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Ralphy Boy 10-06-2010 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 7062793)
I don't like it. Snyder is all style over substance. 300 and Watchmen are both soulless eye-candy. Off of the list from the end of September, he was the guy I wanted the least. Although maybe if it ends up with a melding of the heart and emotion of Nolan's films with Snyder's artistic style and eye for action, then maybe it will be worth it. Otherwise we're going to end up with a long, pretty Superman movie that under the shiny plastic surface is cold and dull.

So basically the second Superman movie will be just like the last one?

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7062803)
**** Dark Knight. Bale's acting was awful, the plot was ridiculously convoluted, the ending sucked, and Maggie Gyllenhaal is uglier than a bulldog's asshole. And Ledger's Joker did nothing for me. And NO, I don't give a **** that he drugged himself to death, nor do I think he deserved an Oscar because of it. My apologies to all of you out there who keep candlelit shrines to the guy in your closets.

I thought Ledger was fantastic as the Joker and I don't give a crap that he died. Yes his death made people pay more attention to it than they would have otherwise, but I think that, even if he'd have lived, most would still say that it was the best villian ever played in a comic book adaptation.

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 7062805)
I loved Ledger's joker. About a trillion times better than Nicholson's.

Both were completely different interpretations of the Batman genre as were the versions of Joker. Under Burton with Keaton & Nicholson they tried to walk the line between campy and dark. Almost a nod to the television series with Adam west, yet still trying to capture the darker side of the dark knight.

Schumacher was basically pure glamour and visually cartoonlike. I really didn't care for either of his versions.

Nolan went completely dark in a much more gritty adaptation that featured more believable villians. I believe it appealed more to the people in my own age range than any of the others.

I really don't care for Bale and hate the way he changes his voice when he puts on the mask, but I don't care to see them recast the film for fear of it following the same fate of Schumachers films.

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 7062812)
Bale's acting is awful, but Michael Keaton was . . . Better? Please.

The ending was true to the spirit of Batman. I disagree re: convolution of plot, especially when you compare it to Watchmen.

Maggie Gyllenhaal's looks are irrelevant to the actual film. Ledger's joker was gritty and realistic within the context of the universe. Sorry you don't agree, because it was really quite good.

Agreed

Tribal Warfare 10-06-2010 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 7066839)
Christopher Nolan is involved, so Jor-El will probably be Michael Caine.

Perry White

Ralphy Boy 10-06-2010 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Taco John (Post 7064990)
I'm very curious how he will be cast. I'm hoping that he goes in the direction of the elder statesman, and not the young hunk. I don't want to see a Jude Law or Tom Hardy Zod. I'd be very open to seeing Terence Stamp reprise the role, but if that's out of the question, then who better to play the ultimate supervillain than the ultimate villain character actor: Alan Rickman.

Here I was reading your entire post, agreeing with everything you'd written and thinking to myself "Taco is alright when he's not talking football" and then you throw in a geriatric 65 year old as the "ultimate villain charactor". Rickman is too old, IMO, to really be believable as a threat to the Man of Steel. Don't really have an answer as to whom would be better.

Also, from what I've read, it involves Brainiac & Luthor, not Zod.

I'd love to see a live action Doomsday.

007 10-06-2010 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Ralphy Boy (Post 7066973)
Here I was reading your entire post, agreeing with everything you'd written and thinking to myself "Taco is alright when he's not talking football" and then you throw in a geriatric 65 year old as the "ultimate villain charactor". Rickman is too old, IMO, to really be believable as a threat to the Man of Steel. Don't really have an answer as to whom would be better.

Also, from what I've read, it involves Brainiac & Luthor, not Zod.

I'd love to see a live action Doomsday.

Keep in mind that Zod was the age of Supermans father.

007 10-06-2010 07:40 PM

You know, why do we have a Superman icon but not a Batman?

Ralphy Boy 10-06-2010 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 7067034)
Keep in mind that Zod was the age of Supermans father.

Well aware of that. Just don't see a geriatric as being a formidable opponent. I know its science fiction but I'm becoming a skeptic in my old age.

007 10-06-2010 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ralphy Boy (Post 7067101)
Well aware of that. Just don't see a geriatric as being a formidable opponent. I know its science fiction but I'm becoming a skeptic in my old age.

All I know is that Luthor had better be a side villain rather than the main villain and I hope they get rid of all the comedy for this one as well.

keg in kc 10-06-2010 08:54 PM

The only thing I didn't like about the Singer superman was the son.

DaneMcCloud 10-06-2010 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 7067191)
The only thing I didn't like about the Singer superman was the son.

Really?

I HATED the story. ENOUGH with Lex Luthor. There's 70 ****ing years of Superman lore. Why should there be ANOTHER movie featuring Lex Luthor? It's PLAYED.

I HATED Kate Bosworth. What's up with that? An unappealing Lois Lane at age 23? So we're supposed to believe that Clark Kent boned her when she was 19?

Marsden sucked. That Indie **** Parker Posey, who only does studio movies when she's out of money, sucked. And while Spacey's Luthor was "okay", it wasn't earth shattering.

I HATED the "look" they added in post. Too color drenched, yet at times, too much soft lens.

Overall, much like the Chiefs 2009 draft, I give it an F-.

It's despicable that Warners even allowed that movie to be made when there is SO much source material available that far exceeds Singer's dopey script and direction.

KcMizzou 10-06-2010 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 7067036)
You know, why do we have a Superman icon but not a Batman?

The Goddamn Batman doesn't need silly icons.

http://www.merrickmonroe.com/wp-cont...amn-batman.jpg

keg in kc 10-06-2010 09:04 PM

The main problem was trying to do a 21st century superman movie that was a sequel to a 1980 movie. Hence lex, lois with a kid, etc. I thought they should have rebooted completely, which they are now. But I enjoyed the movie despite that. Albeit not to the point that I've seen it more than a couple times. It's one of those "catch it by chance on HBO" movies.

Ralphy Boy 10-06-2010 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 7067158)
All I know is that Luthor had better be a side villain rather than the main villain and I hope they get rid of all the comedy for this one as well.

Completely agree. Luthor should take a back seat, he's a meddling presence in my mind and definitely not the lead. Smallville did some of that character justice by keeping his behind the scenes issues hidden from Superman's view and then Zod in Lex's body.

Between Zod, Brainiac & Doomsday they have plenty to work with. I really don't think any of the big name directors really get it. Even Kevin Smith screwed up his shot at the franchise when he bowed to execs and ended up putting down a horrible script.

I really wanted to like Returns, but it failed. I liked the original one and that was really it II was okay. Richard Pryor, are you freaking kidding me?

If anyone can save/make the movie franchise worthy of my dollars, its Nolan. Cinematically I don't think there is anyone that is as capable as him. With him and Snyder, I'm expecting good things.

Silock 10-06-2010 09:43 PM

The thing is, Lex is pretty much a badass in the recent comics. A really dark Lex would be awesome, but probably not good as the lead villain in yet another movie.

007 10-06-2010 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 7067214)
The Goddamn Batman doesn't need silly icons.

http://www.merrickmonroe.com/wp-cont...amn-batman.jpg

Well, I can't really argue with The Batman now can I.ROFL:clap:

007 10-06-2010 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ralphy Boy (Post 7067272)
Completely agree. Luthor should take a back seat, he's a meddling presence in my mind and definitely not the lead. Smallville did some of that character justice by keeping his behind the scenes issues hidden from Superman's view and then Zod in Lex's body.

Between Zod, Brainiac & Doomsday they have plenty to work with. I really don't think any of the big name directors really get it. Even Kevin Smith screwed up his shot at the franchise when he bowed to execs and ended up putting down a horrible script.

I really wanted to like Returns, but it failed. I liked the original one and that was really it II was okay. Richard Pryor, are you freaking kidding me?

If anyone can save/make the movie franchise worthy of my dollars, its Nolan. Cinematically I don't think there is anyone that is as capable as him. With him and Snyder, I'm expecting good things.

I just wish Nolan was actually directing it.


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