****Official **** You Mike Mayock Thread**** (OP UPDATED)
 

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The Kansas City Chiefs need a quarterback, but there aren't any this season that look like a top-ten talent, much less a No. 1 overall pick.

The way Mike Mayock sees it, the Chiefs should be looking to the offensive line for their first overall pick. And there are only four players worth the No. 1 overall pick in this draft for Kansas City: Alabama guard Chance Warmack, UNC guard Jonathan Cooper, Texas A&M tackle Luke Joekel, or Central Michigan tackle Eric Fisher.

Mayock said on a conference call Monday that some people will say he's crazy to potentially take a guard at No. 1 overall, but Mayock says Warmack is the best player in this draft. So he doesn't see it as crazy at all.

In the end, Mayock believes the pick could come down to Joekel or Warmack. This is a draft where the top-shelf players don't stand apart too much, and there may not be a huge difference between picks 5 and 25. That makes it a tricky spot for the Chiefs.

Don't be surprised if Kansas City builds from the inside out, and finds their quarterback of the future later.



He gives the Chiefs 4 options at #1 and they're all offensive lineman? Go **** yourself bro

@Jacobs71: Here is what Mayock said on #Chiefs pick in full "Well, part of it depends on what they're going to do with free agency and Branden Albert."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I think the answer to that, obviously, is going to give you the answer. Sitting where they are, let's face it, they need a QB."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"We don't know that there are a lot of people who think Geno Smith is in that ballpark."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I don't, but there are a lot of people that think he should be considered."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"When you look at what they're going to do, what are they going to do with Dwayne Bowe?"

@Jacobs71: Mayock:" Whoever the quarterback is, they need a wide receiver. And I think John Dorsey has to be thinking what is the big picture here?"

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I've got one, and I've got 34. What is the best combination of getting the most value out of that?"

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"And I think that offensive lineman at 1 is the most solid guy they can go with."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I don't care whether it's Warmack or Joeckel. People will tell me I'm crazy that a guard can't go No. 1."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I think he's the best player in the draft, so I would argue that."


@Jacobs71: Mayock:" But either way, I think they've got to get an offensive lineman and come back at 33 and prepare to go with a QB or WR."

@Jacobs71: When I asked Mayock about who fits Reid's system at QB: " I think Matt Barkley makes a lot of sense."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:" He's a guy as a junior at USC looked so much different than he did this year."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"With Landry Jones and Tyler Wilson, I think all three of those guys you have to go back and watch junior tape. "

@Jacobs71: Mayock:" So I think Barkley fits what he does. I think Ryan Nassib fits what he does."


@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I think Landry Jones and Tyler Wilson both can fit what he does."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"So of those, that group of guys of the top seven, eight quarterbacks, I think those are the guys that did it most efficiently."

I honestly want to start another thread repeating this and just deal with the re-post police for it.

It is impossible to overstate how ****ing stupid this entire conversation is.

Great. I have to hate Mike Mayock now. !@#$

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Love Maycock. One of the better guys in the business.

Not 1 guard but TWO?

Has a guard ever gone #1 overall?

And now there's TWO worth that pick?

I hope Jacksonville takes a guard with the #2 pick.

I like Mayock.

And ultimately, I at least understand the rationale behind a Joeckel pick, even if it is horrifically misguided.

However, Chance ****ing Warmack and even worse - Jonathan Cooper!?!?!

WTF kind of idiocy is that? Is there any justification for a team taking Jonathan Cooper over Dee Milliner when they're running Javier Arenas out there as a starter? No - there is none. And that's setting aside the very easy QB argument or the fact that we don't presently have a complete D-Line and yes, Lotulelei will be a good player in this league.

Setting aside the bad options, he's still offering worse options. Incredible. Yet here this idiot is trying to use that insane "best player for his position" in the draft argument as though we would be wise to take a punter if he could routinely drill it 70 yards.

These guys just have too much time to fill anymore so they start saying shit that makes no sense.

Nah that won't happen. Pass rusher for sure.

Anyone who quotes mayock from now on loses all credibility.

I've already resigned myself to the fact that we will not be drafting QB 1-1. OKay, so who might be available at 2-1?

Why do you/did you like Mayock? Dude talks like a 2-year old with a bunch of dicks in his mouth.

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Who cares? We need to take 4 olinemen

This is where my mind is starting to take me as well.

If we drafted a guard with the first overall pick, I would murder someone.

So if picks 1-25 are all about the same, and he projects Barkley and Geno at about 20, ..........


If all picks are the same, why woudl you not take the biggest need?

You know what? I'd rather draft a guard at 1 than let Albert walk and take Joeckel.

At least then we're ****ing filling a need with a legit good player instead of a guy who's not even close to a generational talent.

That's how ****ing bad this shit is.

QB or GTFO.

**** this offseason. I can go from treating fap wounds with A&D to pissing on my own balls in a matter threads.

This is all you had to say.

OG is a need? KC JUST drafted Allen and Asomoah and they could slide Hudson from Center to Guard if they want to.

WTF are you talking about need??
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Ah, all it'll take to change this tune is for one of the QBs to perform well at the combine. There's late risers every year.

Yep.

We clearly need to take OL with all of our picks, even the compensatory ones.

It's THAT important.

Allen sucked as a rookie. Hudson could slide over, but then they wouldn't have a center.

Look, I'm all in favor of sticking with Albert Allen Hudson Asamoah and Winston. But if we're talking about acquiring fatties at #1, I will take the best one, and not one that has artificial value because of the position he plays.

Either way, let's just say offensive line at #1 is a complete and utter failure. Maycock may go suck a cock.

Say it ain't so, Mike!

I still like the guy... I'm just going to chalk this up as a shitty draft and he was tired and on cold medicine when he wrote this.

You misspelled 'Milliner'.

Mayock doesn't think a G is going 1. He's just matching BPA comments with what he thinks is the best player regardless of position. It's going to be a more premium position. No need for a thread hating Mayock. Jeez, the draft is two months away, everyone has plenty of time to freak out, say you're no longer Chiefs fans, calm down, freak out again, say you hope draftnik X gets hit with the aids tree, or whatever, relax again, hate the FA signings, drink, and finally come to the conclusion Reid and Dorsey are worse than SP and Crennel. Pace yourselves.

Taking a guard at 1, would put them up there pretty close.

No.

And no corner, either, for those mentioning Milliner.

QB seems like the obvious pick.

I will say, though, I would rather they took Warmack than Star if they are going to go with a fatty.

If they're going to take a lineman, he better DOMINATE - man among boys - from day 1. Warmack has a much better chance of being that then either Joeckel or Star.

Warmack is real good, great feet. But Joeckel is a damn technician at LT. He's worthy of the #1.

Warmack also has tremendous lower body strength and can dominate the guy in front of him physically.

Joeckel is a fine pass blocker. Against the run, or drive blocking, he lacks top end strength.

Eric Fisher is a better all-around LT prospect but Joeckel is being ranked higher because of his pass blocking upside.

Joeckel isn't a complete prospect and isn't worth the #1 overall pick.

I will ****ing blow something up if we take any kind of lineman with the #1 pick.

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well ok then.

lame fyp is lame.

It would be funny to see the Chiefs draft party if this went down. If taking Poe last year got that reaction, taking a G would be epic meltdown.

Put a percentage on how likely it is they take a G?

If they're all about BPA and value, pretty high.

That's F-ing ludacris the notion of taking a Guard #1 overall.

Next to FB, there isn't a position of less importance.

I'll start 0%.

well shit.
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I say 10% or less. Andy Reid isn't reeruned.

Then what are they taking?

Too high.

QB, LT, DL

And neither one will be largely responsible for winning games on the next level.

If the Chiefs take a G or LT at #1, it would be funny if everyone at the draft party stood up and left.

I'm not sure Star has a place on the team either. He seems like a 4-3 DT, not a 3-4 DE. I haven't seem anything that really projects him to a NT in a 3-4 either and we just took Poe at #11 last year (I suppose they could move Poe to DE).

I'm not an expert or anything, but Star reminds me of Stephen Paea, who the Bears took in the second round a couple of years ago. A nice DT but not worth the #1 pick by any means.

I just don't see a DL worth that pick, especially if you think a QB isn't worth it.


If they re sign Albert, I'd say it's pretty much a lock we are taking a Qb there.

we'll draft Womack, move him to LT; sign Albert and put him back at his natural position at Guard. / True Fan.

They'll tack Millner before Warmack.

He took a 28 year old guard in the first round a couple years ago.

Star is Tyson Jackson part 2. **** him.

Not with the #1 pick.

I just can't get on board with Milliner

Or, and if it could work I'd like it, trade down, although I think most teams don't love anyone either.

Like 23rd overall. Not even close to a similar situation.

If we could say, trade down to 4 with Philly, get Foles and some picks, and then take Milliner, that would be ideal but it would be INFINITELY better than some of the alternatives being discussed.

At 23. And he was 26.

A guard #1 overall? LMAO

Can't wait to see what Stanzi or a reduced paycheck Cassel can do with either Joeckel or Womack blocking for him! /:drool:

What a dumbass statement.

I think draftperts hate years like this when there isn't a clear #1. There are so many of them, and they want to have all their bases covered, that we're gonna hear 100 different predictions. Just learn to filter out the crap. This is crap.

What's crazy is Pioli actually would have thought just that.

**** me.

Warmack isn't even the best guard on his team (depending upon what position Barrett Jones wants to kick ass at at any given time), and going into this season wasn't even remotely considered a first rounder. Now he's a generational guy who is worthy of the first pick in the draft?!

These ****ing guys are so ****ing dumb...

I wonder if they ever considered that Warmack was lined up next to/in-between Jones and Fluker, the two guys who were more highly rated than Warmack going into this season, this past season and that might have helped him out just a bit? Once Jones moved into the center position, it's amazing how good Warmack became at right guard.

This Alabama offensive line is going to end up like the Mario Williams getting the rest of the NC State defensive line players drafted and having them all look like shit once they had to stand on their own. Or do you guys remember this one dude who played next to this guy named Julius Peppers in college that also got overdrafted like a mofo?

And, secondly, didn't we just draft two first team All Americans/Walter Camps in Asamoah and Rod Hudson? Didn't we pick up Allen in the second round last year to play guard? And these pricks think that we need to take another guard? With the first overall pick? Holy ****ing stupidity batman.

It's becoming clearer and clearer we are not drafting a qb in the first. Take a deep breath.

He does a lot of nice things but he isn't close to being an elite CB prospect ala Peterson IMO.

"Joe Flacco is an early to mid-round QB prospect", then suddenly on draft day "Flacco is a 1st round guy with great upside."

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Shut that whore mouth.

My first and only comment on this whole thing:
Alex Smith will be our next QB. Bank on it.
Flame away if you wish. But it's good as done.

Actually, I think it's getting foggier and foggier. Thank you draftperts!

ROFL

I'm kind of enjoying media trolling you over reactionary sky is falling mother ****ers.

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Actually, if we do in fact re sign Albert, with looking at all the other options necessary, I think Qb is becoming more likely the pick.

Yeah, because the potential of doing the same ****ing thing that brought 40 years of failure is so ****ing hilarious. Hardy har har.

Yeah.

Watching fellow fans squirm is better than watching the CHIEFS WIN.

The media hates KC. They want us to suffer. They think it's funny.

And then after we take Warmack #1 overall Geno will be selected by Oakland only to followed up with "The Raiders make a franchise changing selection by taking the best quarterback on the board in Geno Smith. He's a leader and has the intangibles you look for in a franchise quarterback. Good pick by Oakland." - Kiper.

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It won't be popular, but coming out of this draft with Warmack, CB of choice, and Wilson in round 3 would be pretty good.


We all like Wilson so that wouldn't be a bad thing.