LOL! And just think, 2 years ago they only won 4 games. I think Elway knows what he's doing. Say what you want about that franchise, but it is head and shoulders above K

I'll judge him when he has to build a team post-Manning.

Is he going to pull another rabbit out of his hat? Is he going to sign Tom Brady after the Patriots refuse to keep him around after awhile? What?

Assweiler isn't the solution, so what is it?

Who cares, judge him how you want. The fact of the matter is Denver was in shambles 2 years ago and now they are Super Bowl contenders. They're doing something right. To not acknowledge what they've been able to do in a short time is foolish. I tip my hat to them, and only wish the Chiefs could be as good.

Q: What's better than a franchise QB leading your team at the end of his career?

A: A franchise QB leading your team at the BEGINNING of his career

It may seem bleak now, but one day we'll have the QB, and they'll have the Matt Cassel game manager because "there were no options in the draft at the time" or whatever excuse they come up with

Well, it wasn't exactly a genious move to sign Peyton.

We have to remember Manning wasn't part of the Right 53.

Yep, in today's NFL there is nothing better. You are a guaranteed playoff contender every year no matter how bad the rest of your team is. You put a little talent around him on O or D and you're in the running for a championship.

Looks pretty damn good to me. Elway got it done and Pioli didn't get so much as a look. Elway also hasn't blown top 5 picks and didn't kid himself about the lack of talent at QB and HC.

Oh that's 1 way to look at it. But also they did with it took to win now. they also did not mortgage the future doing so. They could get a young franchise QB. Nobody says you have to draft 1. The Packers did pretty darn good when they traded for Favre. They already had their Matt Cassel. They letting go to New York.

There's no mystery about this. JFC.

They signed Peyton Manning and they're a contender.

Pretty ****ing simple.

I already have the SB off.

I'd throw up in my mouf...

Go Broncos!!!

And thanks to John Elway, already one of the best GM's in the league, we are in position to make a run.

I watched Denver play in Oakland last week and was not that impressed. Now, they are a threat, but I think there are a number of playoff teams that are more capable to winning it all than them.

I like Atlanta, Houston, Pats and the Packers chances better than I like Denver's.

All that said the payoffs are going to be fun as hell this year.

The team has made a number of move to put themselves in position. If I had to put a number on it I'd say 60 percent Manning. Remember though this team won a playoff game with Tim Tebow, that means we have an excellent defense.

Lots of teams win a single playoff game, even with shit QBs.

This team was a 9-7 one-and-doner without Manning, now they're a SB contender.

No ****ing mystery at all.