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Mr. Laz 05-01-2013 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 9648704)
No need to be rude, just stating the truth.

you started the rude, so you should expect it back

Bowser 05-01-2013 11:30 AM

This makes as much sense as that time we drafted Kris Wilson in the second round.

Cannibal 05-01-2013 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 9648707)
WTF you talkin bout, Tony Richardson!

Loved him too. But Anders would excel as a receiver in this offense!

nychief 05-01-2013 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 9648704)
No need to be rude, just stating the truth.

Sorry... it is just boring...polarizing rhetorical device. It frustrates me. that being said, don't think anybody is pounding their chest over this nonmove.

ShowtimeSBMVP 05-01-2013 11:36 AM

Kent Somers ‏@kentsomers 4m

Source confirms #azcardinals receive CB Javier Arenas from KC. Arenas, Sherman must pass physicals

Mr. Laz 05-01-2013 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9648725)
Kent Somers ‏@kentsomers 4m

Source confirms #azcardinals receive CB Javier Arenas from KC. Arenas, Sherman must pass physicals

holy ****ing shit



**** you, Dorsey ... you dumbass POS

Buehler445 05-01-2013 11:38 AM

God I hope we got picks back.

ct 05-01-2013 11:39 AM

Javier Arenas - DB - Cardinals
Cardinals acquired CB Javier Arenas from the Chiefs in exchange for FB Anthony Sherman.

damnit man! not in your plans, fine, but geezus dont give him away!

Canofbier 05-01-2013 11:39 AM

I'm hoping that there's more to this trade, because otherwise we got royally screwed.

Bootlegged 05-01-2013 11:40 AM

Trading a 5th CB for a Special Teams ace / Starting FB.

I like it.


Flowers
Smith
Robinson
Commings (CB/S/Nickel)
Arenas (who gives a shit - bye)

Mr. Laz 05-01-2013 11:40 AM

Reid/Dorsey suck at trading and should just stop

Fish 05-01-2013 11:40 AM

Dammit John!

:cuss:

nychief 05-01-2013 11:40 AM

what is the money difference?

Honey Badger and the Dead Turtle in the same D.

Buehler445 05-01-2013 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 9648731)
God I hope we got picks back.

It bears repeating....

siberian khatru 05-01-2013 11:42 AM

What is this obsession with fullbacks? It's like hanging on to your VHS collection.

BlackHelicopters 05-01-2013 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 9648490)
Awesome. We acquired a FB from ourselves. That should cost us nothing, right?

We also we acquired Jeff Blackshear in the same transaction.

Mr. Laz 05-01-2013 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bootlegged (Post 9648736)
Trading a 5th CB for a Special Teams ace / Starting FB.

I like it.


Flowers
Smith
Robinson
Commings (CB/S/Nickel)
Arenas (who gives a shit - bye)

your an idiot


when something goes wrong with Robinson and we have to run Jalil Brown out there again, i want you to remember this post and walk out into oncoming traffic on the nearest highway.

The Franchise 05-01-2013 11:43 AM

:facepalm:

Jesus Christ...

Strongside 05-01-2013 11:45 AM

Don't care about the trade. Just glad Arenas is gone. Guy contributed nothing. Sure, he had decent PR yardage averages...how many TD's did he score? Oh yeah...none.

His coverage was God-awful for the most part.

Bye.

ShowtimeSBMVP 05-01-2013 11:46 AM

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 25s

Arenas agent Hadley Engelhard: "This is a trade based on KC's acquisitions at CB, we were actively pursuing. We're happy it's to Cardinals."



Arenas didn't wanna be here

nychief 05-01-2013 11:47 AM

don't forget about Menzie...

WhawhaWhat 05-01-2013 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9648668)
I HIGHLY doubt that was the only other option, but nice straw man.

If they had a better option right now than trading for a fullback, don't you think they would have taken it?

Straw man my ass.

Strongside 05-01-2013 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9648760)
Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 25s

Arenas agent Hadley Engelhard: "This is a trade based on KC's acquisitions at CB, we were actively pursuing. We're happy it's to Cardinals."



Arenas didn't wanna be here

Good. Peace, homes.

ShowtimeSBMVP 05-01-2013 11:49 AM

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 12s

Had always heard #Chiefs GM John Dorsey likes taller corners. Look at FA (Sean Smith), draft (Sanders Commings) & Arenas trade for proof

ILChief 05-01-2013 11:51 AM

Nice pick, Pioli

Now I'm sure the Internet gm's will say arenas is awesome

keg in kc 05-01-2013 11:51 AM

Always good to get something for nothing, even if it's a FB. And by 'nothing' I mean a trade instead of just releasing him.

Cannibal 05-01-2013 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 9648589)
Arenas is actually a Top 10 punt returner, is he not?

And you're dead-right about him excelling as a starting corner last year.

Arenas is overrated as a punt returner.

The only reason he'd be in the top 10 is because he's consistent and doesn't lose yards. However, he never breaks anything open either. He doesn't have many long returns either.

durtyrute 05-01-2013 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9648773)
Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 12s

Had always heard #Chiefs GM John Dorsey likes taller corners. Look at FA (Sean Smith), draft (Sanders Commings) & Arenas trade for proof

I've always hated smaller corners....coincidence?

nychief 05-01-2013 11:51 AM

Expect more of this.... we're going to see more and more Shithead Pioli's picks going away...

Strongside 05-01-2013 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9648773)
Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 12s

Had always heard #Chiefs GM John Dorsey likes taller corners. Look at FA (Sean Smith), draft (Sanders Commings) & Arenas trade for proof

Too bad Reid said that Commings will play FS, Ian. Do your homework you idiotic ****.

Dayze 05-01-2013 11:52 AM

has no place in a vertical offense....so let's trade for him!

woo hoo. JFC. dude would've been cut anyway.

Mr. Laz 05-01-2013 11:53 AM

I understand ... Dorsey is getting rid of every player acquired by Piioli.


but dam, don't just give shit away


we just drafted a fullback

Rukdafaidas 05-01-2013 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9648773)
Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 12s

Had always heard #Chiefs GM John Dorsey likes taller corners. Look at FA (Sean Smith), draft (Sanders Commings) & Arenas trade for proof

I hope Dorsey doesn't find out how tall Flowers is. He might trade him for a long snapper.

ChiefsCountry 05-01-2013 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 9648785)
has no place in a vertical offense....so let's trade for him!

woo hoo. JFC. dude would've been cut anyway.

You are talking about Alex Smith right. :p

Strongside 05-01-2013 11:53 AM

[QUOTE=Dayze;9648785]has no place in a vertical offense....so let's trade for him!

woo hoo. JFC. dude would've been cut anyway.[/

It was just trading camp fodder for camp fodder. Arenas wasn't making this team. Period.

Guy is shit and always has been.

ShowtimeSBMVP 05-01-2013 11:54 AM

Adam Teicher ‏@adamteicher 20s

Fans wondering why #Chiefs traded Arenas for a fullback. From the looks of this trade, Arenas wasn't going to make roster anyway

mcaj22 05-01-2013 11:54 AM

lol wow

any person that justifies this trade is a complete homer moron

ILChief 05-01-2013 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9648786)
I understand ... Dorsey is getting rid of every player acquired by Piioli.


but dam, don't just give shit away


we just drafted a fullback

No one would give anything of substance for arenas

ILChief 05-01-2013 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9648792)
Adam Teicher ‏@adamteicher 20s

Fans wondering why #Chiefs traded Arenas for a fullback. From the looks of this trade, Arenas wasn't going to make roster anyway

There u go

Dayze 05-01-2013 11:55 AM

[QUOTE=Strongside;9648791]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 9648785)
has no place in a vertical offense....so let's trade for him!

woo hoo. JFC. dude would've been cut anyway.[/

It was just trading camp fodder for camp fodder. Arenas wasn't making this team. Period.

Guy is shit and always has been.

I"m not so much pro-Arenas; I'm more concerned we traded for a guy that would most likely would've been cut if he was truly not going to be a part of a vertical offense etc.

sort of like Smith - who would've in all likelihood been cut due to his salary.

Strongside 05-01-2013 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9648792)
Adam Teicher ‏@adamteicher 20s

Fans wondering why #Chiefs traded Arenas for a fullback. From the looks of this trade, Arenas wasn't going to make roster anyway

And there it is. Arenas=dogshit.

Therefore, equal value trade for Arenas=dogshit.

nychief 05-01-2013 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9648794)
lol wow

any person that justifies this trade is a complete homer moron


I think that silly... this is a minor trade.

ShowtimeSBMVP 05-01-2013 11:56 AM

Arenas was a Free agent after this year. Chiefs save 350k with this move.

ILChief 05-01-2013 11:56 AM

[QUOTE=Dayze;9648798]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 9648791)

I"m not so much pro-Arenas; I'm more concerned we traded for a guy that would most likely would've been cut if he was truly not going to be a part of a vertical offense etc.

sort of like Smith - who would've in all likelihood been cut due to his salary.

We traded a guy we were gonna cut for a guy they were gonna cut.

mcaj22 05-01-2013 11:57 AM

can we sign Karlos Dansby or Richard Seymour with that 350k that Arenas frees up?

/CP

The Franchise 05-01-2013 11:57 AM

Tony Gonzales for a FB everyone!

Mr. Laz 05-01-2013 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 9648797)
There u go

so now Teicher is an expert


normally he's called an idiot

mcaj22 05-01-2013 11:58 AM

where is Clay what was Javier Arenas's PFF numbers last year compared to Dunta and Sean Smith

we all know Anthony Sherman is a ****ing terrible FB so we dont need those

ceebz 05-01-2013 11:58 AM

And the hits just keep on coming.

seaofred 05-01-2013 11:58 AM

[QUOTE=Dayze;9648798][QUOTE=Strongside;9648791]

I"m not so much pro-Arenas; I'm more concerned we traded for a guy that would most likely would've been cut if he was truly not going to be a part of a vertical offense etc.

sort of like Smith - who would've in all likelihood been cut due to his salary.[/QUOTE]

This is incorrect. Smith's salary is garuanteed. The 9ers would have still been on the hook for it if they cut him.

The Franchise 05-01-2013 11:58 AM

We now have the same number of FBs (5) as we do CBs (5) on this roster right now.

Strongside 05-01-2013 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9648794)
lol wow

any person that justifies this trade is a complete homer moron

JFC, dude. Arenas is horrible. He was not going to make the roster. Who would you have suggested we trade him for? This is obviously 2 teams that have shit players looking to unload them. We need camp fodder. They need depth as well. They swap players. Period. Equate it to the Guthrie for Sanchez trade. Two players that neither team want, so they agree to swap.

There is nothing to justify. Arenas is a bad player. This guy is probably a bad player too. Who ****ing cares?

Mr. Laz 05-01-2013 11:58 AM

If Jalil Brown touched the field with a single toe this year, Dorsey should have jumper cables clamped to his junk with the motor running

WhawhaWhat 05-01-2013 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9648808)
so now Teicher is an expert


normally he's called an idiot

Usually by idiots though.

Dayze 05-01-2013 11:59 AM

[QUOTE=seaofred;9648813][QUOTE=Dayze;9648798]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 9648791)

I"m not so much pro-Arenas; I'm more concerned we traded for a guy that would most likely would've been cut if he was truly not going to be a part of a vertical offense etc.

sort of like Smith - who would've in all likelihood been cut due to his salary.[/QUOTE]

This is incorrect. Smith's salary is garuanteed. The 9ers would have still been on the hook for it if they cut him.

ah. ok. thanks.

Mr. Laz 05-01-2013 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 9648815)
JFC, dude. Arenas is horrible. He was not going to make the roster. Who would you have suggested we trade him for? This is obviously 2 teams that have shit players looking to unload them. We need camp fodder. They need depth as well. They swap players. Period. Equate it to the Guthrie for Sanchez trade. Two players that neither team want, so they agree to swap.

There is nothing to justify. Arenas is a bad player. This guy is probably a bad player too. Who ****ing cares?

wrong,wrong and wrong

Strongside 05-01-2013 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9648822)
wrong,wrong and wrong

How so?

ptlyon 05-01-2013 12:00 PM

ROFL Me thinks people are starting to figure out this regime is no different than the last.

Me included.

In58men 05-01-2013 12:00 PM

Javier or this new FB will not be remotely close as to the outcome of next season. I could care less about this trade.

mcaj22 05-01-2013 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 9648815)
JFC, dude. Arenas is horrible. He was not going to make the roster. Who would you have suggested we trade him for? This is obviously 2 teams that have shit players looking to unload them. We need camp fodder. They need depth as well. They swap players. Period. Equate it to the Guthrie for Sanchez trade. Two players that neither team want, so they agree to swap.

There is nothing to justify. Arenas is a bad player. This guy is probably a bad player too. Who ****ing cares?

No

a bad player is Jalil Brown.

Javier Arenas is a good role player, can start in a pinch and can do a lot of things on defense and special teams if needed.

BigCatDaddy 05-01-2013 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 9648770)
If they had a better option right now than trading for a fullback, don't you think they would have taken it?

Straw man my ass.

You mean the same guys that gave up a 2nd and third for Alice?

WhawhaWhat 05-01-2013 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9648826)
Javier or this new FB will not be remotely close as to the outcome of next season. I could care less about this trade.

Yeah but Javier Areans is on our team so he's automatically worth at least a 2nd round pick plus their best player because we love him. Yay!!!!

ceebz 05-01-2013 12:02 PM

Now Arenas was horrible? The guy wasn't a number 2, but I always felt he was a solid nickel guy.

You know who sucks? Dunta Robinson.

nychief 05-01-2013 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9648822)
wrong,wrong and wrong

how? come on guys... this is nothing to see here. JA was a sloooow CB...a tire fire out there. Would you have rather just cut him in August? The contrarian aspect of this board is childish sometimes.

mcaj22 05-01-2013 12:03 PM

you know who is slower than Javier Arenas?

Dunta Robinson


Dunta Robinson is a shittier version of Javier Arenas. And we overpaid for those services

ShowtimeSBMVP 05-01-2013 12:03 PM

Areans wont even make the Cards roster.

Strongside 05-01-2013 12:03 PM

LMAO at everyone suddenly going blind to the fact that Javier Arenas has done NOTHING for this team in the past few years. Hoo-****ing-ray he averaged like 12 yards per PR. He also couldn't cover anyone. Ever.

We either pick up another player for him or we cut him for nothing. Those are the options. Sure, we could have used another position other than FB, but seriously...neither of these guys were going to contribute anyway.

Mr. Laz 05-01-2013 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 9648824)
How so?

if you think that Arenas sucks then you didn't watch much Chiefs' football

nychief 05-01-2013 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9648835)
you know who is slower than Javier Arenas?

Dunta Robinson


Dunta Robinson is a shittier version of Javier Arenas. And we overpaid for those services


that is just untrue.

mcaj22 05-01-2013 12:04 PM

while we are at it can we trade Tony Moeaki to the Flint Michigan Tropics for a washing machine?

WhawhaWhat 05-01-2013 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9648830)
You mean the same guys that gave up a 2nd and third for Alice?

Yes.

mcaj22 05-01-2013 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nychief (Post 9648839)
that is just untrue.

that is VERY true on paper.

Javier Arenas on a 2-14 dog shit team still put up better numbers than Dunta Robinson did on a PLAYOFF team last season

ILChief 05-01-2013 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9648808)
so now Teicher is an expert


normally he's called an idiot

Everyone is called an idiot here

nychief 05-01-2013 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9648838)
if you think that Arenas sucks then you didn't watch much Chiefs' football

put down the pipe, Laz. suddenly you are a Javier Arenas cheerleader? LMAO

Mr. Laz 05-01-2013 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nychief (Post 9648833)
how? come on guys... this is nothing to see here. JA was a sloooow CB...a tire fire out there. Would you have rather just cut him in August? The contrarian aspect of this board is childish sometimes.

you're just flat wrong


Arenas shouldn't be a starter but there many things he could do.

Bowser 05-01-2013 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 9648758)
Don't care about the trade. Just glad Arenas is gone. Guy contributed nothing. Sure, he had decent PR yardage averages...how many TD's did he score? Oh yeah...none.

His coverage was God-awful for the most part.

Bye.

TODD HALEY AND HIS WILDCAT FORMATION SAYS TO EAT HIS ASS

seaofred 05-01-2013 12:06 PM

This is not a bad trade, we traded a piece of crap for a piece of crap. Simple.

mcaj22 05-01-2013 12:07 PM

wait til Clay sees this lol

Strongside 05-01-2013 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9648838)
if you think that Arenas sucks then you didn't watch much Chiefs' football

And if you think he's any good then you have been watching TOO MUCH Chiefs football. I can't even recall how many times I've screamed at Arenas through my TV screen for boneheaded, dumbass plays in coverage. He's soft in press, his footwork is horrid, his speed is sub-par and he's short as ****. Was he the 2nd best option we had last year? Probably. Does that make him any good? **** NO! Our secondary was shit last year. We've improved. Move on.

Dude is no good.

Bowser 05-01-2013 12:07 PM

Peeoli, you egotistical arrogant incompetent ****ing nipple. Never head a draft for any team ever again.


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