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Another Intense Police Shootout

2017- Just released after the suspect was convicted of 2 counts of attempted murder. Trooper Ryan Seiple made a traffic stop on the suspect for speeding at 82 MPH, then initiated a sobriety check. Corporal Seth Kelly was shot 4 times and was clinically dead, before being brought back to life at the hospital.

Video is graphic NSFW

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Prosecutors said the video depicted the two troopers acting professionally and with restraint during a speeding stop Nov. 7 that unexpectedly turned violent. Defense attorney Janet Jackson unsuccessfully argued self-defense, describing Clary as a scared young man who was getting his first speeding ticket, then was surprised when police moved to handcuff him.

The video showed Seiple hand Clary a ticket and begin to drive away, before the motorist motioned for him to come back. As he talked more with Clary, Seiple became suspicious of whether he was driving impaired, leading to field sobriety tests and Kelly’s arrival at the scene on the side of the highway.

It was when troopers tried to arrest Clary on suspicion of driving under the influence of marijuana that chaos erupted.

A melee between Clary and the troopers lasted one minute and six seconds. The gun battle that followed, just 41 seconds.

Before he ran to his car, grabbed a gun and opened fire, Clary and the troopers grappled on the ground, Clary trying to grab their service handguns and continuing to struggle even after he was repeatedly shocked with stun guns.

The video showed Clary grabbing the handle of Kelly’s holstered gun early in the struggle, before the troopers used their Tasers or punched him.

Clary tried to grab both troopers’ pistols, and succeeded in dislodging the ammunition magazine of Seiple’s. A spare firearm of Kelly’s fell to the ground at one point, which Seiple later picked up, disarmed and threw to the side.

Seiple used his Taser on Clary twice and punched him five times, according to trial testimony. Kelly tasered Clary five times, threw nine punches and kneed him once.

According to a state police expert who examined the video frame-by-frame, Clary and Seiple shot at each other simultaneously, as Clary pointed a handgun at police.

Clary fired all six of his gun’s bullets, Kelly fired 21 rounds and Seiple fired 20 rounds.

Clary, 22, of Chestnuthill Township, was wounded in the gunfight, driving himself to Easton Hospital with injuries that included a bullet lodged in his head.

Clary could face decades in prison when he is sentenced Aug. 31 by Baratta.

http://www.mcall.com/news/police/mc-...706-story.html

Saw that one in the Police Activity channel. Crazy.

Jesus. I'm surprised that two cops weren't able to subdue him.

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 13671442)

Jesus. I'm surprised that two cops weren't able to subdue him.

Just goes to show it doesn't matter how big or small a person is, its all about will to fight.

Just shows you that, contrary to what most people think, tasers aren't 100% effective. Shit can go south in a manner of seconds when you are dealing with people that don't want to go to jail. I'm glad I don't do that shit anymore.

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Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 13671452)

Just goes to show it doesn't matter how big or small a person is, its all about will to fight.

And they were really pounding on him, too. I guess he really wanted to get to that gun.

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 13671458)

And they were really pounding on him, too. I guess he really wanted to get to that gun. Did they catch him after?

He drove himself to the hospital with GSW injuries where he was arrested.

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Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 13671452)

Just goes to show it doesn't matter how big or small a person is, its all about will to fight.

Was that will to fight or something more, such as PCP?

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 13671470)

Was that will to fight or something more, such as PCP?

As far as I know he was just drunk.

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 13671458)

And they were really pounding on him, too. I guess he really wanted to get to that gun.

They didn’t pound that ****ing thug enough

My heart goes out to those 2 & their families. That said, just terrible technique in subduing the perp. Both cops need retrained.

DC, I know it's easy to be an armchair QB but what is your opinion of how the cops handled this? And what mistakes, if any, did they make?

Jesus ****. **** that bitch.

my god, do those police have access to a weight room? Couple of squeaks. Maybe some cardio too.

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 13671502)

DC, I know it's easy to be an armchair QB but what is your opinion of how the cops handled this? And what mistakes, if any, did they make?

Well my first impression was one thing they did wrong was keep telling the guy to get on his back when they meant stomach. But that’s easy to do under that kind of stress. However after watching a breakdown of the video by Gracie Jiu-Jitsu experts they made a very valid point. We in LE rush to put people on their stomachs to handcuff them. But that allows a table platform to occur if they are combative (knees and hands). That allows for a strong fighting base. While it wasn’t their fault (that’s gow we have all been trained) it’s definitely food for thought.

The second was the flagging of Corporal Kelly by Trooper Seiple at the drivers rear of the suspect vehicle. Could have ended up much worse (blue on blue) but thankfully that was avoided.