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Hammock Parties 09-16-2014 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 10921222)
Where the **** do you get the coaches tape? Do you torrent it?

NFL game rewind.

They have the all 22 view too.

KC native 09-16-2014 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan (Post 10921209)
Out of all those gifs i only saw two or three that were clear f ups. Fisher had a good game.

LACF rating +4.5

I see you have your new man crush.

Happy hunting sir.

http://i.imgur.com/hL7SBmh.png

srvy 09-16-2014 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10921045)
Fisher gets picked up and slammed to the ground. Regardless of what impact that had on the play, that's a major ****up that only happens if you have poor technique, balance, and strength.

http://i.imgur.com/PLz5WPt.gif

You do see 75 McGlynne tries put a chip on and instead knocks his own teammate Eric off balance. Fisher had the advantage at the snap dumb ply by 75 who didn't get off the ball fast enough to get a chip. He should have just gone field to find another block. That one is on 75.

Rausch 09-16-2014 05:54 PM

I've been ragging pretty hard on 75 but in half of Clays gifs (small sample size) he's doing his job better than anal-Fisher.

He's slower than Marino and clumsy but he still held his man...

-King- 09-16-2014 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 10921145)
I completely defended picking Eric Fisher. I think it was logical and prudent.

The guy is a giant festering turd and he will never get better and he is Jamarcus Russell terrible.

Meh. I just don't care anymore. The 2013 was the worst draft maybe ever. It is what it is.
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Rausch 09-16-2014 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10921243)
Meh. I just don't care anymore. The 2013 was the worst draft maybe ever. It is what it is.
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2014 is probably worse...

chiefzilla1501 09-16-2014 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Count Zarth (Post 10921220)
I'm sure it was his job to end up on the ground, get ****ing body slammed or be driven three yards into the backfield.

Come on, man.

I said there were bad blocks in there. I am talking about how you conveniently sprinkled in lots of blocks where Fisher didn't necessarily create a great block, but did enough. And yeah, if Fisher's job is to turn his guy inside on a sweep? If Fisher's trying to cut his guy but McGlynn is slow to get out of the way? If Fisher seals a cutback lane but his teammates don't? You're making some massive assumptions about Fisher's assignment as well as the cutback lane.

Hammock Parties 09-16-2014 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10921249)
you conveniently sprinkled in lots of blocks where Fisher didn't necessarily create a great block, but did enough.

Disagree. I don't see this at all.

Even if half of what you say is true allowing 5 QB hits doesn't jive with "Eric Fisher had a good game!"

chiefzilla1501 09-16-2014 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Count Zarth (Post 10921255)
Disagree. I don't see this at all.

Even if half of what you say is true allowing 5 QB hits doesn't jive with "Eric Fisher had a good game!"

Most people who said he had a good game have said his pass pro started to look rough toward the end of the game. I am not commenting on his pass pro because while some plays are pretty loosely thrown in there, there's some real bad ones. But in context, a lot of his problems look like fatigue.

The run blocking was very liberal. He did his job fine in a good chunk of those plays.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-16-2014 06:05 PM

This isn't a ****ing Algebra II test. You don't get "decent marks" if you fail on almost thirty percent of your snaps, and there isn't a curve in the NFL.

chiefzilla1501 09-16-2014 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10921271)
This isn't a ****ing Algebra II test. You don't get "decent marks" if you fail on almost thirty percent of your snaps, and there isn't a curve in the NFL.

Failure on 30% of snaps based on what? Based on someone on CP evaluating what makes up a failed play?

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-16-2014 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10921280)
Failure on 30% of snaps based on what? Based on someone on CP evaluating what makes up a failed play?

Maybe I'm ****ing crazy, but if you move to get in front of someone as an offensive lineman, you are probably expected to not let them get past you, around you, or slam you to the ****ing ground.

Just Passin' By 09-16-2014 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by srvy (Post 10921239)
You do see 75 McGlynne tries put a chip on and instead knocks his own teammate Eric off balance. Fisher had the advantage at the snap dumb ply by 75 who didn't get off the ball fast enough to get a chip. He should have just gone field to find another block. That one is on 75.

Fisher's play is fine on that one. The blow up is on #80. Once you see that, you don't really need to keep going, because it shows that Clay is going to troll his own thread again.

chiefzilla1501 09-16-2014 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10921286)
Maybe I'm ****ing crazy, but if you move to get in front of someone as an offensive lineman, you are probably expected to not let them get past you, around you, or slam you to the ****ing ground.

You're talking about one play. There are several plays in there that are no good. There are a good chunk that were played just fine. And if the context is to grade what we see as improvement, then yeah, it's fair to grade plays late in the game on a curve if fatigue led to some sloppy technique. Others where a teammate screwed up a blocking assignment and yet others where Smith should be savvy enough to work the pocket differently.

That doesn't fix everything. But that sure as shit cuts down that subjective 30 percent number by a wide margin.

xztop123 09-16-2014 06:46 PM

He seems incredibly weak


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