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RunKC 04-01-2013 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9547230)
What really sucks about this draft and where we are, is that there isn't really a player that a.) is really worth the first pick and b.) really fits in and would start where we currently sit right now.


Floyd maybe, but a DL that isn't dominant in the pass rush department at 1 is risky. But, I guess so is everyone else.

Personally, I'd rather have a OLB pass rusher or Richardson than Floyd.
Joeckel, Fisher and Jordan are every bit worth the #1 pick IMO.

O.city 04-01-2013 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9547406)
Joeckel, Fisher and Jordan are every bit worth the #1 pick IMO.
Thing is, if we are gonna hold the QB class up to last years class to be worth the first pick, don't we have to hold the other positions up to that?

Is Jordan a Von Miller type guy? Don't see it.


Like I said in a previous post in regards to the LT, there seems to be some rhetoric out there about who's actually the best one. If thats the case, I don't see how you can make the case that ANY of the 3 are worth the first pick.


DoNow don't take this as me saying none of these guys could or wouldn't be taken first, but to sit there and say anyone in this class that will go in the top 10 per say isn't a mere mid to late first rounder in a normal draft is pretty tough to do.

Pasta Little Brioni 04-01-2013 06:31 PM
There is always a difference O. One of those LT's will probably be a Pro Bowler, one average, and the other a scrub. It's the same shit every year.

O.city 04-01-2013 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9547415)
There is always a difference O. One of those LT's will probably be a Pro Bowler, one average, and the other a scrub. It's the same shit every year.
With the use of hindsight, sure, one will separate. But we don't have hindsight right now.


As prospects, which all these guys have to be viewed as at this point, they all 3 have flaws and you don't have a consensus that this guy is "the guy".

notorious 04-01-2013 06:35 PM
I don't have any idea why Joeckel is going to be #1. His flaws were obviously cloaked by amazing QB play.

RunKC 04-01-2013 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9547411)
Thing is, if we are gonna hold the QB class up to last years class to be worth the first pick, don't we have to hold the other positions up to that?

Is Jordan a Von Miller type guy? Don't see it.


Like I said in a previous post in regards to the LT, there seems to be some rhetoric out there about who's actually the best one. If thats the case, I don't see how you can make the case that ANY of the 3 are worth the first pick.


DoNow don't take this as me saying none of these guys could or wouldn't be taken first, but to sit there and say anyone in this class that will go in the top 10 per say isn't a mere mid to late first rounder in a normal draft is pretty tough to do.
Dion Jordan is not as good of pass rusher as Von, but he can do things better than him, like defend the pass, which is so important in today's NFL.

I think Dion Jordan is going to be a beast at the next level. And he's just getting started too.

I think he's going to be a double-digit sack artist for many years. IMO that's well worth the #1 pick in this draft.

B14ckmon 04-01-2013 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9547424)
I don't have any idea why Joeckel is going to be #1. His flaws were obviously cloaked by amazing QB play.
Do you realize how much of a bitch it is blocking for a QB that runs around that much? Manziel will just run to run, even when he has receivers open.

Pasta Little Brioni 04-01-2013 06:40 PM
Run, I would take a 3rd pass rusher any day over a damn Tackle, so I agree.

Pasta Little Brioni 04-01-2013 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9547435)
Do you realize how much of a bitch it is blocking for a QB that runs around that much? Manziel will just run to run, even when he has receivers open.
Sounds like you have a crush on dough boy.

TribalElder 04-01-2013 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9547435)
Do you realize how much of a bitch it is blocking for a QB that runs around that much? Manziel will just run to run, even when he has receivers open.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0...3h4fo1_400.gif
I see you peekin

O.city 04-01-2013 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9547432)
Dion Jordan is not as good of pass rusher as Von, but he can do things better than him, like defend the pass, which is so important in today's NFL.

I think Dion Jordan is going to be a beast at the next level. And he's just getting started too.

I think he's going to be a double-digit sack artist for many years. IMO that's well worth the #1 pick in this draft.
Well thats not really based on anything he's done, it's projecting. Something you jump on guys for doing with other players, so lets not go there.


You are essentially taking a guy with the first pick in the whole draft based on potential. Not potential plus production, but potential. He will have to develop a pass rush. He has some at this point, but not much. I do think it's easier for an OLB to develop those than say a DL who hasn't shown the ability to do that in college.

I don't mind taking Jordan, wouldn't mind the pick at all.

But there isn't a player in this draft that is "well worth the first pick".

B14ckmon 04-01-2013 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9547439)
Sounds like you have a crush on dough boy.
Who wouldn't?

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O.city 04-01-2013 06:44 PM
And I'll say that while I like Jordan and Ansah, I'm not sure but that Mingo doesn't have a higher than both.

I have some questions as to whether Ansah can play OLB and be in space.

Mother****erJones 04-01-2013 06:45 PM
Its Jordan if theyre thinking pass rusher

Hog's Gone Fishin 04-01-2013 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9547435)
Do you realize how much of a bitch it is blocking for a QB that runs around that much? Manziel will just run to run, even when he has receivers open.
He ran right into the Heisman trophy too you dumbass


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