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Deberg_1990 08-11-2014 03:51 PM

Ed Harris takes Top villain role in HBOs "Westworld" reboot
 
Sweet. Loved this film when I was a kid. It's ripe for a reboot.

Doesn't sound like he's playing the Yul Brenner role though

http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/08/11/ed-harris-westworld/



Image Credit: WireImage.com
Ed Harris is coming to series TV: The Abyss and Apollo 13 actor has signed on as the Big Bad in HBO’s Westworld reboot.
The four-time Oscar nominee’s character is called The Man in Black, and is described as “the distillation of pure villainy into one man.” He joins previously cast star — and fellow series television newcomer—Anthony Hopkins, along with Evan Rachel Wood, Jeffrey Wright, and Shannon Woodward.

The Warner Bros.-produced sci-fi pilot produced by J.J Abrams, Jerry Weintraub, and Bryan Burk updates Michael Crichton’s 1973 classic film about a theme park where androids fulfill dark human desires. Harris’ description might sound like he’s playing the Yul Brynner killer-cowboy robot role, but it seems like actor Rodrigo Santoro was tapped for that part—and online production rumors suggest The Man in Black is actually a human character who sadistically abuses the androids.

Harris will soon be seen the feature film Run All Night, starring opposite Liam Neeson and Joel Kinnaman. Harris won a Golden Globe and was nominated for an Emmy for his work in HBO’s Game Change.

cosmo20002 08-12-2014 08:10 PM

"Reboot"
Is there any word that inspires less optimism that a movie/show won't be shitty? Reboots must have about a 99% fail rate.

Deberg_1990 08-12-2014 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 10814351)
"Reboot"
Is there any word that inspires less optimism that a movie/show won't be shitty? Reboots must have about a 99% fail rate.

This sounds solid though. im actually shocked this premise hasnt been updated until now.

MMXcalibur 08-12-2014 11:40 PM

They need to do a "Deadwood" "reboot" with the same cast and plot.

....so, just continue Deadwood.

****ers.

Rausch 08-13-2014 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCtotheSB (Post 10814698)
They need to do a "Deadwood" "reboot" with the same cast and plot.

....so, just continue Deadwood.

****ers.

I can't believe they let that end the way it did...

DMAC 08-13-2014 08:18 AM

HMMMMMMMM

siberian khatru 08-13-2014 08:33 AM

Westworld was the first PG movie I saw in a theater. I was about 7 years old.

tk13 08-10-2015 01:10 PM

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Al Bundy 08-10-2015 03:13 PM

This show HAS to be better than the movie.

Deberg_1990 08-10-2015 03:37 PM

Looks great!

The movie was good for its time. Yul Brenner was so creepy

Bambi 08-11-2015 02:12 PM

Noticed the "Q"

will post this here.

Reminds me of this a little...

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listopencil 04-24-2016 11:54 PM

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keg in kc 06-20-2016 03:47 PM

This looks so good...

<iframe width="377" height="237" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/eX3u0IlBBO4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

DJ's left nut 06-20-2016 03:51 PM

"Are you real"

"Well if you can't tell....does it matter?"

This exchange perfectly sums up my thoughts on 'enhanced' breasts.

notorious 06-21-2016 01:05 PM

Awesome

DMAC 06-21-2016 01:06 PM

NO WAY

Lzen 06-22-2016 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12283714)
"Are you real"

"Well if you can't tell....does it matter?"

This exchange perfectly sums up my thoughts on 'enhanced' breasts.

But you can tell. :hmmm:

Lzen 06-22-2016 12:03 PM

That actually looks really good.

listopencil 06-22-2016 04:36 PM

This looks like it could be better than the original movie. Not quite a Battle Star Galactica level upgrade because that original TV show was shit, but along those lines.

Deberg_1990 06-22-2016 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 12286141)
This looks like it could be better than the original movie. Not quite a Battle Star Galactica level upgrade because that original TV show was shit, but along those lines.

Loved the original as a kid.

I'm actually surprised it took them this long to reboot it because the premise is ripe in the digital/Information Age we live in.

BlackOp 06-23-2016 02:30 AM

Take the whole production crew from True Detective Ver.1 and transplant them to this series...and dont let JJ Abrams touch anything that requires creative input. He's the generic kiss of death...just take his production cashflow and lock the door.

This has the potential to be really great...like anything, the director they choose will either destroy a great opportunity or make it alive. *see Speilberg trying to understand Kubrick's AI...too vast of topic for him.

notorious 08-30-2016 07:33 AM

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Simply Red 08-30-2016 08:03 AM

dude is awesome.

Fish 08-30-2016 08:47 AM

Damn this looks good....

Great Expectations 08-30-2016 09:25 AM

I heard some people who had advanced copies of this on the Stern show talking it up. They had a ton of positive things to say.

MahiMike 08-30-2016 09:47 AM

That was quite the futuristic movie back in the day. Remake as a series is a great idea. Ed Harris is awesome too.

BleedingRed 08-30-2016 02:09 PM

Looks good man, this competition between AMC and HBO has been badass

Coochie liquor 08-30-2016 08:29 PM

This looks really ducking good, but I'm easily entertained.

Bowser 09-01-2016 05:10 PM

I like the look of this. In for sure.

Stryker 09-02-2016 09:06 AM

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/09/01/westworld-poster

BigRedChief 09-05-2016 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 12400027)
I like the look of this. In for sure.

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lx...co1_r2_500.gif

keg in kc 09-13-2016 06:28 PM

<iframe width="377" height="237" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/B6Z__wbpDa4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

notorious 09-13-2016 06:30 PM

Deep stuff.

Baby Lee 09-14-2016 12:06 AM

Baby wants to ****! Baby wants to Fuuuuucckkkkk!!!

Rausch 09-15-2016 10:23 AM

Looks much better than I thought it would...

unlurking 10-02-2016 09:32 PM

Great first episode. Loved the score too. Much better than tonight's shitty game.

Baby Lee 10-02-2016 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unlurking (Post 12462866)
Great first episode. Loved the score too. Much better than tonight's shitty game.

Stick with it. From what I understand it starts out very disorienting through the first half of the season. Like if you crossed Game of Thrones with Memento.

You gotta be observant and patient for the payoff.

unlurking 10-03-2016 11:58 AM

Oh yeah. So far, very cool. Good spin with the first newcomer. Caught me off guard. Hopkins is creepily awesome too. And the "speech" by the bandit at the end was hilarious.

Bowser 10-03-2016 12:11 PM

Really enjoyed the first episode. I don't remember the original movie so I'm not sure exactly what happens (not even sure if they are following the same script here or not), but I do look forward to seeing where this goes.

RINGLEADER 10-03-2016 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 12463002)
Stick with it. From what I understand it starts out very disorienting through the first half of the season. Like if you crossed Game of Thrones with Memento.

You gotta be observant and patient for the payoff.

I think you're going to see a lot of twists -- especially when people you think are human end up being robots. The whole opening set that up nicely I thought.

And the hints at the depraved stuff going on in the deep desert sounds like this show is going to go down some very dark paths. Love it so far.

mnchiefsguy 10-03-2016 12:15 PM

Really enjoyed the first episode. It was bit slow, but I feel like it was being deliberate, and setting the parameters of their world and such. Nice setup for what is looking to be a great show.

Discuss Thrower 10-03-2016 11:43 PM

Holy shit. Awesome.

The usage of the player piano for some anachronistic jams was the tits -especially for the "cover" story.

unlurking 10-04-2016 05:31 AM

Yeah. I caught Black Hole Sun and Paint it Black, but that was in the second half of the show. I was tempted to go see what songs I didn't notice in the first half.

BigRedChief 10-04-2016 06:06 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Westworld reminds us of how like us robots could be <a href="https://t.co/ZCMvsPlYwC">https://t.co/ZCMvsPlYwC</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/ConversationEDU">@ConversationEDU</a></p>&mdash; Phys.org Technology (@physorg_tech) <a href="https://twitter.com/physorg_tech/status/783276135132106753">October 4, 2016</a></blockquote>
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mdchiefsfan 10-05-2016 05:41 PM

That was a great first episode. Nothing over the top, but plenty of questions I'll be curious to see play out. I'm hooked.

Sure-Oz 10-08-2016 11:58 PM

Solid....looking fwd to ep 2

Nickhead 10-09-2016 12:34 AM

watched earlier. i am digging this show for certain.

unlurking 10-09-2016 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 12472876)
Solid....looking fwd to ep 2

Was online 2 days ago. Very good episode. I doubt HBO keeps releasing them early online, but I hope they do.

keg in kc 10-09-2016 02:00 PM

Finally caught the pilot. Damn.

hometeam 10-09-2016 02:57 PM

SO i skipped to the end to avoid any spoilers.. is this worth a shit?

Bowser 10-09-2016 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 12473609)
SO i skipped to the end to avoid any spoilers.. is this worth a shit?

It is indeed worth a shit. The pilot set up a pretty amazing story to come, so get on the train.

hometeam 10-09-2016 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 12473838)
It is indeed worth a shit. The pilot set up a pretty amazing story to come, so get on the train.

alright tonight im gonna get it in after SNF

vailpass 10-09-2016 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 12473609)
SO i skipped to the end to avoid any spoilers.. is this worth a shit?

Mos def

Deberg_1990 10-10-2016 09:09 AM

Loving it

Incredible bit of world building so far. Love all the little details about the underground world of the park. It would be quite an operation to run a theme park of this nature, and they are showing that.

A coworker friend brought up , is the world real or virtual? I'm assuming it's real/physical, ,but it could be virtual I suppose?

They do show the guests arriving by train though

Sure-Oz 10-10-2016 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unlurking (Post 12473119)
Was online 2 days ago. Very good episode. I doubt HBO keeps releasing them early online, but I hope they do.

Def a good episode...I'm def intrigued

mr. tegu 10-10-2016 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 12475469)
Loving it

Incredible bit of world building so far. Love all the little details about the underground world of the park. It would be quite an operation to run a theme park of this nature, and they are showing that.

A coworker friend brought up , is the world real or virtual? I'm assuming it's real/physical, ,but it could be virtual I suppose?

They do show the guests arriving by train though

It has to be real. They show workers going into the park interacting with sets and everything else.

BleedingRed 10-11-2016 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 12477082)
It has to be real. They show workers going into the park interacting with sets and everything else.

It's real for sure, when the park employees are taking the bodies out. I'm hooked for sure!

mdchiefsfan 10-11-2016 04:24 PM

Anthony Hopkins' character is awesome in this show. His perception of the world around him, as well as the world he has created, provide some highly interesting moments.

I really enjoyed the monologue referring to Occam's Razor; just great scripting and acting all around.

Anyong Bluth 10-11-2016 06:17 PM

2nd episode delivered for me. 1st episode was fine for getting oriented with the landscape, and not a criticism outside of it just didn't have that 1 scene that delivers the hook. To be fair, the story premise is already the hook.

Favorite theory so far:
Spoiler!


The makeshift oil derrick / cross is a great teaser!

Anyong Bluth 10-11-2016 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unlurking (Post 12465373)
Yeah. I caught Black Hole Sun and Paint it Black, but that was in the second half of the show. I was tempted to go see what songs I didn't notice in the first half.

2nd episode on the piano is a contemporary song and it's on the tip of my brain but can't put it together. It's done really well too as a throwback piano saloon tune.

Figured it out!
Spoiler!

KChiefs1 10-11-2016 07:42 PM

Phenomenal show.



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unlurking 10-11-2016 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth (Post 12478454)
2nd episode delivered for me. 1st episode was fine for getting oriented with the landscape, and not a criticism outside of it just didn't have that 1 scene that delivers the hook. To be fair, the story premise is already the hook.

Favorite theory so far:
Spoiler!


The makeshift oil derrick / cross is a great teaser!

Spoiler!

KC_Lee 10-11-2016 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unlurking (Post 12478625)
Spoiler!

Spoiler!

unlurking 10-11-2016 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 12478640)
Spoiler!

Good point about farm vs. world.

Either way, I haven't seen the original since I was a teenager. Don't remember the full storyline, and don't want to rewatch until after at least the first season!

Anyong Bluth 10-11-2016 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unlurking (Post 12478625)
Spoiler!

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 12478640)
Spoiler!

Spoiler!


... as Billy's friend said he was really interested in finding out who William really is.

Discuss Thrower 10-11-2016 11:41 PM

Holy shit that theory... that would be awesome.

Sad I didn't catch the player piano tune this time around.

Sizemore is a punk

Anyong Bluth 10-12-2016 12:15 AM

I'm sure everyone picked up the violent ends quote triggers the glitch and effectively spreads the awakening from "host" to new "host".

mdchiefsfan 10-12-2016 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 12478640)
Spoiler!

Spoiler!

KevB 10-12-2016 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth (Post 12478917)
I'm sure everyone picked up the violent ends quote triggers the glitch and effectively spreads the awakening from "host" to new "host".

Yep, and you'd think this would spell doom for the host, as it did for Delores' father. However, 2 hosts that are "infected" are clearly stars of the show, so interested to see how this evolves.

Anyong Bluth 10-12-2016 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevB (Post 12479276)
Yep, and you'd think this would spell doom for the host, as it did for Delores' father. However, 2 hosts that are "infected" are clearly stars of the show, so interested to see how this evolves.

Didn't they say her father used to be part of a cannibal cult storyline and a bunch of other messed up characters previously?

Each host may be different including how much trauma there is from all of a sudden recalling A LOT of terrible shit flooding in at once.

mr. tegu 10-12-2016 09:36 PM

What is the significance of the bartender appearing to have black hair in the first episode but then having grey hair in the second episode? It looked like the same guy, just older.

Baby Lee 10-13-2016 03:16 AM

I half love, half HATE, the fact that Abrams is apparently delving back into the narrative possibilities of the conflation of reality, fiction and fictionalized reality.

On one hand, in their beginning stages the storylines spark the imagination and turn the viewing process into an individualized creative process of its own as you dream up 'fanfic' of what it all means.

On the other hand we have LOST, the elephant in the room. The show where all that narrative world-building turned out to be a Potemkin village erected to mask the fact that they had no idea what they were doing in the end.

That said, here's preview footage.

<iframe width="626" height="352" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Bq-E2FZZ3d4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Baby Lee 10-13-2016 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 12480209)
What is the significance of the bartender appearing to have black hair in the first episode but then having grey hair in the second episode? It looked like the same guy, just older.

This is exactly the kind of musing I'm talking about.

In an Abrams world, this kind of detail could be a CRUCIAL plot twist [or meta-narrative insight], or it could be a simple lapse on the continuity coordinator's part, . . . or it could be a once-upon-a-time crucial detail that got abandoned when the writers change their minds, and years from now they'll slyly hint it was a continuity error. . . or was it!!!!!?????

In the moment, it's compelling and satisfying to chew through the narrative details looking for meaning, Only time will tell if we're all a bunch of armchair Sherlocks, or a pile of dumb animals chasing their tails on the porch.

Baby Lee 10-13-2016 05:18 AM

This discussion reminds me of a philosophical quandary that seems to be percolating back up around the show.


What is more terrifying to you

An AI that passes the Turing test?
or
An AI that deliberately fails the Turing test?

Anyong Bluth 10-13-2016 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 12480373)
This discussion reminds me of a philosophical quandary that seems to be percolating back up around the show.


What is more terrifying to you

An AI that passes the Turing test?
or
An AI that deliberately fails the Turing test?

How is the 2nd option not always the answer?

Exhibiting deception means that the new entity has already bitten from the apple and fallen.

I guess you can take consolation in the fact that it happened so quickly that we were predestined to fail and doomed from the start.

It is an interesting premise to present self awareness in an AI as a glitch, and the commentary as it translates to humanity and our relationship to nature, our environment, and one another.

Baby Lee 10-13-2016 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth (Post 12480551)
How is the 2nd option not always the answer?

Exhibiting deception means that the new entity has already bitten from the apple and fallen.

I guess you can take consolation in the fact that it happened so quickly that we were predestined to fail and doomed from the start.

It is an interesting premise to present self awareness in an AI as a glitch, and the commentary as it translates to humanity and our relationship to nature, our environment, and one another.

OK, perhaps 'quandary' is an ill-fitted descriptor. The 2nd option is a more terrifying possibility, but it's not one generally countenanced when assessing the utility of benchmarks such as the Turing test.

That is, 'how disorienting to ponder that the thing we are most fearful of and vigilant against, might not even be the greatest threat we face. . . '

Anyong Bluth 10-13-2016 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 12480613)
OK, perhaps 'quandary' is an ill-fitted descriptor. The 2nd option is a more terrifying possibility, but it's not one generally countenanced when assessing the utility of benchmarks such as the Turing test.

That is, 'how disorienting to ponder that the thing we are most fearful of and vigilant against, might not even be the greatest threat we face. . . '

Lots of big ideas. Fear of AI delves into our need for the illusion of control, and the question itself holds a mirror up to humanity and our capacity for good and evil. The duality of man is always a murky grey area.

No one knows what a digital sentient being would be drawn to. The altruistic better parts of our humanity or the craven vices of the worst of us. Of course, our worst traits are almost all born out of our primal base nature. How would an AI replicate those primordial basic instincts and evolutionary urges and impulses? The part of man not controlled by his prefrontal cortex.

mikeyis4dcats. 10-13-2016 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 12480209)
What is the significance of the bartender appearing to have black hair in the first episode but then having grey hair in the second episode? It looked like the same guy, just older.

i mentioned your thought to someone else

Quote:

"
If I recall correctly, it was the bartender that was reprogrammed to serve as Dolores's father near the end of the first episode. So the bartender in episode 2 was supposed to be a replacement."

mr. tegu 10-13-2016 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats. (Post 12481207)
i mentioned your thought to someone else

I don't think the first bartender is her new father. He looked skinnier and with a smaller build than the bartender. It really looked like the exact same bartender in the episodes, just older. Am I wrong in that?

mikeyis4dcats. 10-13-2016 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 12481231)
I don't think the first bartender is her new father. He looked skinnier and with a smaller build than the bartender. It really looked like the exact same bartender in the episodes, just older. Am I wrong in that?

I dunno, I didn't pay that close of attention to him.


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