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Bump 12-10-2012 06:56 PM

Was I wrong to call the cops?
 
Really strange thing just happened.

So I'm sitting here lurking CP and Reddit. It was about 6:30 pm at the time.

My doorbell rang. People around here always go door to door and it's always an annoying foreign person trying to get money (often french, sometimes asian), so I didn't want to answer the door and I chose to ignore it since I'm not expecting anybody. I keep forgetting to get a no soliciting sign to put on my door.

Well then this guy starts ringing the doorbell over and over and over and over and over and then he starts banging the door really loud over and over and then more ringing the doorbell. It seemed really aggressive.

Mind you, I just watched Batman The Dark Knight Rises like 2 days ago. And without even knowing it, I yelled in a very loud batman voice WHO IS IT???

he yells PLUMBER in a loud manner and he sounded mexican, just to paint a picture.

I yell, I DIDNT ORDER A PLUMBER

The problem with the way my house is, I can't see from any window who is at the door. I have to do downstairs and open the door to see who it is. So I didn't know who the **** is out there and I didn't order any plumber.

So after I yelled "I DIDNT ORDER A PLUMBER!!" he starts banging the door and jiggling the door knob. So I'm like holy shit, this guy is trying to get in my house. I grab my knife and yell "I DIDNT ORDER A PLUMBER, SO LEAVE"

and he continues to jiggle the door knob and he's saying something that I can't make out. And continues to ring the door bell and bang on the door.

So I yell I'M CALLING THE POLICE

he continues to bang the door and jiggle the door knob for about another second and then disappears. Because at that point, my adrenaline is pumping and I already called the police so I march outside with my knife because at that point I want to see who the **** it is and why are they trying to get in my house. No sign of anybody.

There is a plumber van outside the door parked on the street, a reputable company. But nobody there.

He probably had the wrong house, but what kind of plumber keeps banging the door like that?

I told the cops, I don't know this just seemed really really off. They were like that's okay, thats what we are here for and they looked in the van but nobody in there and mentioned they wanted to speak to the plumber.

20 minutes later I hear the van start up and it drives off.

****ing weird.

Everything points to a complete misunderstanding except why did the guy keep banging the door, jiggling the door know and ringing the doorbell after I already told him to leave? Who does that?

Aidan 12-10-2012 06:58 PM

epic.

SAUTO 12-10-2012 06:59 PM

Good thing you weren't busy partaking
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Nightfyre 12-10-2012 07:00 PM

Sounds like Jenson decided to post another story.

stonedstooge 12-10-2012 07:02 PM

They're after your weed man

Rain Man 12-10-2012 07:04 PM

I bet he was trying to steal the copper out of your house.

LiveSteam 12-10-2012 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aidan (Post 9197829)
epic.

Now see. This is a good post

Reerun_KC 12-10-2012 07:06 PM

My .45 answers the door and says " say hello to my little friend"

Hammock Parties 12-10-2012 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 9197824)
Mind you, I just watched Batman The Dark Knight Rises like 2 days ago. And without even knowing it, I yelled in a very loud batman voice WHO IS IT???

http://i.imgur.com/kQHnc.gif

Goldmember 12-10-2012 07:13 PM

I had a drunk guy try to break into my apt once. I didn't open the door at first but he was throwing his body into the door. He was a big guy and I thought he was going to break the door down. His friend was trying to tell him he had he wrong place but didn't try too hard to pull him away. I told his friend I was going to call the police. I opened the door and told him to get the **** out and he started toward me. I shoved him backward, he stumbled back and I closed the door. The police finally came and escorted him to his apt which was another bldg away. Dumbass drunk.

Bugeater 12-10-2012 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aidan (Post 9197829)
epic.

lol

Bump 12-10-2012 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goldmember (Post 9197873)
I had a drunk guy try to break into my apt once. I didn't open the door at first but he was throwing his body into the door. He was a big guy and I thought he was going to break the door down. His friend was trying to tell him he had he wrong place but didn't try too hard to pull him away. I told his friend I was going to call the police. I opened the door and told him to get the **** out and he started toward me. I shoved him backward, he stumbled back and I closed the door. The police finally came and escorted him to his apt which was another bldg away. Dumbass drunk.

you never hear of anybody high doing that. We'd be like "damn, is this the right place? whoa? and sit there for a few minutes thinking about it and then reach the conclusion that this isn't the right place and move along.

GloryDayz 12-10-2012 07:16 PM

It was prolly Eric Winston who's disgusted at your pipes.

cosmo20002 12-10-2012 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 9197824)
Really strange thing just happened.

So I'm sitting here lurking CP and Reddit. It was about 6:30 pm at the time.

My doorbell rang. People around here always go door to door and it's always an annoying foreign person trying to get money (often french, sometimes asian), so I didn't want to answer the door and I chose to ignore it since I'm not expecting anybody. I keep forgetting to get a no soliciting sign to put on my door.

Well then this guy starts ringing the doorbell over and over and over and over and over and then he starts banging the door really loud over and over and then more ringing the doorbell. It seemed really aggressive.

Mind you, I just watched Batman The Dark Knight Rises like 2 days ago. And without even knowing it, I yelled in a very loud batman voice WHO IS IT???

he yells PLUMBER in a loud manner and he sounded mexican, just to paint a picture.

I yell, I DIDNT ORDER A PLUMBER

The problem with the way my house is, I can't see from any window who is at the door. I have to do downstairs and open the door to see who it is. So I didn't know who the **** is out there and I didn't order any plumber.

So after I yelled "I DIDNT ORDER A PLUMBER!!" he starts banging the door and jiggling the door knob. So I'm like holy shit, this guy is trying to get in my house. I grab my knife and yell "I DIDNT ORDER A PLUMBER, SO LEAVE"

and he continues to jiggle the door knob and he's saying something that I can't make out. And continues to ring the door bell and bang on the door.

So I yell I'M CALLING THE POLICE

he continues to bang the door and jiggle the door knob for about another second and then disappears. Because at that point, my adrenaline is pumping and I already called the police so I march outside with my knife because at that point I want to see who the **** it is and why are they trying to get in my house. No sign of anybody.

There is a plumber van outside the door parked on the street, a reputable company. But nobody there.

He probably had the wrong house, but what kind of plumber keeps banging the door like that?

I told the cops, I don't know this just seemed really really off. They were like that's okay, thats what we are here for and they looked in the van but nobody in there and mentioned they wanted to speak to the plumber.

20 minutes later I hear the van start up and it drives off.

****ing weird.

Everything points to a complete misunderstanding except why did the guy keep banging the door, jiggling the door know and ringing the doorbell after I already told him to leave? Who does that?

Is there any chance--any chance at all--that you were really baked and this might not have happened like this?

seclark 12-10-2012 07:22 PM

so, are the pants you pissed in being washed yet, or just laying on the floor?

"BOB'S NOT HERE, MAN!"
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KurtCobain 12-10-2012 07:22 PM

You got tough after you'd called the police

MIAdragon 12-10-2012 07:23 PM

http://i.qkme.me/3qt8hq.jpg

LiveSteam 12-10-2012 07:25 PM

My friend was banging his wife & caught a pepping tom out side his window. He ran out caught the guy & proceeded beat the tar out of the Tom. Tom got a ticket & was sent of his way. My friend Marty. He went to jail for 190 days for assault .
This was in Iowa for the record. Council-tucky weirdos

seclark 12-10-2012 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiveSteam (Post 9197909)
My friend was banging his wife & caught a pepping tom out side his window. He ran out caught the guy & proceeded beat the tar out of the Tom. Tom got a ticket & was sent of his way. My friend Marty. He went to jail for 190 days for assault .
This was in Iowa for the record. Council-tucky weirdos

ROFLdid he put some pants on first?
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Bump 12-10-2012 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 9197896)
Is there any chance--any chance at all--that you were really baked and this might not have happened like this?

nope

burt 12-10-2012 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goldmember (Post 9197873)
I had a drunk guy try to break into my apt once. I didn't open the door at first but he was throwing his body into the door. He was a big guy and I thought he was going to break the door down. His friend was trying to tell him he had he wrong place but didn't try too hard to pull him away. I told his friend I was going to call the police. I opened the door and told him to get the **** out and he started toward me. I shoved him backward, he stumbled back and I closed the door. The police finally came and escorted him to his apt which was another bldg away. Dumbass drunk.

and I am still sorry!!!

Bump 12-10-2012 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Argo (Post 9197903)
You got tough after you'd called the police

ya, pretty much. I couldn't see who is out there. I don't own a gun. What's a knife gonna do in the event someone has a gun?

I thought to myself, hell the cops will be here soon if I have to fight lol

Goldmember 12-10-2012 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 9197881)
you never hear of anybody high doing that. We'd be like "damn, is this the right place? whoa? and sit there for a few minutes thinking about it and then reach the conclusion that this isn't the right place and move along.

that is true

Goldmember 12-10-2012 07:31 PM

You never sent me any flowers

burt 12-10-2012 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goldmember (Post 9197929)
You never sent me any flowers

I probably sent those to the wrong place too.......

LiveSteam 12-10-2012 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seclark (Post 9197910)
ROFLdid he put some pants on first?
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Just underwear. The Tom just wanted to leave. Marty like an idiot called the cops thinking the Tom would go to jail. Police wouldn't care that Marty smacked the guy around a bit. Did not work out that way. Marty was in trouble for hitting him & holding him there against his will until the cops came.

PRIEST 12-10-2012 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 9197881)
you never hear of anybody high doing that. We'd be like "damn, is this the right place? whoa? and sit there for a few minutes thinking about it and then reach the conclusion that this isn't the right place and move along.





This ROFL

Bwana 12-10-2012 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 9197923)
ya, pretty much. I couldn't see who is out there. I don't own a gun. What's a knife gonna do in the event someone has a gun?

I thought to myself, hell the cops will be here soon if I have to fight lol

Get you dead.

TribalElder 12-10-2012 07:40 PM

TL;DR

**** callin the police

Easy 6 12-10-2012 07:41 PM

Sounds like a real plumber, an aggressive, dickhead plumber.

If he was banging around on doors in the neighborhood like that for twenty minutes, probably wasnt trying to be slick.

But honestly, who knows, its a crazy world out there...

Should've just shotgun blasted him through the door to be sure.

seclark 12-10-2012 07:43 PM

so, how'd your dog act? did it get fired up w/someone jackin with the door?
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BlackHelicopters 12-10-2012 07:43 PM

Step away from the bag of cheet-ohs...............

Bump 12-10-2012 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seclark (Post 9197977)
so, how'd your dog act? did it get fired up w/someone jackin with the door?
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she's is not a guard dog lol. She just got excited but I put her in her room but she wasn't barking, just acting excited. I don't know if that's how black labs typically are or not. I would like her to be a little defensive of the home lol.

Bump 12-10-2012 07:51 PM

at some point, when I move out of here and have more land I'm going to get another dog that's more aggressive, as long as it gets along with my dog now. I think that will rub off on my dog and once one dog starts barking and acting badass, the other one will to.

seclark 12-10-2012 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 9198010)
she's is not a guard dog lol. She just got excited but I put her in her room but she wasn't barking, just acting excited. I don't know if that's how black labs typically are or not. I would like her to be a little defensive of the home lol.

yeah, but she probably knew you were calling the cops.
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CHENZ A! 12-10-2012 08:36 PM

No, you were right to call the police.. It was pretty dumb to run out your door with a knife though.

munkey 12-10-2012 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aidan (Post 9197829)
epic.

This....

TLO 12-10-2012 08:45 PM

Claythan got scared

hometeam 12-10-2012 08:54 PM

You weren't wrong to call the cops. Lots of home invasions start with some bullshit line like 'I'm a plumber'

That being said, why don't you own a handgun?

petegz28 12-10-2012 08:59 PM

Firstly, no, you were not wrong to call the cops. This guy may be doing this elsewhere and if so the cops need to know he was at your house, in your neighborhood, etc.

Secondly and more importantly, buy a mother ****ing firearm!

Saul Good 12-10-2012 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bwana (Post 9197957)
Get you dead.

Inside 12 feet, a knife is a better weapon than a gun.

Hammock Parties 12-10-2012 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Smoke (Post 9198277)
Claythan got scared

WOULD YOU SHUT THE **** UP I DON'T HAVE ANY GODDAMN MULTS

petegz28 12-10-2012 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9198336)
Inside 12 feet, a knife is a better weapon than a gun.

two words....

12
gauge

KChiefer 12-10-2012 09:06 PM

That's a landshark encounter if I've ever heard one. Better upgrade your knife to a harpoon.

Dayze 12-10-2012 09:08 PM

just a dolphin ma'am.

Saul Good 12-10-2012 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 9198357)
two words....

12
gauge

Doesn't matter. Inside 12 feet, you aren't going to hit unless you've already aimed. Knives don't miss.

In58men 12-10-2012 09:12 PM

Who in the **** calls the cops? What a ****ing sissy.

petegz28 12-10-2012 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9198377)
Doesn't matter. Inside 12 feet, you aren't going to hit unless you've already aimed. Knives don't miss.

Uh, yes, knives too miss and if the other guy has a gun, you're dead. A shotguns don't miss inside 12 feet. That's why they are the best firearm for homedefense. It's point and shoot and you will drop a mother ****er with a 12 gauge.


WTF would I want to get all up on someone with a knife when I can stand 5 ft away and drop a bitch?

petegz28 12-10-2012 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9198383)
Who in the **** calls the cops? What a ****ing sissy.

You call the cops to cover your ass. ALWAYS call the cops first if you have the chance. It makes it look like you did all you could after the cops show up and there is a dead body just inside your door.

Demonpenz 12-10-2012 09:16 PM

I would ****ing snake him.

In58men 12-10-2012 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 9198399)
You call the cops to cover your ass. ALWAYS call the cops first if you have the chance. It makes it look like you did all you could after the cops show up and there is a dead body just inside your door.

I would have told him to kick the ****ing door in instead of screaming like a girl.

Dayze 12-10-2012 09:18 PM

I just keep a Cassel jersey handy and toss it at the intruder. No one wants a part of that shit.

Saul Good 12-10-2012 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 9198392)
Uh, yes, knives too miss and if the other guy has a gun, you're dead. A shotguns don't miss inside 12 feet. That's why they are the best firearm for homedefense. It's point and shoot and you will drop a mother ****er with a 12 gauge.


WTF would I want to get all up on someone with a knife when I can stand 5 ft away and drop a bitch?

If all you have is a knife, and someone with a gun is breaking into your house, you want to get as close as you can to him.

DeezNutz 12-10-2012 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9198336)
Inside 12 feet, a knife is a better weapon than a gun.

Yeah, OK. You can have the knife. I'll stick with what I have.

In58men 12-10-2012 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 9198414)
I just keep a Cassel jersey handy and toss it at the intruder. No one wants a part of that shit.

Intruder commits suicide.



AHHHHHHHHH BOOM

Dayze 12-10-2012 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9198422)
Intruder commits suicide.



AHHHHHHHHH BOOM

LMAO

Demonpenz 12-10-2012 09:20 PM

wish I could just queue up my home defense.jpgs

petegz28 12-10-2012 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9198417)
If all you have is a knife, and someone with a gun is breaking into your house, you want to get as close as you can to him.

If all you have is a knife and someone with a gun is breaking into your house you need to hide or just gtfo. You bring a knife to a gun fight and you are going to lose.

I am not talking no hollywood bs here. You never, ever want to engage someone in hand-hand if you can avoid it. Most people have no clue of how to use a knife in a fight. And you just might end up getting stabbed with your own knife.

petegz28 12-10-2012 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9198421)
Yeah, OK. You can have the knife. I'll stick with what I have.

Agreed. I'll take my chances on dropping someone with a firearm as opposed to trying to drop them with a knife.

petegz28 12-10-2012 09:25 PM

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Shotguns: The Best Felon Killing Home Defense Tool Ever Made

Countless hours have been spent arguing what makes the “best” home defense gun. The reality is there is not a single gun that meets the requirements of every person and household.

Frequently, when talking about home defense guns, the shotgun is brought up first. The shotgun can make a very good home defense weapon, but it does have limitations that should be carefully considered.

Shotguns offer devastating stopping power. From a 12 gauge shell, a homeowner can put nine 00-buck (.33 caliber) pellets into an assailant with each pull of the trigger. While this is not guaranteed to stop a determined attacker, it is certainly an attention getter.

By comparison, a 9mm pistol fires a single .355 caliber bullet at typically slower velocities than the shotgun. You would have to pull the trigger nine times on a pistol to put the same kind of stopping power into an assailant as a single shotgun shell.

But there are a number of drawbacks associated with the shotgun including recoil, size and unrealistic expectations regarding performance.

Ouch Factor

Shotgun recoil is stout. A smaller statured shooter is less likely to want to shoot a 12 gauge pump. The very thing that makes the shotgun so effective — power — is the same thing that makes people shy away from using it.

Shotgun recoil can be tamed in a variety of ways. For example, consider using a 20 gauge instead of 12 gauge shotgun. A 20 gauge shotgun loaded with #3 buck (20 .25 caliber pellets) is nearly as effective on human targets in across-the-room distances as a 12 gauge loaded with 00-buck, but has significantly less recoil.

Also, the use of a semi-auto shotgun can reduce felt recoil since the operating system uses some of that energy to eject and chamber shells. Moving from a 12 gauge pump to a semi automatic 20 can really change a reluctant shooter into a willing one.

If you decide to go with the 12 gauge shotgun, consider using the reduced recoil loads offered by most manufacturers. These loads have been used to great effect by law enforcement agencies, with no noticeable loss in terminal performance. In other words, less recoil but same stopping power.

A Knoxx recoil reduction stock from BLACKHAWK! significantly reduces recoil. As a former cop, I carried a shotgun in a patrol car for more than 10 years, and I state without any hesitation that the Knoxx stock is the best accessory ever designed for a combat shotgun.

Size Matters

Size matters in two important aspects: length of barrel and length of pull.

The length of the shotgun barrel typically ranges from 18” to 28”. Anything shorter is illegal without the proper tax stamp from Big Brother.

A long shotgun barrel, such as would be used for wing shooting, is difficult to tactically maneuver through a house. I would never suggest leaving the relative safety of an entrenched position to go looking for home intruders, but reality is you may have to move from your room to go protect your children or other family member.

An 18” – 20” barrel is optimal. If you have a shotgun with a longer barrel, you can easily purchase a second barrel that installs in about five minutes. When you get ready to go hunting, simply swap the barrel back. Shotguns are very easy with which to work.

Second Childhood

Length of pull refers to how a long gun fits you. If the size of the shotgun is wrong, you are going to be less accurate and it will be more difficult for you to work the slide and other controls on the gun.

While aftermarket stocks like the Knoxx allow for an adjustable length of pull, another option is to purchase a youth-sized shotgun. These shotguns have a shorter stock for children learning to shoot. The great thing is, these same guns work very well for many women and smaller statured men.

A side benefit for the youth guns is they often times are slightly less expensive than their larger cousins.

Point and Shoot – No Aiming Required

I cringe every time I hear a gun store commando telling a novice shooter “With the scattergun, all ya gots to do is just point it in the general direction and pull the trigger. You ain’t gotta aim.”

Bovine manure. Shotguns come with a sighting system for a reason. At typical house distances (down the hall, across the room), the shot pattern is going to be very tight. If you do not aim, you will miss.

If you don’t believe me, carry your shotgun out to the range and shoot man-sized targets at five yards. The hole it makes will be impressive. But, you will notice that there is very little spread of the pellets. In other words, if you don’t aim, that tight group of pellets is likely go go somewhere other than the intruder.

The Magic of Racking a Shotgun

Another piece of gun store hero advice goes something along the lines of “The sound of a 12 gauge being racked will cause the assailant to wet himself and run, you’ll never have to shoot.”

Much like the previous statement, this piece of ‘wisdom’ is better used for fertilizing vegetables than for self defense.

I’ve spent a significant portion of my adult life dealing with the criminal element. Today’s criminal is a predator who is not scared of a homeowner merely making noise with a shotgun.

If someone comes into your home to do you harm, racking the shotgun will not scare them away. Through rage, socialization or drugs human predators are frequently incapable of feeling fear or compassion. Making noise will not likely stop an attacker. Lead will.

This is My Boomstick

The shotgun offers a lot of advantages for a home defense gun. They offer exceptional stopping power, are relatively inexpensive and they are pretty simple to operate.

However, the shotgun is not a perfect tool. Your circumstances and needs may dictate an alternative weapon to the shotgun. But finding the proper shotgun for your needs and a little planning, the ‘old smoothbore’ can be an extremely effective tool for protecting you and your family.

Effective Tools for Felon Repellant

Remington 870, model 24591 – This is a 12 gauge shotgun built on the famous 870 action, but with a few nice upgrades. From the factory, it comes with the Knoxx recoil reducing stock, a Wilson Combat ghost ring rear sight and a XS front sight post. MSRP $986.

Mossberg 930 Home Security, model 85320 – This 12 gauge is a reasonably priced, reliable semi-auto shotgun. No frills, just business. With a 4+1 capacity, front bead sight and Mossberg ambidextrous safety, this shotgun is easy to run and easy on the wallet. MSRP $612.

Remington 11-87 Sportsman Youth – As a compact, easy shooting shotgun, it is tough to beat the Remington 11-87 Youth. A semi-auto chambered in 20 gauge, this shotgun has a 21” barrel and a adjustable pull of length, meaning you can fit the firearm perfectly for the shooter. MSRP $804.

Federal Power-Shok 20 Gauge, #3 Buck – Full power, yet easier shooting that 12 gauge, these shells load 20 #3 buck pellets and launches them at 1200 fps. The tight patterns mean a devastating impact on any unwanted house guests. Expect to pay around $4.50 for a box of five.

Hornady Critical Defense 12 Gauge 00 Buck – Designed specifically for personal defense, these reduced recoil loads from Hornady feature eight 00 buck pellets moving at 1600 fps. Street price is about $9.50 for a box of 10.
http://www.humanevents.com/2011/03/2...ool-ever-made/

excessive 12-10-2012 09:26 PM

"BOB'S NOT HERE, MAN!"
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That would be Dave. Dave's not here, man.

Dayze 12-10-2012 09:27 PM

I wasn't looking at his neck, man

Saul Good 12-10-2012 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 9198428)
If all you have is a knife and someone with a gun is breaking into your house you need to hide or just gtfo. You bring a knife to a gun fight and you are going to lose.

I am not talking no hollywood bs here. You never, ever want to engage someone in hand-hand if you can avoid it. Most people have no clue of how to use a knife in a fight. And you just might end up getting stabbed with your own knife.

http://www.realclearscience.com/vide...han_a_gun.html

petegz28 12-10-2012 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 9198460)
I wasn't looking at his neck, man

LMAO C&C rep

petegz28 12-10-2012 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9198472)

Dude, we are talking about someone breaking into your house, not approaching you on the street. Purposely engaging someone in hand-hand is just stupid and should always be a last resort.

DeezNutz 12-10-2012 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9198472)

Will the assailant with the knife be required to run and hold the weapon like a bitch? If so, I'm probably cool without a thing.

hometeam 12-10-2012 09:33 PM

As long as there have been guns people have said 'don't bring a knife to a gun fight'.

Please. For the love of god, no one, follow this mans advice about doing so.

Easy 6 12-10-2012 09:33 PM

Yeah, gun please.

Not some suburban rambo "ya git up on him close, ya see"

Saul Good 12-10-2012 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 9198489)
Dude, we are talking about someone breaking into your house, not approaching you on the street. Purposely engaging someone in hand-hand is just stupid and should always be a last resort.

So if somebody tries to break into my house, and I only have a knife, your advice would be for me to hide?

petegz28 12-10-2012 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9198500)
Will the assailant with the knife be required to run and hold the weapon like a bitch? If so, I'm probably cool without a thing.

I don't get what Adam is doing in the video? Is he chambering a round? Turning off the safety? Cocking the pistol?

In58men 12-10-2012 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9198508)
So if somebody tries to break into my house, and I only have a knife, your advice would be for me to hide?

You can't kill somebody just because they kick your door in. You have to be in some sort of life or death situation.

Saul Good 12-10-2012 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 9198510)
I don't get what Adam is doing in the video? Is he chambering a round? Turning off the safety? Cocking the pistol?

He's turning off the safety. Also, the other guy is making zero attempt to juke him.

Dayze 12-10-2012 09:36 PM

in KS you can. Castle Doctrine IIRC

Saul Good 12-10-2012 09:36 PM

Say something that is 100% incorrect.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9198512)
You can't kill somebody just because they kick your door in. You have to be in some sort of life or death situation.

thanks

petegz28 12-10-2012 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9198508)
So if somebody tries to break into my house, and I only have a knife, your advice would be for me to hide?

My advice to you is to get out of the house if possible. Do you know how to use a knife? How are you going to attack him? Keep in mind this has to be self-defense meaing you have to be in a life-threatening situation to begin with.

So guy busts in your door. WTF are you going to do with that knife?

DonkyPuncher 12-10-2012 09:36 PM

Hey man the guy's in Home Alone sport a plumber van

petegz28 12-10-2012 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9198512)
You can't kill somebody just because they kick your door in. You have to be in some sort of life or death situation.

Actually, the second someone enters your house illegally you can drop them. Them being in your house has threatened your life. But, he has to in the house.

petegz28 12-10-2012 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9198516)
He's turning off the safety. Also, the other guy is making zero attempt to juke him.

That's a ****ed up safety and thus a bad choice for a firearm for self-defense. On my pistol I can drop the safety and fire in one motion. Or you by a Sig that doesn't even have a safety. :thumb:

Dayze 12-10-2012 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9198500)
Will the assailant with the knife be required to run and hold the weapon like a bitch? If so, I'm probably cool without a thing.



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In58men 12-10-2012 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 9198531)
Actually, the second someone enters your house illegally you can drop them. Them being in your house has threatened your life. But, he has to in the house.

If you are in fear of your life or in fear of the life of another person you can legally protect yourself by any reasonable and prudent means. Generally speaking you just can't shoot someone that just walks into your home uninvited. You must have a strong reason to believe that this person is going to do you bodily harm. You can be prosecuted for using "excessive force" for over reacting.


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