In many ways, it sounds like they're taking the opposite tack of that of Marvel: Instead of a bunch of standalone movies that lead to The Avengers, BvS and Justice League come before the stand alone films, minus Man of Steel.

I get the feeling that BvS will be viewed as a better film that makes much more sense in 2020.

In a similar vein, I've watched Man of Steel several times in recent days on FX... gotta say it definitely gets better with multiple viewings, the acting is excellent and the action is even better

The fight scenes are genuinely epic

Some of you have hit on the problem. It's in the title. This wasn't a Batman movie, and it wasn't a Superman movie, and thus had no identity. Most of the first half seemed like a Superman movie, just a continuation of "MoS", with occasional glimpses of grumpy Affleck as Bruce Wayne. There was precious little Batman in it. Then, near the end, after the faceoff with Supes, Batman finally got one good fight scene and I said, "Okay, this is more like it, reminiscent of the Nolan films," and then it was done. At least Marvel is smart enough to tie films more to single characters (although I have a feeling "Captain America: Civil War" will be a Captain America vehicle in name only, and probably could've been called "Captain America vs. Iron Man").

The thing is, I had no problem with the storyline of most of the film, although they dragged it out. If they'd made Batman's change of heart more believable, gotten a better Luthor with more exposition about why he is the way he is, given a bit more screen time to Wonder Woman, improved the CGI for Doomsday, and removed the beginning part (because, as has been said, we really have no need to see little Batman fall into the cave), this movie would've went from mediocre to fairly decent.

And, honestly, people love to pick on DC, but Marvel's films have not been great, with the exception of the three Captain America films. The first "Iron Man" was very good, "Iron Man 2" was bleh, and "Iron Man 3" was a horrible assrape of every fanboy's mind. "Thor" was okay but boring, and "Thor 2" was better but still wasn't great. "Avengers" was very good but we forget there are only two real action setpieces (the helicarrier scene and the final battle) and the rest is a lot of talking. "Ultron" was a piece of crap. Granted, "GotG" and "Deadpool" were pretty damn good, but before that it wasn't like Marvel was wowing us at every turn...

Just saw it again. Actually liked it a bit more the second time.

This is probably spoiler worthy.

It may very well be. The thought actually crossed my mind... with the way studios are becoming eager to "split up" movies unnecessarily, like the Hunger Games... I'm amazed WB didn't do that here, they could've made three different movies out of this film. But I get it, they want to get into Justice League before Marvel finishes The Avengers.

There's a lot of stuff that needs to be explained. The dreams, particularly, and the Flash appearance. Things that could influence the long-term reception to the movie. If they pay off later - in a good way... - it could be pretty neat.

One thing I caught today that I missed yesterday was Carol Ferris. Remember the officer who says Superman is kind of hot at the end of MoS? That's her, and she was briefly in BvS, too. Hello Hal Jordan?

Ok, got tickets to see this at the late show in the Prime theater. I figure if it sucks ass that I'm still seeing it in a Prime theater and at least I'll be comfy, lol.

I actually just saw it in Prime. First time doing that. Pretty cool.

I remember seeing Captain Ferris at the end of MoS saying how Supes was hot. She was the general's driver. I wondered if she could be a precursor to Hal and the Green Lantern Corp.

Prime's the shit. I'm totally ruined on Prime now. It's pricey, but so worth it imo.

Congrats on popping your Prime cherry. :)

That's along the lines of what I thought.

Actually...

IMAX was better visually. There was something like 40 minutes shot in the format and I could actually see the difference today. Big chunk of the bottom of the screen in one of the dream sequences just wasn't there. I was like 'huh, I guess that diagram of the difference in screen sizes that I saw online yesterday wasn't full of shit after all.'

I think they probably cut a lot of stuff that would've made Lex' s actions make more sense. It's weird seeing a Zach Snyder movie where I think more exposition might've helped.

Interesting.

I can't stand 3D. More specifically, I can't stand 3D movies where the movie wasn't filmed in that medium but shown in it anyway. Probably why I just never even consider going to a 3D movie anymore. Though if done correctly, it's great.