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the Talking Can 12-04-2012 03:26 PM

weird

other than $, not sure this is a good move for either school

DJ's left nut 12-04-2012 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by NewChief (Post 9180603)
The theory down here, which I tend to favor, is that Arkansas needs a "niche" that doesn't overlap with the other SEC West teams. If we're trying to compete in recruiting and such in those areas in which they (Alabama and LSU) already excel, we're going to lose out. However, if we become known for our great receivers and QBs, then we're distinct from our competitors and may draw some of those 4-5 stars at those positions. We need our own distinct identity separate from the rest of the West, otherwise we're doomed to always be below the other programs.

That's my hope with Mizzou. We're not going to 'outBama' Alabama, we're going to have to beat them some other way.

For Mizzou, it should be focusing in high-end QB talent and skill players and utilizing rapidly developing offensive plays to help neutralize the massive advantages that Alabama, LSU, etc... are likely to have in the trenches.

That's why I hope Mizzou sticks with the spread - we need to zig while the traditional powers zag. We'll never be an annual championship contender like that, but that wasn't going to happen anyway. What it could allow us to do is what we did in Daniel's Junior year or even what Arky did from 2010-2011. Catch the right QB and the right mix of skill position players and maybe you'll get a nice 2-4 year run where you're running with the big dogs and are a break here and there from being in the championship equation.

Try to go the 'conventional' route in the SEC and you're likely to just be another Ol' Miss.

htismaqe 12-04-2012 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by NewChief (Post 9180603)
The theory down here, which I tend to favor, is that Arkansas needs a "niche" that doesn't overlap with the other SEC West teams. If we're trying to compete in recruiting and such in those areas in which they (Alabama and LSU) already excel, we're going to lose out. However, if we become known for our great receivers and QBs, then we're distinct from our competitors and may draw some of those 4-5 stars at those positions. We need our own distinct identity separate from the rest of the West, otherwise we're doomed to always be below the other programs.

That's the way I see it.

This appears to be an attempt to "match" Alabama and LSU. What it will likely end up being is that Arkansas is a somewhat lesser copy of the two.

Bearcat 12-04-2012 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ncCHIEFfan (Post 9180445)
What is it with that University and conservative football

...and basketball, and hockey.

If you asked someone in Madison what year it is, I wonder what the answer would be..

big nasty kcnut 12-04-2012 04:10 PM

He's a good coach that know how to win. You want something flashy get a loser like spurrier.

displacedinMN 12-04-2012 05:10 PM

BB was hand picked to be the replacement for Alverez. As mentioned-worked and played under great people. Fry, Snyder, Alverez.

He is much hated by non-Wisconsin fans. He has no problem dumping 70 on Indiana but then turns around and gets killed in the Rose Bowl by TCU.

He can recruit to Wisky, many want to go there, and has a great fan base.

Maybe is the type that figures been there, done that and wants a new challenge. Typical in coaches.

I don't see Ark as a better move. Warmer- and the exposure of the SEC. Maybe angling for a move to the NFL in 3 years.

Bewbies 12-04-2012 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9180611)
Don't get me wrong, it wasn't a Big 10 versus SEC thought. I was saying moving to Arkansas is a step down. Yes, it's the SEC, and, yes, that's a big deal, but the school itself is not exactly a football power. Going to be up to him to try to turn them into one. But basically he's going from a place where he was always in the hunt for a conference championship (and a BCS bid...) to a school where he's just...not.

But there are reasons to do that, as i said. Better pay. Better facilities. No Barry Alvarez as AD.

And it could work...

People don't buy this if they're not down south, but the Arkansas job is one of the tops in the whole country. They have a rabid fan base, crazy resources, and play in the best conference in the nation.

I'm a UGA fan, and I'd honestly put Arkansas a bit below UF/Bama/LSU, probably even with UGA and Tennessee. I'll give you OSU/Michigan/USC as maybe the only couple that jump in front of that group. Maybe, and I mean maybe, you can throw Texas in there too.

Bewbies 12-04-2012 05:20 PM

I think if he wasn't such a piece of shit Petrino would have won a national championship or two for the Hogs.

NewChief 12-04-2012 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 9180875)
I think if he wasn't such a piece of shit Petrino would have won a national championship or two for the Hogs.

I agree that we were headed in te right direction which is one reason that whole deal hurts so bad. The chance of us catching lightning in a bottle again like we did with Petrino is slim.

Bewbies 12-04-2012 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by NewChief (Post 9180887)
I agree that we were headed in te right direction which is one reason that whole deal hurts so bad. The chance of us catching lightning in a bottle again like we did with Petrino is slim.

Sometimes when you dance with the devil you get burned I guess.

BB will be a winner down there though. Saban will be gone soon, and then the SECW is wide open again...

LiveSteam 12-04-2012 05:26 PM

When Bret shows up with a fat lip & a black eye. you can be sure that it was Barry Alvarez that kicked his ass.

NewChief 12-04-2012 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 9180895)
Sometimes when you dance with the devil you get burned I guess.

BB will be a winner down there though. Saban will be gone soon, and then the SECW is wide open again...

I really hope so as far as BB.

displacedinMN 12-04-2012 05:28 PM

:clap:
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Originally Posted by LiveSteam (Post 9180898)
When Bret shows up with a fat lip & a black eye. you can be sure that it was Barry Alvarez that kicked his ass.


htismaqe 12-04-2012 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 9180859)
People don't buy this if they're not down south, but the Arkansas job is one of the tops in the whole country. They have a rabid fan base, crazy resources, and play in the best conference in the nation.

I'm a UGA fan, and I'd honestly put Arkansas a bit below UF/Bama/LSU, probably even with UGA and Tennessee. I'll give you OSU/Michigan/USC as maybe the only couple that jump in front of that group. Maybe, and I mean maybe, you can throw Texas in there too.

Sorry I had to...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHpeHR1wpGI

NewChief 12-04-2012 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9180910)

If you never need to explain to someone the point where rabid turns to creepily batshit nuts, that's the video. Online Arkansas fans hate Liz now.


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