and I'm sure he'll have a good Super Bowl again.

Little-used backups

2-63. DT Zacch Pickens (Bears). Not sure what happened here. He's gotten very little action and apparently hasn't been impressive.

3-95. DT Adetomiwa Adebawore (Colts). Also disappointing. Has barely played at all and for some reason they list him at nose tackle even though he's nowhere close to 300 pounds.

Developmental guys.

6-217. TE Zack Kuntz (Jets). I wasn't expecting to see him get any action this year. He's a future play.

7-249. DT Moro Ojomo (Eagles). See the Kuntz description above.



So basically I had a good LB and QB draft and a bad DT draft. But regardless, getting four guys who are getting lots of rookie snaps is a win for me.

Very nice! I'm gonna have to go back and remember who I picked this past year. Was kind of a blur.

Overall, not an immediate high-return draft but there are signs of life, and it's brimming with potential. I wasn't drafting too much for need, and more about the long game in this one anyhow.

1-26 DT Mazi Smith, Michigan 6'3" 323 (#1-26 by DAL)
Rotational player. Has played solid when he's in and DAL seems to like his progress.

3-95 CB Kelee Ringo, Georgia 6'2" 207 (#4-105 by PHI)
Special teamer. Hasn't been in for anything but special teams. Thought I got a value here but maybe I got a turd.

3-100 OT Carter Warren, Pittsburgh 6'5" 311 (#4-120 by NYJ)
Backup. Spent a good portion of the year on IR/PUP whatever it was, but has been in relief at LT the past couple of weeks and looks pretty damned good

4-134 DE K.J. Henry, Clemson 6'4" 251 (#5-137 by WAS)
Rotational player. Was buried on the depth chart until WAS traded everyone at DE away at the deadline. Has looked like a solid pass rusher the past two weeks. Could be a solid pick in time.

5-166 RB Eric Gray, Oklahoma 5'9" 207 (#5-172 by NYG)
Special teamer. Hasn't had much for opportunities and then was injured for a month. I dunno, but it hasn't looked good.

5-169 WR A.T. Perry, Wake Forest 6'4" 198 (#6-195 by NO)
Starter (due to injuries). Just finally started getting some playing time. Looked okay but has a ways to go. Still have hopes on this one.

6-209 DT Dante Stills, West Virginia 6'3" 285 (#6-213 by ARZ)
Starter. Secured a starting role and has looked pretty good in doing it. 37 tackles and 3.5 sacks so far.

6-217 FS Anthony Johnson Jr., Iowa State 6'0" 205 (#7-242 by GB)
Backup (turning starter?). Looked great in preseason and many thought he'd be GBs starter but lost out. He's finally got playing time, including starts in the past two games. He looked good last week. Might end up a steal.

7-249 DT Desjuan Johnson, Toledo 6'2" 285 (#7-259 by LAR)
Backup. Not too much action but he made the team and got his 1st sack last week.

7-250 DT Jerrod Clark, Coastal Carolina 6'4" 334 (UDFA by LAC)
Cut. I cut Clark as part of the numbers game but he's been on the LA PS.

Silver lining: Feel a lot better about my WR corps than Veach's haha.

Tooting my own horn, but I like my roster a ton right now and feel like this is a better collection of overall talent than I ever imagined. The defense is 100% lights out and set up well for the long haul. That defensive line is a nightmare (in a good way) with Sieler and Madubuike combining for 21 sacks. I was right about Logan Wilson over Willie Gay (sorry, not sorry?). My secondary is tough man... Adebo and Bates are turnover magnets and Sneed is lock down. Hell Murphy gets his hands on alot of balls, just wish he'd stop missing tackles this year. Four deep at safety is nice. Ringo is coming on strong at the end of the year here.

Also starting to really like my offensive line. I threw a lot of darts at the OT position the last couple of years but I think I have a really solid group in Raimann, Walker, and Warren now. Raimann's development so far reminds me of Fisher. Walker is looking really solid as a starter in GB and Warren has had a couple quality appearances at both OT spots in NY.

This team could win a Super Bowl for sure. A quality #1 WR is the lone real hole and maybe a slot to replace an aging Boyd. I'm ready to go toe-to-toe with Veach for executive of the year hahaha.

How did I do this year? Let's take a look.

My overall assessment is that this is probably a 7-10 or 8-9 team. It's generally solid, but we don't have a lot of starpower.

On offense, the offensive line is strong with a good running game, but Kelce is our only legit passing threat. Russell Wilson was passable at QB, but our receivers dramatically underachieved. We had pro bowlers at G and TE.

We have great special teams guys.

On defense, we have several ascending players like Karlaftis, Chenal, and Ivan Pace, and our safeties are strong. Other positions are pretty much staffed by solid journeymen. No one was named to the pro bowl.



QB
Russell Wilson (Broncos)
Aidan O'Connell (Raiders)
Blaine Gabbert


I did well reasonably here. Russell was 8th in the league in passer rating, bouncing back from last year, and O'Connell grabbed playing time to claim the backup spot. Gabbert was ready to play but not needed.


RB/FB
Isaih Pacheco
Alvin Kamara (Saints)
Rashaad Penny (Eagles)

I had a serviceable 1-2 punch with Pacheco and Kamara. Penny rode the bench and has pretty much ended my patience with him.

WR
Khalil Shakir (Bills)
Justin Watson
Kardarius Toney
Marquez Valdez-Scantling
Donovan Peoples-Jones, WR (Browns)
Terrace Marshall (Panthers)
Richie James


Boy. I figured one or two of these folks would break out, but it never happened. Shakir is my clear #1, but that's not ideal. Watson was my #2. This was a weak spot on the team.

TE
Travis Kelce (Chiefs)
Grant Calcaterra
Zach Kuntz (Jets)

We have a pro bowler! Kelce was great. Calcaterra was a body at least, and Kuntz rode the bench.

Good starters, no depth.

OT
Donovan Smith
Jawaan Taylor
Morgan Moses (Redskins)
Orlando Brown, Jr.


Strong performance here by Smith and Taylor, with solid backups. I'm happy here.

G
Joe Thuney
Wyatt Teller (Browns)
Trey Smith

We have a pro bowler here and two other strong players. The guards were a strength.

C
Cody Whitehair (Bears )

He's been a rock for me for years, but got benched mid-season, opening a crack in our line of steel.

K/P/ST
K - Harrison Butker
P - Tommy Townsend
LS - James Winchester

Best dang unit in the league. No idea how these guys weren't all pro bowlers.

S
Andre Cisco (Jaguars)
Justin Reid
Jordan Poyer (Bills)
Coby Bryant (Seahawks)

I had three solid safeties this year. Bryant had a good first year but was hobbled by an injury most of the year. This unit was reasonably strong, though.

CB
Marcus Peters (Raiders)
Joey Porter, Jr.
Amik Robertson (Raiders)
Shaun Wade (Patriots)
Desmond King (Steelers)

This was a reasonable group of corners, if not spectacular. Probably not a strength of the team.

OLB
Leo Chenal
Ivan Pace (Vikings)
Yetur Gross-Matos, DE (Panthers)
Zach Baun, LB (Saints)
Anthony Nelson
Cuts: Cam Jones and Elijah Lee


Our new guys have stepped up, making this a solid unit. We also had some pass-rushing backups. It's not an all-star group yet, but is ascending.

ILB
Drue Tranquill
Henry To'oTo'o (Texans)
Nakobe Dean


I was expecting Dean to take the starting role, but he got buried on the depth chart despite improvement. To'o To'o played well as a rookie and is part of why we switched to a 3-4, with Drue Tranquill at the other starting job. This is another unit that is not dominant yet, but ascending.

DE
George Karlaftis
Dorance Armstrong
Charles Omenihu

George was dominant at one DE spot. Armstrong and Omenihu split time at the other spot, providing a strong pass rush. This group did well.


DT
Andrew Billings (Bears)
Tershawn Wharton
Zacch Pickens (Bears)
Adetomiwa Adebawore (Colts)
Kalia Davis
Moro Ojomo (Eagles)


We added a lot of youth, but no one immediately stepped up. Billings is an anchor in the middle, so we switched to a 3-4 this year with Billings starting and Wharton backing up. The young guys watched.

My top draft and free agent needs for next year are:

1. WR - I'm desperate.
2. DT - Or I can risk that one of the young guys will step up.
3. C - Whitehair is on his last legs.
4. CB - I'm going to have to find mid-round gold.

Yeah, I have a business and three households to run

QB Patrick Mahomes II D1-10/17 (KC) - 4,183 YDS 27 TD 14 INT
QB Blaine Gabbert KC FA/23 - 185 YDS 0 TD 3 INT

I have MVPat... nuff said

RB Aaron Jones D5-180/17 (GB) - 889 YDS 3 TD
RB Tyler Allgeier D4-135/22 (ATL) - 876 YDS 5 TD
RB Eric Gray D5-166/23 (NYG) - 70 YDS 0 TD
RB Jerick McKinnon KC FA/23 - 252 YDS 5 TD

Solid season from the RBs here but Jones may be starting to show his age with the injuries this year and Allgeier was RB2.

TE Travis Kelce - 985 YDS 5 TD
TE Cade Otton D3-103/22 (TB) - 455 YDS 4 TD
TE Noah Gray D5-162/21 (KC) - 306 YDS 2 TD

Kelce gonna Kelce and the backups were solid but unspectacular. A bit disappointed that Otton didn't take off this year.

WR Donovan Peoples-Jones D5-177/20 (CLE) - 155 YDS 0 TD
WR Marquez Valdes-Scantling KC FA/22 - 315 YDS 1 TD
WR Tyler Boyd D2-37/16 (CIN) - 678 YDS 2 TD
WR Gabriel Davis D4-125/20 (BUF) - 744 YDS 7 TD
WR Justyn Ross D7-251/22 (KC) - 53 YDS 0 TD
WR Richie James KC FA/23 - 114 YDS 0 TD
WR A.T. Perry D5-169/23 (NO) - 246 YDS 4 TD

My WR corps might be as bad as KCs. Davis remains a solid #2/deep threat though and Perry gave me signs of life late in the year.

LT Bernhard Raimann D2-62/22 (IND) - 15 GS 4 SA PFF 82.3
LG Joe Thuney KC FA/21 - 17 GS 2 SA PFF 74.9 PB AP1
OC Erik McCoy D2-48/19 (NO) - 17 GS 4 SA PFF 79.4 PB
RG Trey Smith D6-221/21 (KC) - 17 GS 2 SA PFF 72.2
RT Jawaan Taylor KC FA/23 - 17 GS 5 SA PFF 52.0
OT Carter Warren D3-100/23 (NYJ) - 5 GS 5 SA PFF 46.9
OT Donovan Smith KC FA/23 - 12 GS 2 SA PFF 55.4
OT Rasheed Walker D7-233/22 (GB) - 15 GS 6 SA PFF 66.4
OG Teven Jenkins D1-31/21 (CHI) - 11 GS 3 SA PFF 73.4
OC Bradley Bozeman D6-198/18 (CAR) - 17 GS 8 SA PFF 62.2

When Jawaan Taylor is easily your worst starter you're doing pretty good. Raimann has quietly become one of the top LTs in the game and he's still growing (PFF rated him 7th this year). Jenkins quietly had a nice season but still missed too many games. Rasheed Walker looks like he has a future in the league and Warren flashed in moments.

DL Justin Madubuike D2-64/20 (BAL) - 56 TKL 13.0 SK PB AP2
DL Mazi Smith D1-31/23 (DAL) - 13 TKL 1.0 SK
DL Zach Sieler D7-219/18 (MIA) - 63 TKL 10.0 SK
DL Dante Stills D6-209/23 (ARZ) - 47 TKL 3.5 SK
DL Desjuan Johnson D7-249/23 (LAR) - 9 TKL 2.0 SK

Madubuike and Sieler are an absolute wrecking crew. Everything else is gravy. Really encouraged by Dante Stills' rookie year.

ER Matt Judon D4-129/16 (NE) - 13 TKL 4.0 SK
ER George Karlaftis D1-30/22 (KC) - 47 TKL 10.5 SK
ER K.J. Henry D4-134/23 (WAS) - 19 TKL 1.5 SK
ER Ogbonnia Okoronkwo D5-159/18 (CLE) - 31 TKL 4.5 SK
ER Charles Omenihu KC FA/23 - 28 TKL 7.0 SK

Losing Judon early hurt but Karlaftis and Omenihu stepped up. Henry got some starts late and actually looked pretty good. He has a future.

LB Cole Holcomb D5-167/19 (PIT) - 54 TKL 0.0 SK 0 INT
LB Logan Wilson D2-63/20 (CIN) - 135 TKL 1.0 SK 4 INT
LB Drue Tranquill KC FA/23 - 78 TKL 4.5 SK 0 INT
LB Leo Chenal D3-94/22 (KC) - 65 TKL 3.0 SK 0 INT
LB Isaiah McDuffie D6-208/21 (GB) - 86 TKL 0.5 SK 0 INT

Holcomb went down again this year, disappointingly, but McDuffie stepped up. Wilson got snubbed from a PB. A damned good crew here. Hopefully, Tranquill can be retained.

CB L'Jarius Sneed D4-138/20 (KC) - 78 TKL 14 PD 2 INT
CB Paulson Adebo D2-63/21 (NO) - 76 TKL 18 PD 4 INT
CB Byron Murphy D1-29/19 (MIN) - 57 TKL 13 PD 3 INT
CB Kelee Ringo D3-95/23 (PHI) - 21 TKL 2 PD 1 INT
CB Christian Benford D5-173/22 (BUF) - 54 TKL 10 PD 2 INT

Lights out CB group here. Ringo turning in some solid snaps late gives me even more hope that it continues to be great.

DB Jessie Bates III D2-52/18 (ATL) - 132 TKL 11 PD 6 INT PB AP2
DB Justin Reid KC FA/22 - 95 TKL 7 PD 1 INT
DB Amani Hooker D4-116/19 (TEN) - 85 TKL 7 PD 1 INT
DB Anthony Johnson Jr. D6-217/23 (GB) - 24 TKL 3 PD 1 INT

The safety group is every bit as good as the CB group, highlighted by the best one in the game in Bates.

SK Harrison Butker KC FA/17 - 33/35 FGM 38/38 XP
SP Tommy Townsend KC FA/20 - 47.1 Y/P 41.9 N/P 20 IN20
LS James Winchester - 17 GP

Great special teams once again.

This team would have easily won a Super Bowl, no doubt. The defense is absolutely stacked.

WR is my only major hole, honestly. Probably need to address RB, backup QB, ER, and see if a RT falls.

Say hi to your wives for me.

I can't begin to describe how many picks I've dumped into the offensive and defensive line. Played OLine for way too long and I still can't scout it reliably sans OC.

You need a CB, S, LB, RB? No problem...

I can't figure out if it's a pattern on my end or just randomness. I kind of think it's randomness about where I draft well or poorly.

Historically, I've done well on the OL and DTs and DBs, and for the entire 10+ years I've done this I've been terrible at DEs and LBs. But now I suddenly am stocking up on them and I can't draft a WR at all, despite putting notable draft capital into that position.

Of course, a lot of success is finding one or two guys. I drafted Russell Wilson back when the Chiefs had no QB, and I drafted Travis Kelce and Alvin Kamara, which set those positions up for a decade. Having a few successes like that let me dump draft capital into other positions for a long time, but of course with mixed success. And when you put high picks into a guy who doesn't work out, it's a disaster, more so than I realize just watching the real guys do it. A missed 1st and 2nd round pick will kill you, and misses aren't uncommon.

I think a big thing is picking where we pick matters.

Finding a competent LT at the bottom of 1 or later was a 3-year exercise. Not easy and it took Raimann a couple of seasons to develop to boot. I chose not to trade for Orlando Brown Jr so I did it to myself and it proved to be harder than at first glance.

The other lesson I learned as recently as this past season was that taking DTs in round 1 is a pretty futile exercise. I've blown a few high picks on them now and it just isn't worth it. Take DTs in round 2 or later IMO.

Some positions I've found good players all over the draft like CB, S, and RB so I think you just pick the guy you like in the right spot when it presents itself and maybe not force anything there.

I haven't put much for resources into WR since I drafted Boyd 8 years ago in the high 2nd. Mostly 4th-7th round picks. Some have been fine like Gabe Davis. Others, not so much haha. Probably high time to start spending real resources there.

I've found that as well. The Chiefs have seldom had a high pick in the 10+ years I've been doing this, and that makes some positions (QB and LT in particular) really hard to obtain. That's why I jumped on the Orlando Brown trade.

I'm going to be completely screwed when Russell Wilson retires, because that will mean that I'll have to find a franchise quarterback in the second round or later, and the Chiefs aren't going to be signing any big-name free agents at quarterback.

About time to figure out what picks I have…

Cool. Can you show your work to help the rest of us out? I've been busy with other life things recently.

How have we handled comp picks in years past? Do we get them? Get them if we had the assumed departingplayer on our roster?

I think this is our framework this year, but always appreciate my math being checked.

KC baseline Draft picks:

1-32
2-64
3-95
4-131
5-167
5-173 (comp pick)
6-208
7-252

Lose:
6-208 if you traded with the Raiders for DT N. Ferrel last year

Trade:
Gain 7-221 and TEN’s 2025 3rd for 7-252 and Snead

Gain:
5-159 if you executed the draft day trade with Dallas in 2023 (the Chiefs traded last years #178 for Dallas’ #159 this year)

Lose:
5-167 if you executed the draft day trade with Minnesota in 2023 (the Chiefs traded last years #132 and this years 5th for #119 last year which turned into Chammari Conner)

To keep it simple, we just assume that we get comp picks.

I am trading Snead (I don’t really have a choice) so I think the Trash Pandas are looking at:

1-32
2-64
3-95
4-131
5-167
5-173
6-208
7-221

Thanks for the work. So for me, it looks like...

I'll reject the trade for Neil Farrell, so I'll keep 6-208.

I don't have Sneed, so I'll keep the 7-252 pick and won't get the 7-221 pick.

I didn't have the #178 pick to trade last year, so I don't have the 5-159 pick this year.

I didn't make the Conner trade, so I keep the 5-167 pick.

So that means that my picks are:

1-32
2-64
3-95
4-131
5-167
5-173 (comp pick)
6-208
7-252

It looks like I'm making the baseline picks this year.

I'll have the baseline picks pending whatever I decide to do with Sneed. I haven't made that decision just yet. I drafted him so I could keep him if I want to and he is my #1 CB with Adebo as the #2 and Murphy as the NB. I'd have Benford as a starter but that's a big drop from Sneed. I'm torn. I do like the press corners in this draft so I'm considering the pick next year as a positive.

If I had Sneed, there's no way I would let him go in this game.

I inherited him when I started, so I don't think I have a choice. I either accept the picks - or he just vanishes from my roster?

Crow was smart enough to draft him!

Yeah, I don't think I can either. He's just too good and losing him would create a pretty large hole I don't want to create.

My other conundrum is considering a pre-draft trade-up. Do I go balls deep and hope BTJ is there at 18? Because I don't think I realistically would want to lose more than 32, 64, and 131. It would take 32, 64, 95, and 173 to get to 16. Ugh.

Actually, you can decline trades. We don't mess with salary caps here, so if you trade Sneed you don't get a heck of a lot in terms of picks.

Hey Rainman, can you give clarity on the trade charts?

You have the Rich Hill model linked for a trade down and a non-working link to the Jimmy Johnson model linked for a trade up.

Which model are we using and can they be the same thing?

Thanks

I updated the OP as follows:

1. Trade down now costs 25 percent since we no longer have high picks.
2. We'll use the Rich Hill model for both trade ups and trade downs, whoever, Rich Hill is.

I'm going to trust in Veach to trade up for me... and I'm keeping Sneed.

Draft Day Trades. You can accept or reject them at face value with no penalty or premium.

Chiefs traded picks 32, 95, and 221 to Buffalo for picks 28, 133, and 248.

Chiefs traded picks 64 and 173 to San Francisco for picks 63 and 211.

2024 Superior Yetis Draft
 

I came into this draft with KC's baseline selections (1-32, 2-64, 3-95, 4-131, 5-167, 5-173, 6-208, and 7-252).

Since I decided I'm keeping Sneed and do not have selection 221, I'm executing my own trade in the draft.

I'm going to trade up with Buffalo as follows:
1-32, 2-64, 5-173
184 + 80 + 9 = 273*0.85 = 232.05
for
1-28, 5-144, 5-160
209 + 13 + 10 = 232

The overall theme here is to inject talent into my depleted weaponry on offense, especially at WR.

1-028: WR Xavier Worthy, Texas (KC 1-28)
I loved this pick by KC and their draft overall. Worthy is a speed merchant that will inject a homerun hitter into my lineup that it has been severely lacking. I'm banking on premier ability here and I hope it pays off because the allure of going all-in on Brian Thomas is strong.

3-095: WR Troy Franklin, Oregon (DEN 4-102)
Franklin's inexplicable fall I feel is to my benefit here as I had a 1st round grade on him. Franklin adds more speed and is a guy who can uncover at all levels. He's walking into a situation where he can see a lot of targets early on.

4-131: TE Jared Wiley, TCU (KC 4-131)
Wiley was my top TE want in this draft. I like his seam-stretching ability and his large frame as a red-zone target. Once he learns to work the intermediate level well and find soft spots in zones, I think he's going to be really good.

5-144: OC Hunter Nourzad, Penn State (KC 5-159)
I feel as though I'm repeating the Chiefs' draft but I loved it, the players, and the positional values fit my needs as well. Nourzad gives me some versatility on the interior. With Bozeman being atrocious this past season, I really need a new reserve there.

5-160: RB Rasheen Ali, Marshall (BAL 5-165)
Ali might not get a chance for too many early reps but injuries are always a possibility. I think he's a really nice fit as a dual-threat back with starter traits. I like him more than Tracy and age is a factor here as well. I'm taking a shot here at improving my reserve situation.

5-167: WR Malik Washington, Virginia (MIA 5-184)
Washington could end up an instant starter in the slot, which would really help offset the pending loss of Boyd in the next year or two. I like his speed and ability to get open underneath.

6-208: OG Christian Mahogany, Boston College (DET 6-210)
I'm always looking to bolster the trenches to a fault. Mahogany is a depth play here for the future as he'll likely sit and learn for a year and improve his body and pass-blocking range. He has the physicality and temperament you want from a potential starter on the interior.

7-252: ER Jaylen Harrell, Michigan (TEN 7-252)
I'm taking a major stab at an edge here this late but I like Harrell's makeup as a fluid speed rusher at 3-4 OLB and I think he'll get the opportunity for snaps in sub packages early on in his career.

TRAINING CAMP ROSTER

Will post my draft tonight or tomorrow. My trades are off by 0.5 and 1 point respectively with the 25% discount. I'm forcing them through, you can blackball and thread ban me if needed Rainman! :p

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2024 Tacoma Trash Pandas Draft

My goal this cycle is to transform my WR corps. Far and away it is the biggest hole in my roster, and the only spot I feel that I’m not fielding an NFL average or better unit. While the rookies might only pay minor dividends this year, my hope is the investment in this draft class will set me up at the position for the next decade if I can long-term starters from 2/3 of my first three picks.

I also desperately tried to snag one of the Eagles two CB selections, but just couldn’t make the points work.

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Trade Down: the Tacoma Trash Pandas send picks #64, #167, and #173 (73.5 points when discounted 25%) to the Cincinnati Bengals in exchange for picks #80, #149, and #194 (74 points)

Trade Up: the Tacoma Trash Pandas send picks #208 and #252 (5 points when discounted 25%) to the Carolina Panthers for #200 (5 points)

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1-32: Keon Coleman, WR, FSU (Bills)

**might swap for Ladd McConkey, WR, Georgia**

3-80: Jermaine Burton, WR, Alabama (Bengals)

3-95: Troy Franklin, WR, Oregon (Broncos)

4-131: Jaden Hicks, S, Washington State (Chiefs - Drafted)

5-149: Hunter Nourzad, IOL, Penn State* (Chiefs - Drafted)

**might swap for Jeremiah Trotter Jr., LB, Clemson**

6-194: Kristian Boyd, DT, Northern Iowa (Saints)

6-200: Jaden Crumedy, DT, Mississippi State (Panthers)

Okay, here we go.

First off, I'm not going to accept either of the Chiefs' two draft day trades.

However, I'm going to make a trade down with the Colts.

I'm giving up Pick 1-32 (138 points after the 25% discount), and in return I will take 2-52 (109 points), 4-117 (25 points), and 7-234 (2 points)

Therefore, I now have ten picks.

2-52
2-64
3-95
4-117
4-131
5-167
5-173 (comp pick)
6-208
7-234
7-252

2-52 WR Adonai Mitchell (2-52 Colts) - He was the target of my trade down, because he seemed like a good value compared to my other options. I didn't seriously consider trading up even though I like Worthy.

Also considered: Xavier Legette, Jer'zhawn Newton, trade down for Kris Jenkins.

2-64 WR Malachi Corley (3-65 Jets) - I need receiver help badly, so I doubled up on my first two picks, and I didn't see options at other positions that were compelling.

Also considered: Andru Phillips, Jermaine Burton, trade down for Adisa Isaac.

3-95 DT DeWayne Carter (3-95 Bills) - I've got a bunch of young guys at DT and I need someone to step up. Carter has a chance to start in that group, but anything can happen.

Also considered: McKinnley Jackson, Ja'Tavion Sanders, Brandon Dorlus, Devontez Walker

4-117 RB Jaylen Wright (4-120-Dolphins) - My running back room is really thin, so it made sense to add Wright with a mid-round pick.

Also considered: T.J. Tampa

4-131 Sedrick Van Pran-Granger (4-141 - Bills) - I had a big lineup hole at center since Cody Whitehair moved to guard. I strongly debated taking a promising guy lower, but I figure this guy will immediately start and upgrade my line.

Also considered: Cam Hart, Anthony Gould, Austin Booker, Jarvis Brownlee, Tommy Eichenberg, Hunter Nourzad.

5-167 OT Walter Rouse (5-177 Vikings) - I'm thin at tackle, but I don't have an immediate need. Rouse will be a developmental guy.

Also considered: Quan'tez Stiggers

5-173 CB Caelen Carson (5-174 Cowboys) - I really need cornerbacks, but with other needs I had to take them late. Carson seems to have promise and could easily grab a starting job for us.

Also considered: Very strongly considered Johnny Wilson but already drafted two WRs. Also Jase McClellan, D.J. James, Khristian Boyd.

6-208 DE Cedric Johnson (6-214 Bengals) - I've got starters at DE, but need developmental depth. Johnson is a good fit here.

Also considered: Ryan Flournoy, Brendan Rice, Nathan Thomas.

7-234 DE Myles Cole (7-236 Jaguars). This was a luxury pick for me since I had most of my needs covered. Again, I need developmental depth at DE.

Also considered: Really strongly considered Ladarius Henderson here. Also considered Matt Lee, but decided to invest earlier in a center.

7-252 CB Kalen King (7-255 Packers). My cornerback situation is odd. I've got depth, but need quality starters, so I'm rolling the dice here.

Also considered: Really wanted Cornelius Johnson, but I've already spent two high picks on WRs. Also considered Nick Gargulio, but decided to get a center earlier.

It's interesting that we're all really desperate for receivers, and we're all taking very different paths to address that need. It'll be fun to see whose approach comes out on top.

I thought about going up for Mitchell instead of Burton, I just couldn't make the points work.

As you said Rain, super fascinating that we have a trade up, a stay in place, and a trade down!

Off the top of my head, I've invested 2nd-round picks recently in Andy Isabella, Terrace Marshall, and James Washington, and I've gotten next to nothing from them. At some point I've got to hit on one, right?

It is interesting. I thought hard about doing a near blend of what the two of you did and going with Coleman and Corley but I feel like I got two of my favorite prospects by grabbing Worthy and Franklin. It could blow up in my face but I'm rolling the dice.

I initially wanted pick 144 to grab Ainias Smith but I like Nourzad so much that I just couldn't do it and settled on Malik Washington who might just be the better prospect overall anyhow.