Next year you'll have a new draft, you'll have your 35 players, and you'll have any new free agents that the Chiefs pick up.

Once you reject a player, he's gone forever. Unless, I guess, if he leaves and then comes back later as a free agent, a la Monty Beisel.

Okay, you actually explained that just fine in Step 6. No more dumb questions...at least not tonight.

So here's the process everyone.

First, I will reject the trade that produced Allemand and Ndukwe

Now I get to choose from my rookies:

#3 - Mark Sanchez - QB - USC (went to Jets)
#34 - Rey Maualuga - OLB - USC (went to Bengals)
#67 - Derrick Williams - WR - Penn State (went to Lions)
#102 - D.J. Moore - CB - Vanderbilt (went to Bears)
#139 - Duke Robinson - G - Oklahoma (went to Panthers)
#175 - Myron Pryor - DE - Kentucky (went to Patriots)
#212 - Zack Follett - OLB - California (went to Lions)
#237 - No pick - Rejected Trade
#256 - Alex Boone - OT - Ohio State (not drafted, signed by 49ers)


and the current roster MINUS rookies that I did not draft. (Note that I took the rookies out of this list.) I also include Tony Gonzalez since I rejected that trade, and removed Cassel and Vrabel from the list since I also rejected that trade.


76 Albert, Branden T ACT 6'5" 316 11/4/1984 2 Virginia
Alleman, Andy OG ACT 6'4" 310 11/20/1983 3 Akron
26 Battle, Jackie RB ACT 6'2" 238 10/1/1983 2 Houston
52 Beisel, Monty LB ACT 6'3" 244 8/20/1978 9 Kansas State
59 Belcher, Jovan LB ACT 6'2" 228 7/24/1987 0 Maine
82 Bowe, Dwayne WR ACT 6'2" 221 9/21/1984 3 Louisiana State
83 Bradley, Mark WR ACT 6'1" 201 1/29/1982 5 Oklahoma
48 Brown, Mike DB ACT 5'10" 207 2/13/1978 10 Nebraska
39 Carr, Brandon CB ACT 6'0" 207 5/19/1986 2 Grand Valley State
7 Cassel, Matt QB ACT 6'4" 230 5/17/1982 5 USC
25 Charles, Jamaal RB ACT 5'11" 199 12/27/1986 2 Texas
30 Colclough, Ricardo DB ACT 5'11" 195 9/26/1983 6 Tusculum
2 Colquitt, Dustin P ACT 6'3" 210 5/6/1982 5 Tennessee
10 Copper, Terrance WR ACT 6'0" 207 3/12/1982 6 East Carolina
87 Cottam, Brad TE ACT 6'7" 269 11/28/1984 2 Tennessee
42 Cox, Mike FB ACT 6'0" 252 7/11/1985 2 Georgia Tech
12 Croyle, Brodie QB ACT 6'2" 206 2/6/1983 4 Alabama
57 Dacus, Weston LB RES 6'1" 232 9/19/1985 2 Arkansas
81 Darling, Devard WR RES 6'1" 213 4/16/1982 6 Washington State
72 Dorsey, Glenn DT ACT 6'1" 297 8/1/1985 2 Louisiana State
95 Edwards, Ron DT ACT 6'3" 315 7/12/1979 9 Texas A&M
84 Engram, Bobby WR ACT 5'10" 192 1/7/1973 14 Penn State
24 Flowers, Brandon CB ACT 5'9" 187 2/18/1986 2 Virginia Tech
43 Gafford, Thomas TE ACT 6'2" 252 1/29/1983 2 Houston
92 Gilberry, Wallace DE ACT 6'2" 268 12/5/1984 2 Alabama
79 Goff, Mike G ACT 6'5" 311 1/6/1976 12 Iowa
88 Gonzalez, Tony TE
15 Gutierrez, Matt QB ACT 6'4" 230 6/9/1984 3 Idaho State
91 Hali, Tamba DE ACT 6'3" 275 11/3/1983 4 Penn State
56 Johnson, Derrick OLB ACT 6'3" 242 11/22/1982 5 Texas
27 Johnson, Larry RB ACT 6'1" 230 11/19/1979 7 Penn State
31 Leggett, Maurice CB ACT 5'11" 188 10/2/1986 2 Valdosta State
69 Lokey, Derek DT RES 6'1" 287 11/25/1985 1 Texas
51 Mays, Corey LB ACT 6'1" 245 11/27/1983 4 Notre Dame
90 McBride, Turk DE ACT 6'2" 278 5/30/1985 3 Tennessee
47 McGraw, Jon DB ACT 6'3" 208 4/2/1979 8 Kansas State
38 Morgan, DaJuan SAF ACT 6'0" 203 10/21/1985 2 North Carolina State
60 Ndukwe, Ike G ACT 6'4" 325 7/17/1982 3 Northwestern
64 Niswanger, Rudy C ACT 6'5" 301 11/9/1982 4 Louisiana State
O'Callaghan, Ryan OT ACT 6'7" 330 7/19/1983 4 California
44 Page, Jarrad FS ACT 6'0" 225 10/19/1984 4 UCLA
89 Ryan, Sean TE ACT 6'5" 260 3/27/1980 6 Boston College
29 Savage, Dantrell RB ACT 5'8" 182 2/15/1985 2 Oklahoma State
74 Smith, Wade G ACT 6'4" 296 4/26/1981 7 Memphis
21 Smith, Kolby RB PUP 5'11" 219 12/15/1984 3 Louisville
96 Studebaker, Andy LB ACT 6'3" 248 9/16/1985 2 Wheaton
4 Thigpen, Tyler QB ACT 6'1" 224 4/14/1984 3 Coastal Carolina
93 Tyler, Tank DT ACT 6'2" 306 2/14/1985 3 North Carolina State
50 Vrabel, Mike LB ACT 6'4" 261 8/14/1975 13 Ohio State
67 Walters, Pierre LB ACT 6'5" 269 3/25/1986 0 Eastern Illinois
54 Waters, Brian G ACT 6'3" 320 2/18/1977 10 North Texas
53 Williams, Demorrio OLB ACT 6'1" 232 7/6/1980 6 Nebraska

So my 40-man roster is:

QB
Mark Sanchez - QB - USC (went to Jets)
12 Croyle, Brodie QB ACT 6'2" 206 2/6/1983 4 Alabama
4 Thigpen, Tyler QB ACT 6'1" 224 4/14/1984 3 Coastal Carolina

HB
27 Johnson, Larry RB ACT 6'1" 230 11/19/1979 7 Penn State
25 Charles, Jamaal RB ACT 5'11" 199 12/27/1986 2 Texas
26 Battle, Jackie RB ACT 6'2" 238 10/1/1983 2 Houston
29 Savage, Dantrell RB ACT 5'8" 182 2/15/1985 2 Oklahoma State


FB
42 Cox, Mike FB ACT 6'0" 252 7/11/1985 2 Georgia Tech


WR
82 Bowe, Dwayne WR ACT 6'2" 221 9/21/1984 3 Louisiana State
83 Bradley, Mark WR ACT 6'1" 201 1/29/1982 5 Oklahoma
Derrick Williams - WR - Penn State (went to Lions)

TE
88 Gonzalez, Tony TE
74 Smith, Wade G ACT 6'4" 296 4/26/1981 7 Memphis

T
76 Albert, Branden T ACT 6'5" 316 11/4/1984 2 Virginia
O'Callaghan, Ryan OT ACT 6'7" 330 7/19/1983 4 California
Alex Boone - OT - Ohio State (not drafted, signed by 49ers)

G
54 Waters, Brian G ACT 6'3" 320 2/18/1977 10 North Texas
Duke Robinson - G - Oklahoma (went to Panthers)
79 Goff, Mike G ACT 6'5" 311 1/6/1976 12 Iowa

C
64 Niswanger, Rudy C ACT 6'5" 301 11/9/1982 4 Louisiana State


K
(Scrub)

P
2 Colquitt, Dustin P ACT 6'3" 210 5/6/1982 5 Tennessee


FS
44 Page, Jarrad FS ACT 6'0" 225 10/19/1984 4 UCLA

SS
38 Morgan, DaJuan SAF ACT 6'0" 203 10/21/1985 2 North Carolina State


CB
24 Flowers, Brandon CB ACT 5'9" 187 2/18/1986 2 Virginia Tech
39 Carr, Brandon CB ACT 6'0" 207 5/19/1986 2 Grand Valley State
31 Leggett, Maurice CB ACT 5'11" 188 10/2/1986 2 Valdosta State
D.J. Moore - CB - Vanderbilt (went to Bears)

OLB
91 Hali, Tamba LB ACT 6'3" 275 11/3/1983 4 Penn State
Rey Maualuga - OLB - USC (went to Bengals)
53 Williams, Demorrio OLB ACT 6'1" 232 7/6/1980 6 Nebraska
96 Studebaker, Andy LB ACT 6'3" 248 9/16/1985 2 Wheaton

ILB
56 Johnson, Derrick ILB ACT 6'3" 242 11/22/1982 5 Texas
51 Mays, Corey LB ACT 6'1" 245 11/27/1983 4 Notre Dame
52 Beisel, Monty LB ACT 6'3" 244 8/20/1978 9 Kansas State

DE
72 Dorsey, Glenn DE ACT 6'1" 297 8/1/1985 2 Louisiana State
Myron Pryor - DE - Kentucky (went to Patriots)
90 McBride, Turk DE ACT 6'2" 278 5/30/1985 3 Tennessee
92 Gilberry, Wallace DE ACT 6'2" 268 12/5/1984 2 Alabama

DT
95 Edwards, Ron DT ACT 6'3" 315 7/12/1979 9 Texas A&M
93 Tyler, Tank DT ACT 6'2" 306 2/14/1985 3 North Carolina State


If I can't get enough games out of these players, I'll be going with "scrubs" to fill out my remaining games.





My Cuts:


59 Belcher, Jovan LB ACT 6'2" 228 7/24/1987 0 Maine
48 Brown, Mike DB ACT 5'10" 207 2/13/1978 10 Nebraska
30 Colclough, Ricardo DB ACT 5'11" 195 9/26/1983 6 Tusculum
10 Copper, Terrance WR ACT 6'0" 207 3/12/1982 6 East Carolina
87 Cottam, Brad TE ACT 6'7" 269 11/28/1984 2 Tennessee
15 Gutierrez, Matt QB ACT 6'4" 230 6/9/1984 3 Idaho State
57 Dacus, Weston LB RES 6'1" 232 9/19/1985 2 Arkansas
81 Darling, Devard WR RES 6'1" 213 4/16/1982 6 Washington State
84 Engram, Bobby WR ACT 5'10" 192 1/7/1973 14 Penn State
43 Gafford, Thomas TE ACT 6'2" 252 1/29/1983 2 Houston
Alleman, Andy OG ACT 6'4" 310 11/20/1983 3 Akron
69 Lokey, Derek DT RES 6'1" 287 11/25/1985 1 Texas
47 McGraw, Jon DB ACT 6'3" 208 4/2/1979 8 Kansas State
60 Ndukwe, Ike G ACT 6'4" 325 7/17/1982 3 Northwestern
21 Smith, Kolby RB PUP 5'11" 219 12/15/1984 3 Louisville
67 Walters, Pierre LB ACT 6'5" 269 3/25/1986 0 Eastern Illinois

Here's my attempt so far. Reserving the right to tweak prior to the deadline. Including my draft/trade information as well.

The 2009 Fresno Refugees Offseason Trade Accepts/Rejects

1. The Fresno Refugees reject the Cassel/Vrabel trade.
2. The Fresno Refugees accept the Gonzales trade.
3. The Fresno Refugees accept the 2009 7th round pick for 2010 7th round pick.
4. The Fresno Refugees reject the trade that produced Allemand and Ndukwe.

The 2009 Fresno Refugees NFL Draft

#3 - Mark Sanchez - QB - USC
#34 - Clint Sintim - OLB - Virginia
#67 - Chase Coffman - TE - Missouri
#102 - Donald Washington - CB - Ohio State
#139 - Colin Brown - OT - Missouri
#175 - Quinten Lawrence - WR - McNeese State
#212 - Javarris Williams - RB - Tennessee State - CUT (signed to Practice Squad)
#237 - Jake O'Connell - WR - Miami (Ohio)
#256 - Ryan Succop - K - South Carolina

The 2009 Fresno Refugees 35-Man Roster

QB
Mark Sanchez (Jets)
Brodie Croyle
Tyler Thigpen
Matt Gutierrez

RB
Larry Johnson
Jamaal Charles
Jackie Battle
Dantrell Savage

FB
Mike Cox

WR
Dwayne Bowe
Mark Bradley
Quinten Lawrence
Terrance Copper

OL
Branden Albert
Ryan O'Callaghan
Colin Brown
Brian Waters
Rudy Niswanger

TE
Chase Coffman (Bengals)
Sean Ryan
Jake O'Connell

DL
Glenn Dorsey
Tank Tyler
Ron Edwards
Wallace Gilberry
Turk McBride

LB
Derrick Johnson
Tamba Hali
Clint Sintim (Giants)
Corey Mays
Andy Studebaker
Demorrio Williams

DB
Brandon Flowers
Brandon Carr
Maurice Leggett
Donald Washington
Jarred Page
Jajuan Morgan

K
Ryan Succop

P
Dustin Colquitt

Edit: I forgot that I rejected the Tony Gonzalez trade, so I added him to my roster and cut Sean Ryan.

I will reject the trade that produced Allemand and Ndukwe

My rookies:
#3 - Tyson Jackson DE LSU
#34 (Traded for Cassel)
#67 - Kraig Urbik G Wisconsin
#102 - Donald Washington CB Ohio State
#139 - Colin Brown OT Missouri
#175 - Quinten Lawrence WR McNeese State
#212 - Javarris Williams RB Tennessee State
#237 - Ricky Jean-Francois DT LSU
#256 - Ryan Succop K South Carolina

My 35 man roster:

QB
7 Cassel, Matt QB ACT 6'4" 230 5/17/1982 5 USC
12 Croyle, Brodie QB ACT 6'2" 206 2/6/1983 4 Alabama
4 Thigpen, Tyler QB ACT 6'1" 224 4/14/1984 3 Coastal Carolina

HB
27 Johnson, Larry RB ACT 6'1" 230 11/19/1979 7 Penn State
25 Charles, Jamaal RB ACT 5'11" 199 12/27/1986 2 Texas
26 Battle, Jackie RB ACT 6'2" 238 10/1/1983 2 Houston


FB
42 Cox, Mike FB ACT 6'0" 252 7/11/1985 2 Georgia Tech


WR
82 Bowe, Dwayne WR ACT 6'2" 221 9/21/1984 3 Louisiana State
83 Bradley, Mark WR ACT 6'1" 201 1/29/1982 5 Oklahoma
84 Engram, Bobby WR ACT 5'10" 192 1/7/1973 14 Penn State
#175 - Quinten Lawrence WR McNeese State

TE
89 Ryan, Sean TE ACT 6'5" 260 3/27/1980 6 Boston College
87 Cottam, Brad TE ACT 6'7" 269 11/28/1984 2 Tennessee


T
76 Albert, Branden T ACT 6'5" 316 11/4/1984 2 Virginia
O'Callaghan, Ryan OT ACT 6'7" 330 7/19/1983 4 California
#139 - Colin Brown OT Missouri

G
54 Waters, Brian G ACT 6'3" 320 2/18/1977 10 North Texas
#67 - Kraig Urbik G Wisconsin (drafted by Steelers)
79 Goff, Mike G ACT 6'5" 311 1/6/1976 12 Iowa


C
64 Niswanger, Rudy C ACT 6'5" 301 11/9/1982 4 Louisiana State


K
#256 - Ryan Succop K South Carolina

P
2 Colquitt, Dustin P ACT 6'3" 210 5/6/1982 5 Tennessee


FS
44 Page, Jarrad FS ACT 6'0" 225 10/19/1984 4 UCLA

SS
38 Morgan, DaJuan SAF ACT 6'0" 203 10/21/1985 2 North Carolina State
48 Brown, Mike DB ACT 5'10" 207 2/13/1978 10 Nebraska


CB
24 Flowers, Brandon CB ACT 5'9" 187 2/18/1986 2 Virginia Tech
39 Carr, Brandon CB ACT 6'0" 207 5/19/1986 2 Grand Valley State
31 Leggett, Maurice CB ACT 5'11" 188 10/2/1986 2 Valdosta State
#102 - Donald Washington CB Ohio State

OLB
91 Hali, Tamba LB ACT 6'3" 275 11/3/1983 4 Penn State
50 Vrabel, Mike LB ACT 6'4" 261 8/14/1975 13 Ohio State
96 Studebaker, Andy LB ACT 6'3" 248 9/16/1985 2 Wheaton

ILB
56 Johnson, Derrick ILB ACT 6'3" 242 11/22/1982 5 Texas
51 Mays, Corey LB ACT 6'1" 245 11/27/1983 4 Notre Dame
53 Williams, Demorrio OLB ACT 6'1" 232 7/6/1980 6 Nebraska

DE
#3 - Tyson Jackson DE LSU
72 Dorsey, Glenn DE ACT 6'1" 297 8/1/1985 2 Louisiana State
92 Gilberry, Wallace DE ACT 6'2" 268 12/5/1984 2 Alabama


DT
95 Edwards, Ron DT ACT 6'3" 315 7/12/1979 9 Texas A&M
93 Tyler, Tank DT ACT 6'2" 306 2/14/1985 3 North Carolina State

Cuts:
52 Beisel, Monty LB ACT 6'3" 244 8/20/1978 9 Kansas State
59 Belcher, Jovan LB ACT 6'2" 228 7/24/1987 0 Maine
30 Colclough, Ricardo DB ACT 5'11" 195 9/26/1983 6 Tusculum
10 Copper, Terrance WR ACT 6'0" 207 3/12/1982 6 East Carolina
57 Dacus, Weston LB RES 6'1" 232 9/19/1985 2 Arkansas
81 Darling, Devard WR RES 6'1" 213 4/16/1982 6 Washington State
43 Gafford, Thomas TE ACT 6'2" 252 1/29/1983 2 Houston
15 Gutierrez, Matt QB ACT 6'4" 230 6/9/1984 3 Idaho State
69 Lokey, Derek DT RES 6'1" 287 11/25/1985 1 Texas
90 McBride, Turk DE ACT 6'2" 278 5/30/1985 3 Tennessee
47 McGraw, Jon DB ACT 6'3" 208 4/2/1979 8 Kansas State
29 Savage, Dantrell RB ACT 5'8" 182 2/15/1985 2 Oklahoma State
74 Smith, Wade G ACT 6'4" 296 4/26/1981 7 Memphis
21 Smith, Kolby RB PUP 5'11" 219 12/15/1984 3 Louisville
67 Walters, Pierre LB ACT 6'5" 269 3/25/1986 0 Eastern Illinois

Okay, I pm'ed everyone who drafted other than bdeg, whose mailbox is full. We're going to go with a 40-Chief roster instead of the 35 stated in the rules, so we aren't too thin at certain positions.

LA Cobras accept Vrabel and cassel trade
LA Cobras accept tony Gonzalez trade
LA Cobras accept trade of 2010 7th for 2009 7th

LA Cobras Draft:

#3- Michael Crabtree - WR Texas Tech (49ers)
#67- Jaron Gilbert - DE San Jose ST (Bears)
#102- Brandon Williams - OLB/DE. Texas Tech (cowboys)
#139- Cornellius Ingram- TE Florida (eagles)
#175- A. Gardner- OT Georgia Tech (dolphins)
#212- AQ Shipley- OC. Penn State (steelers)
#237- Darry Beckwith- ILB LSU. (chargers)
#256- Ryan Succop- PK. South Carolina. (chiefs)


Man this sucks now all injuries and a dumb ass crabtree I don't want to play lol jk. Ok I'll have my roster tomorrow on my day off also will have my alt 3 roster done

Heh. Only 1 of your top four picks is in camp without a body cast. You're a prime lesson in how luck plays a role.


One of my low-round picks was cut, which was a bummer since I thought he was a steal. They don't all work out, though.

Do we need to have a long snapper?

Nah, no long snapper. Too hard to figure out who does it.

One more dumb question - what about players that are cut, but then signed to the practice squad? Is Barry Richardson off limits now?

Question:

Are our drafts final? I just realized that I don't have a kicker.....and that would suck. Are we allowed to redo our drafts?

You can still put Richardson on your squad since he's on the final roster (even if it's practice squad).

And pestilence, I have the same problem with the kicker. I think it's too late to re-do our drafts, and there's no way to pick one up. Unless people can come up with a reasonable solution, I think you and I are going with Scrubby McScrub as our kicker this year.

Does the scrub count on our 40 man roster?