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Dante84 04-26-2019 07:26 PM

*****The Juan Thornhill Thread*****
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Excitement level �� when <a href="https://twitter.com/Juan_Thornhill?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Juan_Thornhill</a> got the call. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLDraft?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLDraft</a> | April 26-27 | ABC, ESPN, NFL Network <a href="https://t.co/JVxVvPVH3m">pic.twitter.com/JVxVvPVH3m</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs/status/1121974309470208000?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 27, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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Munson 04-26-2019 07:26 PM

First!

In58men 04-26-2019 07:27 PM

**** yeah!!!!

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 04-26-2019 07:27 PM

This franchise is obsessed with tweener DBs

Iconic 04-26-2019 07:27 PM

this made up for the first one. im VERY HAPPY AGAIN YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!

Skyy God 04-26-2019 07:27 PM

Hell yes!!

Bump 04-26-2019 07:28 PM

ESPN says hes a CB, NFL network says hes a safety. I don't know! But both postitions are needed so cool!

KC_Lee 04-26-2019 07:28 PM

Quick , someone search his Twiter feed and see if he said anything "unwoke" when he was 13.

wazu 04-26-2019 07:28 PM

LOVE IT!!!!

pugsnotdrugs19 04-26-2019 07:29 PM

Amazing night

ChiefaRoo 04-26-2019 07:29 PM

Bye bye Sorensen.

MightyMouse 04-26-2019 07:29 PM

Love it. Love it. Love it.

Jewish Rabbi 04-26-2019 07:29 PM

I’M THORNY

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 04-26-2019 07:30 PM

So ****ing stoked!

In58men 04-26-2019 07:30 PM

1st round: Frank Clark

2nd round: Mecole Hardman

2nd round: Juan Thornhill


Wow guys!!!!

Pitt Gorilla 04-26-2019 07:30 PM

Need TE, OL.

Any desire to trade up for Metcalf?!?

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-26-2019 07:30 PM

Seems like the kind of guy you'd want covering TEs and in a big nickel.

Bump 04-26-2019 07:30 PM

Apparently he was a high school basketball star too

smithandrew051 04-26-2019 07:31 PM

Hard to argue with either of these picks

Tribal Warfare 04-26-2019 07:31 PM

I wonder what Veach sees him as a CB or Safety

carcosa 04-26-2019 07:31 PM

IM HORNY AS HELL FOR THORNHILL!!!

frozenchief 04-26-2019 07:32 PM

Duane Brugler, from the Athletic, rated him #5 safety in draft. Projected him at about #49, so it wasnt a reach for him. Brugler's take:

BACKGROUND: A three-star athlete recruit out of high school, Juan Thornhill is one of the best athletes to ever come out of Altavista, leading the high school to five state championships in three seasons (three in basketball, two in football). He played quarterback on offense and posted 1,299 passing yards and 1,562 rushing yards as a senior, adding five interceptions as a safety on defense. On the basketball court, Thornhill recorded over 1,000 career points and made SportsCenter with his high-flying dunks. He received scholarship offers to play collegiate basketball, but he chose football. Ranked as an “athlete” recruit, he was the No. 22 player in the state and committed to Virginia (his first offer) as a safety prior to his junior season, subsequently shutting down his recruitment. He played both cornerback and safety over his collegiate career. Thornhill accepted his invitation to the 2019 Senior Bowl.
STRENGTHS: Long, rangy size...smooth shuffle and clean redirection in space...comfortable in man-to-man, using physicality and contact balance to attach and ride patterns...recognizes route concepts and has the diagnosis abilities of a former quarterback...flashes the reaction quickness to drive and undercut routes...above- average tracking, judgement and ball skills (his 13 career interceptions rank sixth-best in school history)...averaged 13.6 yards per interception return (13/177/0)...doesn’t lack for toughness as a tackler and takes proper pursuit angles...graduated with his bachelor’s degree (December 2018)...versatile experience with 36 starts spread between cornerback (22) and safety (14).
WEAKNESSES: Lanky and lacks a prototypical build for an NFL safety...lacks twitchy turn-and-run skills...not a burner...inconsistent take-on skills downhill...doesn’t back down as a tackler, but arrives hot and needs to improve his strike zone...overly patient with his reads and would like to see him take more chances...grabby downfield, attracting holding calls.
SUMMARY: A three-year starter at Virginia, Thornhill arrived in Charlottesville as a safety before moving outside to corner his sophomore and junior seasons. He moved to the “Sabre” strong safety position as a senior and led the team in tackles (98) and interceptions (6), playing everywhere from nickel to single-high to linebacker (showed he can just as easily press as he can play from deep positioning). Thornhill, who wears No. 21 for Sean Taylor, doesn’t play as fast as he timed, but he has a smooth lower body and doesn’t get off-balance in his movements. He has plus anticipation and ball skills, but will take the worst of hits when his tackling technique isn’t perfect. Overall, Thornhill is more smooth than sudden, which causes him to be a beat late at times, but his instincts, field range and roster versatility are strong selling points, projecting as a high alignment safety who can walk down and cover slot receivers.


I took out his stats because it was really hard to transfer the format.

Pitt Gorilla 04-26-2019 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 14235078)
Need TE, OL.

Any desire to trade up for Metcalf?!?

Never mind.

warrior 04-26-2019 07:33 PM

Love this pick

Munson 04-26-2019 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 14235084)
I wonder what Veach sees him as a CB or Safety

I'm going with FS.

jonzie04 04-26-2019 07:36 PM

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Pff guy says he might be the best FS in this draft, and says a team might try him at CB.

staylor26 04-26-2019 07:36 PM

Veach having a great night IMO

Iconic 04-26-2019 07:36 PM

hes 100% a safety, playing fs for us this year. he's like Mathieu in that he's interchangeable at both spots. truly a great pick that i think can become a hofer tbh

In58men 04-26-2019 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14235106)
Veach having a great night IMO

I agree

Bump 04-26-2019 07:37 PM

ok I've seen some highlight videos, I like this pick. He's gonna start day 1 on the other side of the badger at safety. He looks like he plays the ball and is strong. I like it.

Simply Red 04-26-2019 07:37 PM

I don't know much about Thornhill - But if Adderley was there, why didn't we take him? - I missed about ten mins - did N Adderley go?

Aspengc8 04-26-2019 07:38 PM

good athlete

stumppy 04-26-2019 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 14235076)
1st round: Frank Clark

2nd round: Mecole Hardman

2nd round: Juan Thornhill


Wow guys!!!!

Hell Yes!

Redbled 04-26-2019 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 14235114)
I don't know much about Thornhill - But if Adderley was there, why didn't we take him? - I missed about ten mins - did N Adderley go?


Adderly was gone.

Could have had him at 56 though.

Munson 04-26-2019 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 14235114)
I don't know much about Thornhill - But if Adderley was there, why didn't we take him? - I missed about ten mins - did N Adderley go?

The Chargers took Adderly at #60.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 04-26-2019 07:40 PM

Picked off Daniel Jones 4 times!!

Bump 04-26-2019 07:41 PM

so this is basically what we traded Peters for right and last years 4th or something. I think its gonna end up being a good deal for us.

carcosa 04-26-2019 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14235106)
Veach having a great night IMO

Yip

TambaBerry 04-26-2019 07:44 PM

DUDE I LOVE THIS PICK!!!!!

Prison Bitch 04-26-2019 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 14235131)
so this is basically what we traded Peters for right and last years 4th or something. I think its gonna end up being a good deal for us.

Guaranteed it will

He will make a pro bowl one day. Mark it down.

Naptown Chief 04-26-2019 07:50 PM

I'm pleased with this selection.

Tribal Warfare 04-26-2019 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 14235109)
hes 100% a safety, playing fs for us this year. he's like Mathieu in that he's interchangeable at both spots. truly a great pick that i think can become a hofer tbh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Munson (Post 14235095)
I'm going with FS.

Well, I assume Armani Watts broke his dick so bad that the mother****ier is pissing out of his sphincter

BigRedChief 04-26-2019 07:55 PM

Later Sorensen

GoHuge 04-26-2019 07:55 PM

This guy plays the run like DJ and EB when they were in their primes.

ChiTown 04-26-2019 07:56 PM

I LOVE this pick. Dude is a freak athlete.

*giddy*

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-26-2019 08:01 PM

Hopefully a little of both. Packages, packages, packages!

Iconic 04-26-2019 08:01 PM

To put this pick into perspective: It's so good it could have been the only pick we made in this draft and we would have gotten an A+

I'm so hyped for this season now.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 04-26-2019 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 14235174)
Later Sorensen

After Reid’s press conference a couple mins ago... nope. Reid said Thornhill can play all over the field along with Mathieu and Sorenson

Prison Bitch 04-26-2019 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 14235181)
I LOVE this pick. Dude is a freak athlete.

*giddy*

I’d have gladly taken him 29 had we kept it.

hometeam 04-26-2019 08:03 PM

Awesome pick here, I think this guy can ball out of control on this team, a near perfect pairing with honey badger. I am extremely pleased with the defensive moves we have been making after I was a little bit worried after releasing Berry and Houston

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-26-2019 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 14235174)
Later Sorensen

Feels good to say, doesn't it?

Also, does this mean we never have to hear the words "Ron" or "Parker" ever again? 'Cause I'm very good with that.

kcclone 04-26-2019 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14235204)
After Reid’s press conference a couple mins ago... nope. Reid said Thornhill can play all over the field along with Mathieu and Sorenson


Yeah I think Spaggs will like Sorenson.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 04-26-2019 08:10 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Juan Thornhill said he&#39;s excited to be headed to Kansas City. Said he thought he might land in the first round, so having to wait through tonight was difficult.</p>&mdash; Matt Derrick (@mattderrick) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattderrick/status/1121959363776794625?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 27, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Prison Bitch 04-26-2019 08:11 PM

If I am Reid, I break camp with him startling alongside Matthieu

-King- 04-26-2019 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 14235240)
If I am Reid, I break camp with him startling alongside Matthieu

I'm sure that's the plan. I don't think anyone would be startled if it happened.

Dante84 04-26-2019 08:15 PM

dude I'm still high on Watts too.... our secondary won't be too bad if we can fill that void at CB

BigRedChief 04-26-2019 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14235236)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Juan Thornhill said he&#39;s excited to be headed to Kansas City. Said he thought he might land in the first round, so having to wait through tonight was difficult.</p>&mdash; Matt Derrick (@mattderrick) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattderrick/status/1121959363776794625?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 27, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This is a prime example of what everyone said was a “deep” defensive draft. He would have been a 1st rounder some years, correct?

Prison Bitch 04-26-2019 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 14235254)
This is a prime example of what everyone said was a “deep” defensive draft. He would have been a 1st rounder some years, correct?

True ^

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 04-26-2019 08:26 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There are 32 teams and 31 will regret not taking me‼️</p>&mdash; The_Juan_And_Only (@Juan_Thornhill) <a href="https://twitter.com/Juan_Thornhill/status/1120871561735680002?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 24, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 04-26-2019 08:27 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">On God y’all gone feel me!!!!</p>&mdash; The_Juan_And_Only (@Juan_Thornhill) <a href="https://twitter.com/Juan_Thornhill/status/1121947085484580865?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 27, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Dante84 04-26-2019 09:20 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Excitement level �� when <a href="https://twitter.com/Juan_Thornhill?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Juan_Thornhill</a> got the call. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLDraft?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLDraft</a> | April 26-27 | ABC, ESPN, NFL Network <a href="https://t.co/JVxVvPVH3m">pic.twitter.com/JVxVvPVH3m</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs/status/1121974309470208000?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 27, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

RunKC 04-26-2019 09:39 PM

God I love this kid. He has everything we could want.

Height, weight, speed, versatility to play everywhere.

13 INT’s 26 passes defended and 12 TFL’s.

Dude is gonna make a day 1 impact

TambaBerry 04-26-2019 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14235577)
God I love this kid. He has everything we could want.

Height, weight, speed, versatility to play everywhere.

13 INT’s 26 passes defended and 12 TFL’s.

Dude is gonna make a day 1 impact

Dude **** yeah, he was my favorite safety. I went on a progression from adderley to gardner johnson to him I honestly thought he would have been a 1st rounder

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 04-26-2019 09:43 PM

I wanted this guy in the first. And we got him in the second!! Veach I love you

Chris Meck 04-26-2019 09:45 PM

Excellent pick.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 04-26-2019 09:49 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Good stuff from <a href="https://twitter.com/Juan_Thornhill?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Juan_Thornhill</a>. <a href="https://t.co/XZUalGtiXQ">https://t.co/XZUalGtiXQ</a></p>&mdash; BJ Kissel (@ChiefsReporter) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsReporter/status/1121981803651391488?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 27, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

jonzie04 04-26-2019 10:01 PM

The more i watch him play, and the more i learn about him the more i Love him. God damn this was an excellent pick!

Simply Red 04-26-2019 10:05 PM

Day 2 Grades

Bump 04-26-2019 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 14235518)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Excitement level �� when <a href="https://twitter.com/Juan_Thornhill?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Juan_Thornhill</a> got the call. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLDraft?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLDraft</a> | April 26-27 | ABC, ESPN, NFL Network <a href="https://t.co/JVxVvPVH3m">pic.twitter.com/JVxVvPVH3m</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs/status/1121974309470208000?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 27, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Andy Reid: Are you healthy?..........Are you healthy?

that's concerning

MVChiefFan 04-26-2019 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 14235712)
Andy Reid: Are you healthy?..........Are you healthy?

that's concerning

I think that’s just something Reid always asks. There was a bunch of noise and celebrating on the other end of the phone and I think he kept asking Reid what he said. Then it just became uncomfortable for Reid and he couldn’t do anything but keep asking.

carcosa 04-26-2019 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoHuge (Post 14235178)
This guy plays the run like DJ and EB when they were in their primes.

That give me a Big Horny Boner!!

kccrow 04-26-2019 10:50 PM

I could not be more stoked that the Chiefs took this kid. I legitimately thought he was going round 1 and would end up in Seattle to replace Thomas. I've wanted this kid for a while and thought he became out of reach. I'm less than stoked about the other two picks, but this one makes up for it.

CasselGotPeedOn 04-26-2019 10:51 PM

Like this guy I do. He football very good.

BryanBusby 04-26-2019 10:53 PM

Tried to say they didn't need to burn a 1 on a safety. Didn't think they would take one, but getting him at 63 is fantastic.

No complaints.

BigRedChief 04-26-2019 11:03 PM

From the Athletic:
The Chiefs go with Juan Thornhill, a selection has Steve Spagnuolo written all over it. Andy Reid essentially just confirmed that Juan Thornhill & Tyrann Mathieu can both be versatile in the back end of the secondary. He says both players can be interchangeable per situation of the game & scheme. Thornhill wants to play football so badly that he basically said he’ll play every position in the secondary & be the Chiefs’ kicker if needed.” —Nate Taylor

Pablo 04-26-2019 11:18 PM

Dude my boner is ****ing enormous for this guy. And I didn't give too much of shit about him 5 hours ago. Just listening to his mindset will show you that we've got a stud back there for a while. His tape is good too.

Best22 04-26-2019 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 14235802)
Dude my boner is ****ing enormous for this guy. And I didn't give too much of shit about him 5 hours ago. Just listening to his mindset will show you that we've got a ****ing stud back there for a while. His tape is good too.

I was shocked we got him.

I thought he’d go earlier

BossChief 04-26-2019 11:38 PM

Looks like Reid/Veach are trying to get their new Brian Dawkins, Desean Jackson and Fletcher Cox.

They may have done it.

redshirt32 04-26-2019 11:38 PM

I never researched any draft prospects this year.
After reviewing Juan's film, id say we have db who can actually make a tackle for once.
Looks like a ball hawk, and looks like he should have been picked early 2nd or late first time will tell... great value late 2nd for sure

BryanBusby 04-26-2019 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 14235782)
From the Athletic:
The Chiefs go with Juan Thornhill, a selection has Steve Spagnuolo written all over it. Andy Reid essentially just confirmed that Juan Thornhill & Tyrann Mathieu can both be versatile in the back end of the secondary. He says both players can be interchangeable per situation of the game & scheme. Thornhill wants to play football so badly that he basically said he’ll play every position in the secondary & be the Chiefs’ kicker if needed.” —Nate Taylor

That's the kind of dude you want


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