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Buehler445 08-10-2018 09:58 PM

Carbohydrates and inflammation
 
Iíve heard a couple different places now that eliminating carbohydrates from your diet can help eliminate inflammation.

As Lewdog (very douchtacullarly) pointed out, I have arthritis. Iím wondering if eliminating carbohydrates will eliminate some inflammation. Anymore I have no idea what the **** is based in science and what is hippie bullshit. This kind of sounds like the latter, at least in my head.

Itís not something Iím super excited about, but would be willing to consider if there is a science-based good probability of materially affecting the inflammation.

saphojunkie 08-10-2018 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 13670072)
Iíve heard a couple different places now that eliminating carbohydrates from your diet can help eliminate inflammation.

As Lewdog (very douchtacullarly) pointed out, I have arthritis. Iím wondering if eliminating carbohydrates will eliminate some inflammation. Anymore I have no idea what the **** is based in science and what is hippie bullshit. This kind of sounds like the latter, at least in my head.

Itís not something Iím super excited about, but would be willing to consider if there is a science-based good probability of materially affecting the inflammation.

I know a lot of hard core MMA fighters who are very not hippie dudes who will advise you of a lot of ďhippie bullshitĒ diet stuff, including veganism.

Iím not vegan, but they tell me all the time to do it.

CBD or CBG is also excellent for arthritic inflammation.

Fish 08-10-2018 10:35 PM

From what I've read, it's not as simple as just cutting carbs and reducing inflammation. It depends on many factors. The source of the carbs. Are they highly processed carbs or whole grain carbs? What your lifestyle is like. If you're not active and get little exercise, then cutting carbs can be very beneficial. If you're active, then cutting carbs could cause some negative things to happen. Inflammation could also just be the result of your work and diet may not ever be able to overcome that. It's complicated.

Here's a decent page with lots info on the subject, with lots of reference links if you're curious about the actual scientific studies:

https://www.precisionnutrition.com/low-carb-diets

Hog's Gone Fishin 08-10-2018 11:02 PM

The human body has absolutely no need for any carbohydrates. They don't supply any trace minerals ,vitamins or protein.

Get on a Ketogenic diet which is very satisfying ,(your hunger cravings absolutely go away) and then go to intermittent fasting. Inflammation will virtually disappear. I've gone to one meal a day. Yesterday I skipped the one meal which gave me a 48 hour fast.

After the doctor damn near gave me brain damage with a medication switch i made up my mind I'm done with any medication I'm taking just because I'm a little overweight causing high blood pressure.

bricks 08-10-2018 11:05 PM

I wouldn’t eliminate carbohydrates from my diet. I don’t think thats a smart thing to do to the human body.

I say go old school and simple. Inflammation? No prob, just use ice.

HemiEd 08-10-2018 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 13670103)
From what I've read, it's not as simple as just cutting carbs and reducing inflammation. It depends on many factors. The source of the carbs. Are they highly processed carbs or whole grain carbs? What your lifestyle is like. If you're not active and get little exercise, then cutting carbs can be very beneficial. If you're active, then cutting carbs could cause some negative things to happen. Inflammation could also just be the result of your work and diet may not ever be able to overcome that. It's complicated.

Here's a decent page with lots info on the subject, with lots of reference links if you're curious about the actual scientific studies:

https://www.precisionnutrition.com/low-carb-diets

Very good post Fish and I think the article is spot on. I think it is easier now to make a switch to whole grains as the selection is good for the most part.

I might also add that I have found beer to be the cause of inflammation in my joints, or at the very least it aggravates the heck out of them. It sucks, but it is a choice not easy to make because I love beer.

bricks 08-10-2018 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 13670136)
The human body has absolutely no need for any carbohydrates.They don't supply any trace minerals ,vitamins or protein.

Get on a Ketogenic diet which is very satisfying ,(your hunger cravings absolutely go away) and then go to intermittent fasting. Inflammation will virtually disappear. I've gone to one meal a day. Yesterday I skipped the one meal which gave me a 48 hour fast.

After the doctor damn near gave me brain damage with a medication switch i made up my mind I'm done with any medication I'm taking just because I'm a little overweight causing high blood pressure.

I don’t agree with the first statement in your paragraph.

Its nonsense imo. Our RBCS are 100% glucose dependent for energy but yet you’re saying the body doesnt need any carbs?

Hog's Gone Fishin 08-10-2018 11:23 PM

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Hog's Gone Fishin 08-10-2018 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bricks (Post 13670147)
I don’t agree with the first statement in your paragraph.

Its nonsense imo. Our RBCS are 100% glucose dependent for energy but yet you’re saying the body doesnt need any carbs?

You need to do more research. Carbs are not necessary except for what you get in veggies. In fact to most people they're the sole cause of obesity.

Fish 08-10-2018 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 13670136)
The human body has absolutely no need for any carbohydrates. They don't supply any trace minerals ,vitamins or protein.

Get on a Ketogenic diet which is very satisfying ,(your hunger cravings absolutely go away) and then go to intermittent fasting. Inflammation will virtually disappear. I've gone to one meal a day. Yesterday I skipped the one meal which gave me a 48 hour fast.

After the doctor damn near gave me brain damage with a medication switch i made up my mind I'm done with any medication I'm taking just because I'm a little overweight causing high blood pressure.

That's dangerously false.

Keto diets are dumb and unsustainable.

Hog's Gone Fishin 08-10-2018 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 13670161)
That's dangerously false.

Keto diets are dumb and unsustainable.

Dr Berg disagrees

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Danguardace 08-10-2018 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 13670161)
That's dangerously false.

Keto diets are dumb and unsustainable.

Always makes laugh how people are so protective of their carbs.

We've been told to eliminate fats for the last 40+ years and instead eat more breads, pasta and rice (just look at the food pyramid)... look how that has worked out.

For the OP I can only give you my experience I have done a low carb eating plan for the last 18 weeks combined with intermittent fasting, and it has helped me lose a lot of weight and I no longer suffer from bloating.

My only carbs are from vegetables and nuts so it is not about eliminating carbs its about cutting out or down the beige (Bread)and white (sugar) carbs. I disagree that carbs are not essential because to me fibre important for gut health so green carbs are important to me any.

I eat strategic carb days every 2 weeks and have cheats meals like anyone else.

Hog's Gone Fishin 08-10-2018 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Danguardace (Post 13670182)
Always makes laugh how people are so protective of their carbs.

We've been told to eliminate fats for the last 40+ years and instead eat more breads, pasta and rice (just look at the food pyramid)... look how that has worked out.

For the OP I can only give you my experience I have done a low carb eating plan for the last 18 weeks combined with intermittent fasting, and it has helped me lose a lot of weight and I no longer suffer from bloating.

My only carbs are from vegetables and nuts so it is not about eliminating carbs its about cutting out or down the beige (Bread)and white (sugar) carbs. I disagree that carbs are not essential because to me fibre important for gut health so green carbs are important to me any.

I eat strategic carb days every 2 weeks and have cheats meals like anyone else.

Spot on. Yeah I should not have stated it as I did. On my diet I eat a big salad as part of my meal which of course contains some carbs BUT the carbs themselves are not essential. Just the nutrients you get with the veggies.

Fish 08-10-2018 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 13670176)
Dr Berg disagrees

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"Dr." Berg is a ****ing quack. Very well known for his pseudoscience bullshit.

He's not even an actual doctor. He's just a chiropractor. He's not legally allowed to even put a "Dr." in front of his name. He's been reprimanded and fined for his bullshit claims. Don't trust individuals spouting stuff that's completely contradictory to known science. Trust the overall body of knowledge. Which says that keto is shit. It absolutely has the potential to provide weight loss, but it's biologically dangerous and unsustainable for most people.

Fish 08-10-2018 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Danguardace (Post 13670182)
Always makes laugh how people are so protective of their carbs.

We've been told to eliminate fats for the last 40+ years and instead eat more breads, pasta and rice (just look at the food pyramid)... look how that has worked out.

For the OP I can only give you my experience I have done a low carb eating plan for the last 18 weeks combined with intermittent fasting, and it has helped me lose a lot of weight and I no longer suffer from bloating.

My only carbs are from vegetables and nuts so it is not about eliminating carbs its about cutting out or down the beige (Bread)and white (sugar) carbs. I disagree that carbs are not essential because to me fibre important for gut health so green carbs are important to me any.

I eat strategic carb days every 2 weeks and have cheats meals like anyone else.

Sure. Again, for overweight people with little to no exercise, cutting carbs can absolutely be beneficial. But for most, drastically cutting carbs can have very different consequences regarding hormone balance, metabolism, etc. It also depends a lot on the type of carbs.

What works for you isn't necessary what works for most.


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