They had a Spurt-tacular QB last year and everyone was pimping the Daboll offense for bringing Bush out of his shell and milking the minimal talent there for all it was worth...

He doesn't have tons of potential. You have a qb rawer than geno, a guy with good not elite arm strength, and a guy with limited college playing experience. He has good enough mobility, but not enough to make him a running qb. Add in that he has really small hands and might struggle in bad weather, which is exactly what you want in a division with buffalo, new England, and the jets, not to mention will make him a threat to fumble a lot. Still believe his upside is to be a borderline top 10 qb and his downside risk was very high. He's playing better than I thought, but he's not a miss that's going to keep me up at night.

Geno is faster, has the frame and hands, and has a ton more experience even if it's not necessarily optimal, and throws a much better and more accurate ball.

Ummmm...might have to do with the fact that a number of our posters don't remember watching Young. (I remember, but then again, I remember when the wheel was invented.)

Cam is super talented but dumb as a mud brick. His ceiling is limited at QB.

RG III has a completely different build and has the intelligence to fit any offense.

The athletic QB has become the new sexy. It just is.

That said there will still be some hold outs, no matter the play, that say "just another dumb ****er running with the football..."

This is life...

Not a truckload of money, a lot of people out there think we broke the bank with Flynn. Just not the case..



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so you think Cassel and Geno are comparable? Idiot/cp
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Moore was their QB and they had Brandon Marshall too. Well anyone pimping Daboll for anything...well it is just stupid, Reggie Bush what a disappointing career that dude has had, their offensive talent was bad enough but then they got rid of Marshall so their talent level has dropped even further.

Maybe (I don't know enough to comment on Cam or RG's intelligence), but I still don't recall reading any racist posts on black QBs. A person's preference on QB style (pocket passer vs. running QB) doesn't have to be about race. Just because I like athletic QBs that can run, doesn't mean I'm prejudice against white QBs. Even if most white QBs are pocket passers.

I think we need to acknowledge that despite stereotypes and preferences for style of play, the vast majority of posters here are concerned with the quality of QB play and NOT the QB race/ethnicity. To assign a racist agenda to the entire board deserves a rebuttal.

Exactly!

There's the rub. Best litmus test... Anyone who questioned rgIIIs character or intelligence. Anyone who did probably hates on any black qb.

Cam doesn't belong in this equation. Lots of reasons to question his character, regardless of race.

Still, it's always a factor.

I don't think it's the fans I think it's the NFL.

Race doesn't play an issue?

Ok.

How many white RB's or WR's were taken in the 1st over the last 10 years?

That's ****ing 68.4% of the population of this country.

And how many white HB's or WR's were worth spending a 1st on?...

Will RG3 have some regression in his 2nd season? Probably, but Cam didn't show the same accuracy, maturity, or decision-making.

That's based on pure physical characteristics. There is physical evidence that says you can or can't. Leadership, football iq, and character are heavily influenced by opinion.

How many white rbs had the complete physical package?

I don't know but if there were no black QB's in that same time frame people would be throwing a fit.

It works both ways.

Stereotypes work both ways.


By the way, when you sweat, you smell like wet dog...

Race will be a factor as long as the "human" factor is involved.
People no matter their race can't help what they are naturally good at or naturally bad at.
It is merely other people wanting to say look the blacks or the whites are better at this or that. Who cares what color your skin. Just do what you are good at. Somebody wanting to use these type of statistics for anything racial is just not a very good person and should lose all credibility.
I don't care that someone is better at something than I am because I will be better than they are at something. It is just the way life is for all of us.