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Rain Man 07-09-2020 01:07 PM

Part of Oklahoma (kind of) secedes from the United States
 
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The Supreme Court ruled today that a big chunk of Oklahoma is actually a Native American reservation, including most of Tulsa. Apparently this impacts what laws apply, so state law may not exist in Tulsa any more.

Link below. Apparently the Muscogee Indians argued that their reservation was never officially taken away when Oklahoma became a state. The government believed that statehood rendered the reservation moot, but the Supreme Court disagrees. So as of today we now have an enormous reservation that apparently controls Tulsa, and I bet they buy Dan Snyder's team once they kill off all of the illegal settlers and take their stuff.

I wonder about the other Indian lands now. It seems like other Indian tribes can make the same argument.

https://theturtleislandnews.com/inde...l-reservation/

RealSNR 07-09-2020 01:15 PM

So the only remaining (kind of) state of Oklahoma is the panhandle?

Discuss Thrower 07-09-2020 01:17 PM

If the local tribes are savvy then they'd turn Tulsa into a tax haven.

Rain Man 07-09-2020 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 15058990)
So the only remaining (kind of) state of Oklahoma is the panhandle?

It's hard to figure out, but I think the new reservation is the Muscogee area in the middle of the map. I think there are other reservations that exist already, too. But I'm wondering if all of those Indian lands in the map will hop on the bandwagon.

BigRedChief 07-09-2020 01:18 PM

Wellll we all know we ****ed over the Indians. Here lay down your arms. We will give you this worthless land. Binding legal agreements signed. Later it has value, sorry our bad, GTFO

Halfcan 07-09-2020 01:19 PM

I guess the residents in these areas will have to be put on a long march somewhere to be relocated.

LiveSteam 07-09-2020 01:19 PM

Trail of beers

Rain Man 07-09-2020 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 15058997)
If the local tribes are savvy then they'd turn Tulsa into a tax haven.

I'm curious what happens if you own a house or business there. Doesn't the tribe own everything on the reservation? I could be wrong on that, and maybe different tribes do things differently.

Rain Man 07-09-2020 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 15059002)
I guess the residents in these areas will have to be put on a long march somewhere to be relocated.

That would be unprecedented. Well, almost.

Rain Man 07-09-2020 01:22 PM

Apparently this all came about because a convicted pedophile argued that the state couldn't prosecute him because the land was actually Native land and not the state. He threw up a complete hail mary that's going to cause all sorts of problems, and may actually work for him.

Hydrae 07-09-2020 01:23 PM

The Navajo land in northern Arizona is a separate entity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navajo_Nation#Government

I thought this was interesting:

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The United States still asserts plenary power and thus requires the territory of the Navajo Nation to submit all proposed laws to the United States Secretary of the Interior for Secretarial Review, through the Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA).

The US Supreme Court in United States v. Kagama (1889) affirmed that Congress has plenary power over all Indian tribes within United States borders, saying that "The power of the general government over these remnants of a race once powerful ... is necessary to their protection as well as to the safety of those among whom they dwell".[18] It noted that the tribes did not owe allegiance to the states within which their reservations were located.[19]

Most conflicts and controversies between the federal government of the United States and the Nation are settled by negotiations outlined in political agreements. The Navajo Nation Code comprises the rules and laws of the Navajo Nation as currently codified in the latest edition.

BigRedChief 07-09-2020 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 15059010)
That would be unprecedented. Well, almost.

LMAO well played sir, well played.:thumb:

Kiimo 07-09-2020 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Hydrae (Post 15059021)
The Navajo land in northern Arizona is a separate entity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navajo_Nation#Government

I thought this was interesting:


I've driven through it. It's weird as hell, pulling people over to search their cars like the border in Mexico

Shaid 07-09-2020 01:31 PM

Everyone currently living on the reservation, including all of Tulsa, can vote to be part of Oklahoma. Problem solved.

Fish 07-09-2020 01:36 PM

Let's invade!


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