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BlackOp 07-23-2015 09:30 PM

Maclin's 2014 season would have been all-time Chiefs best
 
Just read that in an article...

"85 catches, 1,318 yards and 10 touchdowns he had last season would have been the best all-around receiving year in Chiefs history."

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...as-city-chiefs

Deberg_1990 07-23-2015 09:35 PM

Derrick Alexander does not agree

ThaVirus 07-23-2015 09:49 PM

If we're basing it solely off of statistics, I'd rather have 72 catches for 1,162 yards and 15 TDs.

cdcox 07-23-2015 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11615123)
If we're basing it solely off of statistics, I'd rather have 72 catches for 1,162 yards and 15 TDs.

Not if he is going to point to his name on the back of his jersey.

Rain Man 07-23-2015 10:01 PM

I would take Otis Taylor's 58 catches for 1,297 yards and 8 TDs in a 14-game season in 1966.

cdcox 07-23-2015 10:03 PM

Not to mention Alex has never come close to feeding a single WR at that level.

Hammock Parties 07-23-2015 10:05 PM

Eagles had like 30 percent more passing plays than the Chiefs or something absurd.

Bowser 07-23-2015 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 11615096)
Derrick Alexander does not agree

Yep. Still not sure how he didn't make the pro bowl that year (2000?). Too many other "name" guys, probably.

Rain Man 07-23-2015 10:33 PM

Otis Taylor averaged over 22 yards per reception in 1966. Think about that. He AVERAGED 22 yards per reception. That's insane.

Mav 07-23-2015 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Stop, Chiefs (Post 11615138)
Eagles had like 30 percent more passing plays than the Chiefs or something absurd.


Not really. The Eagles ran the fastest pace in the league. They had qbs who weren't terrified of a forward pass.

BlackOp 07-23-2015 10:39 PM

Well..at least KC has a legit #1 WR for a WC offense now. I really think it's going to have a significant impact on the offense as a whole.

It's a number's game and Bowe didn't require two defenders to account for him. The way Reid designs plays...someone is going to be open. If I played FF..I would draft Kelce. I think he is going to be an immediate beneficiary of having Maclin on the team.

Hammock Parties 07-23-2015 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mav (Post 11615176)
The Eagles ran the fastest pace in the league.

Another reason Maclin won't get 1300 yards here.

Mav 07-23-2015 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Stop, Chiefs (Post 11615192)
Another reason Maclin won't get 1300 yards here.


The biggest reason wears number 11

TribalElder 07-23-2015 11:00 PM

LMAO

He will never hit those numbers here

Maybe if he was a tight end he coul get a couple touchdowns at least

wazu 07-23-2015 11:39 PM

I'm guessing 70 catches, 900 yards, 6 TDs for Maclin this year. He'll help balance things out some as he is better than Bowe, but we aren't going to see a transformation.

pr_capone 07-23-2015 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 11615131)
Not if he is going to point to his name on the back of his jersey.

Yes... because Bowe's single and solitary problem was his pointing to the back of his jersey. People's annoyance with him was first and foremost his pointing... THEN his drops, his lazy routes, his general unwillingness to go up for balls he didn't feel like making an effort for, or his importing bitches.

Nope.

Just the jersey pointing.

BlackOp 07-24-2015 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 11615225)
I'm guessing 70 catches, 900 yards, 6 TDs for Maclin this year. He'll help balance things out some as he is better than Bowe, but we aren't going to see a transformation.

Do you think a WR in the style of Dez would have a bigger impact in a WC? Rice was a pretty small, average speed WR...he just knew where to be and had great hands...which is pretty much everything Bowe wasn't....minus the slow.

Discuss Thrower 07-24-2015 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 11615135)
Not to mention Alex has never come close to feeding a single WR at that level.

Troll.

IowaChiefs83 07-24-2015 02:50 AM

So is Tony Gonzalez the one lone player in franchise history to have 100 plus catches in a single season?

J Diddy 07-24-2015 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by IowaChiefs83 (Post 11615279)
So is Tony Gonzalez the one lone player in franchise history to have 100 plus catches in a single season?

Multiple players have caught vd 100+ times in a season.

They were too wored out on game day to catch the ball.

Deberg_1990 07-24-2015 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 11615145)
Yep. Still not sure how he didn't make the pro bowl that year (2000?). Too many other "name" guys, probably.

Carlos Carson, Stephon Paige, Andre Rison and Dwayne Bowe might have a case too.

Mav 07-24-2015 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 11615259)
Do you think a WR in the style of Dez would have a bigger impact in a WC? Rice was a pretty small, average speed WR...he just knew where to be and had great hands...which is pretty much everything Bowe wasn't....minus the slow.


He also ran the best routes of any receiver ever.

MahiMike 07-24-2015 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Stop, Chiefs (Post 11615138)
Eagles had like 30 percent more passing plays than the Chiefs or something absurd.

And folks bitch that Andy throws too much.

BossChief 07-24-2015 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mav (Post 11615490)
He also ran the best routes of any receiver ever.

And used stickem.

Rausch 07-24-2015 11:13 AM

I've only been a fan since 98 but DA was by far the biggest threat at WR since then.

He not only made Girlbac look good he was actually open and reliable when the game was on the line...

Rausch 07-24-2015 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 11615553)
And folks bitch that Andy throws too much.

We do...

stevieray 07-24-2015 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 11615860)
I've only been a fan since 98 but DA was by far the biggest threat at WR since then.

He not only made Girlbac look good he was actually open and reliable when the game was on the line...

Grbac threw a game winning TD to DA at the goal line in Pile High......I was five rows up ..happened right in front of me.

Rick Dennison gave me the tickets.

Halfcan 07-24-2015 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 11615860)
I've only been a fan since 98 but DA was by far the biggest threat at WR since then.

He not only made Girlbac look good he was actually open and reliable when the game was on the line...

98? You missed the Best years. :)

IowaChiefs83 07-24-2015 05:26 PM

Does anyone think that Maclin has a chance to be this franchises third most productive receiver behind Bowe and Taylor?

Eleazar 07-24-2015 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11615269)
Troll.

Vernon Davis had 78, 56, and 67 receptions his last 3 years playing primarily under Alex Smith. Crabtree had 72 in Smith's last year there.

ViperVisor 07-24-2015 07:36 PM

Crabtree missed 6 games 2009-2011

Still got 302 targets still. Only 24th most of all WR but 49ers were 29th in total pass attempts.

Vernon Davis is not a well rounded weapon in the pass game you can't feed him targets like Tony G getting 150 a year.

Crabtree had the hype and when he slipped a bit to 10th pick as a guy some hyped as the best prospect in the draft.

When he was on the field he was given chances. 23% of passes went towards him.

He lacked 'it'. He is not a top flight athlete at WR. And missing all the time holding out and foot or something stopped him from getting any preseason action in 2010 or 2011.
He was not good #1 WR.

He caught 58% of passes to him for 13 yards a catch

Josh Morgan caught 62% for 13 yards a catch

They tried to move him off typical #1 WR playing outside position in 2011 with Braylon Edwards being signed. They were able to do it in 2012 and Crabtree was able to reach his potential in 2012 with some dominating numbers in the slot with Smith. The run with Kaepernick forcing him passes was not something that could be sustained.

cdcox 07-24-2015 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 11616363)
Vernon Davis had 78, 56, and 67 receptions his last 3 years playing primarily under Alex Smith. Crabtree had 72 in Smith's last year there.

All the times I checked, Vernon played TE.

Alex started 9 games that year. Kaepernick started 7. Look up Crabtree's splits. He had significantly more yards per game under kaepernick.

ThaVirus 07-24-2015 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 11616734)
All the times I checked, Vernon played TE.



Alex started 9 games that year. Kaepernick started 7. Look up Crabtree's splits. He had significantly more yards per game under kaepernick.


They're going to counter that Vernon Davis' numbers took a dip at the same time

Hammock Parties 07-24-2015 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11616757)
They're going to counter that Vernon Davis' numbers took a dip at the same time

Which doesn't matter because the 49ers PPG went up and they went to the ****ing Super Bowl.

milkman 07-25-2015 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IowaChiefs83 (Post 11616334)
Does anyone think that Maclin has a chance to be this franchises third most productive receiver behind Bowe and Taylor?

I think Maclin has the chance to be the best receiver on this team since Stephone Paige.

Sweet Daddy Hate 07-25-2015 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mav (Post 11615176)
Not really. The Eagles ran the fastest pace in the league. They had qbs who weren't terrified of a forward pass.

It helps.

Eleazar 07-25-2015 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 11616734)
All the times I checked, Vernon played TE.

Alex started 9 games that year. Kaepernick started 7. Look up Crabtree's splits. He had significantly more yards per game under kaepernick.

It doesn't matter where the receiver lined up if he is moving the chains.

Mav 07-25-2015 03:12 PM

Maclin's 2014 season would have been all-time Chiefs best
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11616757)
They're going to counter that Vernon Davis' numbers took a dip at the same time


Everyone's numbers went down except for Crabtree. 50% of Kaeps passes went to Crabtree. Ironically, if kaepernick had just looked at Vernon Davis on fourth down instead of forcing it to Crabtree they win the super bowl.


But yes crabtree's numbers sky rocketed.

cdcox 07-25-2015 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 11617417)
It doesn't matter where the receiver lined up if he is moving the chains.

Unless the point of discossion is whether we think Maclin has much of a chance of matching his production from last year.


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