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Pasta Little Brioni 11-08-2011 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Brainiac (Post 8091290)
I'm almost ready to quit watching. Season 2 is extremely slow compared to the first season.

OMG I NEEDZ MOAR EXPOSIONS!!!!

aturnis 11-08-2011 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8091362)
Clearly not Sophia:

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/ncuNcSLdFKY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Seems to me that scene if from after he woke up, on his way to Atlanta, before he completely ran out of gas and wound up at the farm where he got the horse. The reason I think it's from that point is, he's clean shaven, he shaved before he left. He's in search of gas, which he needed for his cruiser. He seems a little naive to the possibility the little girl is a zombie, and tries to help her. He's still wearing his uniform, which, it seems he "hung up" at the end of the last episode...

Fish 11-08-2011 10:58 AM

I thought the zombie in the well scene was some great film work. From the camera work, to the palpable disappointment after things went wrong, that was an impressive scene.

And I'm not sure what to think about the house that Daryl found, and what that's supposed to mean. It looked like he found a little cubby hideaway that Sophia(a child at least) could have been sleeping in. But then they just kinda dropped it and didn't touch on it again. When he talked to Carol and gave her the flower, I was expecting something else being found in the house that would give us a clue about Sophia.

blaise 11-08-2011 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 8091663)
I thought the zombie in the well scene was some great film work. From the camera work, to the palpable disappointment after things went wrong, that was an impressive scene.

And I'm not sure what to think about the house that Daryl found, and what that's supposed to mean. It looked like he found a little cubby hideaway that Sophia(a child at least) could have been sleeping in. But then they just kinda dropped it and didn't touch on it again. When he talked to Carol and gave her the flower, I was expecting something else being found in the house that would give us a clue about Sophia.

I know. He didn't check the upstairs either, did he?

Chiefnj2 11-08-2011 11:05 AM

Why aren't the zombies always attacking the farm to eat the horses?

Huffmeister 11-08-2011 12:41 PM

At some point in the series, I'd like to see them do flashbacks for all of the characters to see how they ended up where they did when the outbreak hit. But at this point in time, I do wish they would speed up the main story a bit.

aturnis 11-08-2011 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8091680)
Why aren't the zombies always attacking the farm to eat the horses?

Or just the house b/c of all the lights they have on. In the first season, Shane wouldn't let anyone throw an extra log on the fire for warmth and made them keep it at just coals in order to not be seen from a distance. Why is that not a concern for the farm.

keg in kc 11-08-2011 02:20 PM

I'm thinking the whole thing is fenced in. They made a point about asking Glenn if he'd closed the gate behind them.

Huffmeister 11-08-2011 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 8092372)
I'm thinking the whole thing is fenced in. They made a point about asking Glenn if he'd closed the gate behind them.

Yeah, I was thinking that too. But then how did the walker get into the well? Someone leave the gate open, or did they put up the fence/barrier after the breakout?

bevischief 11-08-2011 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Huffmeister (Post 8092375)
Yeah, I was thinking that too. But then how did the walker get into the well? Someone leave the gate open, or did they put up the fence/barrier after the breakout?

After the breakout.

TheSourceX1 11-08-2011 06:38 PM

1 zombie in the episode huh? (flashback zombies don't count)Does Walking Dead refer to the writers because this novella is going downhill fast.
A farm fence can stop zombies? oh except for the one that found his way into the well instead of walking towards the lights and sounds from the house? Only 1?
The only thing that can save this series is the death of a main character ... and not the token black guy or old man either.

Sure-Oz 11-08-2011 08:32 PM

I'm waiting for the season to get going...1st season is tons better so far, esp the first few eps. amazing television

Deberg_1990 11-08-2011 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 8093277)
I'm waiting for the season to get going...1st season is tons better so far, esp the first few eps. amazing television

Yea, we are starting to feel the 'lack of Darabont" effect i think.....and i hope the cut in budget isnt why we are seeing less zombies this year and basically less movement but it most likely is. Hey, lets stick around on the farm for 4 episodes!

Sure-Oz 11-08-2011 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 8093501)
Yea, we are starting to feel the 'lack of Darabont" effect i think.....and i hope the cut in budget isnt why we are seeing less zombies this year and basically less movement but it most likely is. Hey, lets stick around on the farm for 4 episodes!

Yeah, they need to pick it up, i'm surprised it's been this slow. Hopefully all hell breaks loose soon.

Buck 11-09-2011 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 8093501)
Yea, we are starting to feel the 'lack of Darabont" effect i think.....and i hope the cut in budget isnt why we are seeing less zombies this year and basically less movement but it most likely is. Hey, lets stick around on the farm for 4 episodes!

Maybe they wanted to have a homestretch of awesome episodes and had to save the budget for them.

Sure-Oz 11-09-2011 12:14 AM

Just saw a commercial for it a min ago, showing a shit ton of heli's heading to a city...interesting

Buck 11-09-2011 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 8093845)
Just saw a commercial for it a min ago, showing a shit ton of heli's heading to a city...interesting

Helicopters?

The Helicopter plays a pretty big role in the comic, but it seems like it would be much further down the line than this.

NJChiefsFan 11-09-2011 12:54 AM

I personally am not that pissed about the show right now. I would like it to pick up, but its not really pissing me off that much.

While I was reading World War Z I started thinking the best way to handle this would be to put a huge noise along with livestock in a specific spot and after all the zombies got there you could just drop bombs and repeat the process.

Jawshco 11-09-2011 01:23 AM

I really liked the last episode. The Well Zombie was so awesomely gross my wife almost vomited. I'm invested in these characters, so seeing the Maggie and Glen hook-up begin was awesome. Obviously, Rick's wife is now carrying his best buddy's baby. This story isn't about Zombies. It's about these people living in the Zombie infested world. Ha! You non-comic reading Walking Dead readers are going to crap when you see who else hooks up. I have no idea where Sophie is, but the real question is... "What's in the Barn?" Dang! I can't wait. I love the Walking Dead.

Deberg_1990 11-09-2011 07:23 AM

Im curious if they will end on a cliffhanger when the show ends its 1/2 season run here in a few weeks? My guess would be yes.

bevischief 11-09-2011 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Buck (Post 8093847)
Helicopters?

The Helicopter plays a pretty big role in the comic, but it seems like it would be much further down the line than this.

We know where this heading too...

cabletech94 11-09-2011 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jawshco (Post 8093969)
I really liked the last episode. The Well Zombie was so awesomely gross my wife almost vomited. I'm invested in these characters, so seeing the Maggie and Glen hook-up begin was awesome. Obviously, Rick's wife is now carrying his best buddy's baby. This story isn't about Zombies. It's about these people living in the Zombie infested world. Ha! You non-comic reading Walking Dead readers are going to crap when you see who else hooks up. I have no idea where Sophie is, but the real question is... "What's in the Barn?" Dang! I can't wait. I love the Walking Dead.

shhhhhhhhhhhh. you're ruining the surprise!

Aries Walker 11-09-2011 04:24 PM

Well, I haven't read the comics, but I did think it was pretty crafty how Hershel subtly steered Rick away from the barn. Plus, with the way they have it looming in the background, it's becoming a kind of Chekhov's gun.

Brock 11-09-2011 06:59 PM

There's another comic being made into a movie with a similar premise. Check out "Crossed".

I don't care if it's old news, comic nerds.

Deberg_1990 11-09-2011 08:47 PM

Spoiler!

Buck 11-09-2011 08:52 PM

And then you spoiled it here for the people who don't watch that. Thanks.

chasedude 11-09-2011 11:05 PM

I knew the Asian kid was gonna tap that ass.

If this was on HBO, Showtime we would've seen some tittys!

aturnis 11-09-2011 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Buck (Post 8095965)
And then you spoiled it here for the people who don't watch that. Thanks.

It was in the "next week on The Walking Dead" preview immediately following the show. Like during credits, pay attention!

aturnis 11-09-2011 11:18 PM

For those who haven't seen it, Chiller network is looking to cash in on the Zombie mania success of The Walking Dead. Here's a video, it's called "REMAINS".

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/SOI357NyUgw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

KcMizzou 11-09-2011 11:21 PM

I'm almost at zombie overload now. Too much of a good thing.

cabletech94 11-10-2011 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 8095947)
Spoiler!

i did. wasn't gonna say anything tho. goosebumps!!!

kaplin42 11-10-2011 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 8096429)
For those who haven't seen it, Chiller network is looking to cash in on the Zombie mania success of The Walking Dead. Here's a video, it's called "REMAINS".

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/SOI357NyUgw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

I'm in!

Looks more like the revamped zombie nightmare. A cross between 28 Days later and the Dawn of the Dead where zombies run.

Zombie apocalypse terrifying no doubt, but if you make the zombies run, OMFG /shitpants

blaise 11-10-2011 10:36 AM

It looked like Lt. Daniels from the Wire in that clip.

Buck 11-10-2011 02:14 PM

What the ****? There is a channel called Chiller or is that a movie?

Fish 11-10-2011 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Buck (Post 8097690)
What the ****? There is a channel called Chiller or is that a movie?

Channel: http://www.chillertv.com/

blaise 11-10-2011 03:12 PM

Chiller is a decent channel.

NewChief 11-11-2011 06:21 AM

Just watched "Cherokee Rose." It was an enjoyable episode. As others pointed out, though, the big "twist" at the end was incredibly lame. Once again, it just shows them stretching out things that don't necessarily need to be stretched out.

Spoiler!

KC_Connection 11-11-2011 06:29 AM

Merle needs to shake things up this coming week, maybe force Rick into actually doing something interesting.

Deberg_1990 11-11-2011 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 8099353)
Merle needs to shake things up this coming week, maybe force Rick into actually doing something interesting.

Rick and TDawg vs. Daryl and Merle. Cage match style!
Posted via Mobile Device

NewChief 11-11-2011 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 8099738)
Rick and TDawg vs. Daryl and Merle. Cage match style!
Posted via Mobile Device

The Merle and Daryl dynamic could be really interesting. Daryl is obviously starting to feel for his new "family," some. So it will be interesting to see what happens when Merle comes back and creates conflict.


I predict that Daryl will end up choosing the new family over Merle.

chasedude 11-11-2011 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 8099738)
Rick and TDawg vs. Daryl and Merle. Cage match style!
Posted via Mobile Device

Remember Merle is without one hand, I have to go Rick and TDawg.

raybec 4 11-11-2011 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by chasedude (Post 8099889)
Remember Merle is without one hand, I have to go Rick and TDawg.

Merle kicked the shit out of T-dawg and Rick at the same time. I go with the red necks.

NewChief 11-11-2011 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 8099984)
Merle kicked the shit out of T-dawg and Rick at the same time. I go with the red necks.

Merle will snort a big line of the blue and then go apeshit on 'em.

chasedude 11-11-2011 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by NewChief (Post 8100002)
Merle will snort a big line of the blue and then go apeshit on 'em.

I bet he's raided every pharmacy for sudafed and is cookin up a big batch now!

Deberg_1990 11-11-2011 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by NewChief (Post 8099826)
The Merle and Daryl dynamic could be really interesting. Daryl is obviously starting to feel for his new "family," some. So it will be interesting to see what happens when Merle comes back and creates conflict.


I predict that Daryl will end up choosing the new family over Merle.

Daryl is a character that they have obviously "softened" this season. Still a cool character though.
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jiveturkey 11-11-2011 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 8100066)
Daryl is a character that they have obviously "softened" this season. Still a cool character though.
Posted via Mobile Device

I agree. If I was in a similar situation Daryl would be my first round pick from that group.

seaofred 11-11-2011 02:43 PM

I bet Merle is just a figment of Daryl's imagination.

cabletech94 11-11-2011 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by seaofred (Post 8100244)
I bet Merle is just a figment of Daryl's imagination.

i actually had this thought myself. but, i don't think it will happen. great idea. i'll give you casino cash if you end up being right (but only because i didn't post it)!

Deberg_1990 11-11-2011 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by seaofred (Post 8100244)
I bet Merle is just a figment of Daryl's imagination.

Possibly...perhaps thats why AMC didnt mind spoiling it?

NJChiefsFan 11-11-2011 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by seaofred (Post 8100244)
I bet Merle is just a figment of Daryl's imagination.

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 8100985)
Possibly...perhaps thats why AMC didnt mind spoiling it?

Thats what I was thinking. Why spoil such a shocking return? Yeah to pump up the next episode, but I don't know. Kinda got the feeling it isn't a "true" return, but who knows.

Caseyguyrr 11-11-2011 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 8072910)
heh, i kind of thought the same thing. Maybe turn up the brightness on your tv to compensate? : )


Can anyone tell me why the farmhouse has electricity and running water?

it's a tv show, thats why

NJChiefsFan 11-11-2011 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Caseyguyrr (Post 8101157)
it's a tv show, thats why

They mentioned the generator. There are a number of shows, especially recently, that go out of their way to account for answers to almost everything. Almost inviting the viewers to look for loopholes. Plenty of shows try taking on this challenge, none more so than Lost. Not sure the "its a TV show, calm down" is fair anymore.

blaise 11-12-2011 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Caseyguyrr (Post 8101157)
it's a tv show, thats why

Yeah, why don't they just pull out laser guns and shoot the zombies.

Pasta Little Brioni 11-12-2011 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by cabletech94 (Post 8100257)
i actually had this thought myself. but, i don't think it will happen. great idea. i'll give you casino cash if you end up being right (but only because i didn't post it)!

Other than the fact he interacted with all the main charactars you'd be right ROFL He's real dude. I think it was a joke based off the Dexter thread.

Richard J. 11-12-2011 11:18 AM

I think they should bring back Merle as a zombie, and that Daryl should be the one that finds him.

aturnis 11-12-2011 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 8101427)
Other than the fact he interacted with all the main charactars you'd be right ROFL He's real dude. I think it was a joke based off the Dexter thread.

He's saying that they aren't sure if Merle reallyakes an appearance, or if Daryl is just imagining him. Not that he been a figment pf Daryl's imagination the whole time.

Pasta Little Brioni 11-12-2011 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 8101488)
He's saying that they aren't sure if Merle reallyakes an appearance, or if Daryl is just imagining him. Not that he been a figment pf Daryl's imagination the whole time.

Makes sense, but it would still be super lame if that was the case.

CHENZ A! 11-13-2011 03:54 PM

I was happy for the Chinese kid to get some booty.

Bowser 11-13-2011 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by CHENZ A! (Post 8106950)
I was happy for the Chinese kid to get some booty.

Top shelf booty, at that.

Munson 11-13-2011 08:58 PM

Good episode tonight. Nice little twist at the end.

Deberg_1990 11-13-2011 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Munson (Post 8108483)
Good episode tonight. Nice little twist at the end.

Good episode.

Spoiler!

Sure-Oz 11-13-2011 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 8108698)
Good episode.

Spoiler!

Kinda saw that coming...i wonder what happend to some of the characters from the last season. Esp the man and his son

Caseyguyrr 11-14-2011 01:43 AM

those damn cliffhangers... amc you are clever

MoreLemonPledge 11-14-2011 01:51 AM

Again, the end of the episode was kind of obvious. Hopefully it sets up something good, because the past few episodes have been shitty.

Spoiler!

Caseyguyrr 11-14-2011 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge (Post 8109401)
Again, the end of the episode was kind of obvious. Hopefully it sets up something good, because the past few episodes have been shitty.

Spoiler!

theyve beaten that dead horse too ****ing long, 4 episodes now of looking for that dumbass little girl???? if im not mistaken, this season is tooooooooo slow,

o and that blonde dumbass chick who shot darryl? demote her to sex slave

Aries Walker 11-14-2011 03:13 AM

Definitely take away her gun.

Anyone notice that Darryl got a bloody ear in the mouth at one point? Hmmm.

Caseyguyrr 11-14-2011 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Aries Walker (Post 8109435)
Definitely take away her gun.

Anyone notice that Darryl got a bloody ear in the mouth at one point? Hmmm.

why is that dumb ho so dead-set on having a ****ing gun in her hand all the time, shit gets annoying

NewChief 11-14-2011 06:02 AM

Spot on once again.
http://www.salon.com/2011/11/14/dead_from_the_neck_up/

Dead from the neck up
"The Walking Dead" has craft and atmosphere; if only the characters weren't so insufferably earnest and dense
By Matt Zoller Seitz

Spoiler!

KC_Connection 11-14-2011 06:08 AM

The scenes between Merle and Darryl were good, even if he was imaginary. All the more reason to bring him back as soon as possible.

blaise 11-14-2011 06:16 AM

I agree with a lot of that from Salon. The example I would have used if I were them was the discussion between Shane and Rick about Sophia. It started off interesting when they were talking about girlfriends, and then Rick asks Shane's opinion, Shane gives it. But then we get this drawn out scene where Rick is predictably indignant. The emotions of each character could have been shown in just a few lines and some facial expression.

We've been watching, we know the characters. We don't need drawn out character development that we already know. Show Rick ask, show Shane answer, use two or three lines and move on to another scene. We got it, we're not dumb.
They try to get drama and conflict from these scenes about philosophical differences, and it doesn't work. It's more like time filler.

NewChief 11-14-2011 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by blaise (Post 8109451)
I agree with a lot of that from Salon. The example I would have used if I were them was the discussion between Shane and Rick about Sophia. It started off interesting when they were talking about girlfriends, and then Rick asks Shane's opinion, Shane gives it. But then we get this drawn out scene where Rick is predictably indignant. The emotions of each character could have been shown in just a few lines and some facial expression.

We've been watching, we know the characters. We don't need drawn out character development that we already know. Show Rick ask, show Shane answer, use two or three lines and move on to another scene. We got it, we're not dumb.
They try to get drama and conflict from these scenes about philosophical differences, and it doesn't work. It's more like time filler.

The worst part is that they don't have bad actors. I think this cast could pull off the understated moments and minimalist dialog. The one that rang truest to me was that each episode has about 10 minutes of "meat" with the rest being filler. Whether it's a result of budget, Darabont getting canned, or just poor writing talent, I'm not sure. It's a shame, though, because the show could be excellent if it finds its stride.

Deberg_1990 11-14-2011 07:38 AM

I like the smaller character scenes like the funny one with Glen and Dale in the trailer more than the ones with Rick and Shane, which did seem pretty drawn out and pointless.

Also, who was the young kid that walked up to the truck in the beginning? Herschels son? There was no introduction...nothing? I feel like theres a cut scene laying around somewhere?? There was also an young girl we have never seen before introduced as well. Odd.

siberian khatru 11-14-2011 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 8109505)
Also, who was the young kid that walked up to the truck in the beginning? Herschels son? There was no introduction...nothing? I feel like theres a cut scene laying around somewhere?? There was also an young girl we have never seen before introduced as well. Odd.

Ha, I had the same reaction. I turned to my son and said, "Who the hell is THAT guy?"

Maybe they should do it like pop-up video: "For an identity of this character, watch the webisodes at AMCtv.com!"

blaise 11-14-2011 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 8109505)
I like the smaller character scenes like the funny one with Glen and Dale in the trailer more than the ones with Rick and Shane, which did seem pretty drawn out and pointless.

Also, who was the young kid that walked up to the truck in the beginning? Herschels son? There was no introduction...nothing? I feel like theres a cut scene laying around somewhere?? There was also an young girl we have never seen before introduced as well. Odd.

Later Herschel said he looked after the kid but he wasn't his relation. It was clunky the way they introduced them.

Chiefnj2 11-14-2011 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 8109505)
I like the smaller character scenes like the funny one with Glen and Dale in the trailer more than the ones with Rick and Shane, which did seem pretty drawn out and pointless.

Also, who was the young kid that walked up to the truck in the beginning? Herschels son? There was no introduction...nothing? I feel like theres a cut scene laying around somewhere?? There was also an young girl we have never seen before introduced as well. Odd.

I thought that when Rick first showed up to the house carrying his son, that kid and some others came out of the farmhouse and they all stood on the porch.

It seems as if some scenes showing/introducing everyone were left out.

seaofred 11-14-2011 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by cabletech94 (Post 8100257)
i actually had this thought myself. but, i don't think it will happen. great idea. i'll give you casino cash if you end up being right (but only because i didn't post it)!


Do I get some Casino cash? :evil:

NJChiefsFan 11-14-2011 04:11 PM

The issue I have with the drawn out scenes is that we know whats coming at the end of it. There is no interest in the back and forth because they are saying things we have heard before.

Even the endings have turned out that way. You didn't need to be a detective to see the pregnancy and barn result coming. I still really like the show, but they do need to fix the back and forth between Shane and Rick. I personally am not a fan of the guy that plays Rick. He does a spasm every time he wants to say a line with anger or passion.

There needs to be some depth to the characters. To me Dale has some as well as Darryl. You look at the ultimate character development show like Lost. When characters spoke you knew what they were about but the end of the dialogue was still in doubt and kept you interested in what was going to be said.

I do like the the mini flashbacks. I am not looking for them to do it like Lost, but a little back story could help them. Atleast its a filler that gives some pay-off to the viewer.

blaise 11-14-2011 04:24 PM

They have shown people smash zombie faces better this year than last. They smash some zombie skull sometimes.

Sure-Oz 11-14-2011 06:31 PM

The last 2 episodes have been better but definetly lacking alot of 'meat' so far...needs to do better, alot better.

aturnis 11-14-2011 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Caseyguyrr (Post 8109438)
why is that dumb ho so dead-set on having a ****ing gun in her hand all the time, shit gets annoying

She's decided she will not become a victim. Hence the reason she tried to stay at the CDC and die. Since Dale "took" that from her, she will defend herself to the death.


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