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WoodDraw 03-29-2011 01:24 PM

Does Apple allow the Amazon MP3 app now? I don't think Apple allows any apps that replicate "native functionality".

Skyy God 03-29-2011 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by WoodDraw (Post 7524875)
Does Apple allow the Amazon MP3 app now? I don't think Apple allows any apps that replicate "native functionality".

Doubtful.

Bewbies 03-29-2011 03:54 PM

Since I've commented in here a bit I'll share this...

I was told we were getting iPhone's last week at work, turns out we got HTC Inspire 4G's (cause ATT gave them to us for free) instead. I freaking love it, and while I don't think it's as good as an iPhone, if I were buying with my own money I'd buy the HTC.

That doesn't change my mind on iPad's though, I'm still buying one of those...but color me intrigued about rooting a Nook Color. :)

AustinChief 03-29-2011 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 7490084)
I am not saying Apple is going anywhere.. I am just saying their market share is... They will happily settle into a 15-20% role just like they have with Macs. It's the same business model, it stands to reason the results will be the same.

Looks like IDC has predicted the iPhone will settle into that 15% share I predicted... there is NO reason to believe that the iPad won't follow suit.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-20048236-17.html

The following graph is for smartphones only...
http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2011/03/29/idc.JPG

Yes there is a difference between phones and tablets... but if your replace the term "carriers" with "manufacturers"... the same market forces should cause the same results.

Fish 03-29-2011 04:28 PM

I recommend Jenga HD for iPad. Sounds like a silly concept on a tablet, but it's actually lots of fun. They did a really good job with it.

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/jenga...393106605?mt=8

<iframe title="YouTube video player" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/9ljGItPBIPA" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="390" width="640"></iframe>

AustinChief 03-29-2011 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 7525298)
I recommend Jenga HD for iPad. Sounds like a silly concept on a tablet, but it's actually lots of fun. They did a really good job with it.

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/jenga...393106605?mt=8

that does look fun!

The_Doctor10 03-29-2011 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 7525281)
Looks like IDC has predicted the iPhone will settle into that 15% share I predicted... there is NO reason to believe that the iPad won't follow suit.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-20048236-17.html

The following graph is for smartphones only...
http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2011/03/29/idc.JPG

Yes there is a difference between phones and tablets... but if your replace the term "carriers" with "manufacturers"... the same market forces should cause the same results.

The iPhone is one device. Everyone else has dozens of devices. If there's another individual device that outsells the iPhone, I'd love to see it.

DaFace 03-29-2011 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Unleash_the_Phury (Post 7525390)
The iPhone is one device. Everyone else has dozens of devices. If there's another individual device that outsells the iPhone, I'd love to see it.

What an odd statement. It's the exact mirror image of "The Macintosh is one device. Everyone else (IBM clones) has dozens of devices. If there's another individual device that outsells the Mac, I'd love to see it."

WoodDraw 03-29-2011 05:43 PM

I'd assume the Galaxy S has smoked the iPhone on sales, but I don't care enough to google it.

AustinChief 03-29-2011 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Unleash_the_Phury (Post 7525390)
The iPhone is one device. Everyone else has dozens of devices. If there's another individual device that outsells the iPhone, I'd love to see it.

I don't think you are getting the point here... you have some pretty serious Apple fanboi tunnel-vision going on.

The point is... a bunch of you said the iPhone will always dominate the market ... etc etc and a bunch of us predicted it would follow the path that MACs did and end up at 15%... well, we were right. Now the exact same thing is going to happen with iPads.

The only market that Apple will hold a share higher than 20% in is the MP3 player market.. a market that is quickly going away entirely.

In Apple's defense, they are perfectly happy to sit at 15% and make scads of money.

DaFace 03-29-2011 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 7525281)
Looks like IDC has predicted the iPhone will settle into that 15% share I predicted... there is NO reason to believe that the iPad won't follow suit.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-20048236-17.html

The following graph is for smartphones only...
http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2011/03/29/idc.JPG

Yes there is a difference between phones and tablets... but if your replace the term "carriers" with "manufacturers"... the same market forces should cause the same results.

On a side note, the predicted jump in Windows Mobile phones is striking. I wouldn't have thought that the Nokia partnership would have made THAT big of a difference, but I guess we'll see.

BigMeatballDave 03-29-2011 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 7525507)
On a side note, the predicted jump in Windows Mobile phones is striking. I wouldn't have thought that the Nokia partnership would have made THAT big of a difference, but I guess we'll see.

I had Windows phone before I bought my Droid. Biggest POS I've ever owned.

It does appear that they have vastly improved.

AustinChief 03-29-2011 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 7525507)
On a side note, the predicted jump in Windows Mobile phones is striking. I wouldn't have thought that the Nokia partnership would have made THAT big of a difference, but I guess we'll see.

They basically are counting on all the Symbian users to go with Windows because of it... I wouldn't be too surprised. Nokia has a huge market in Europe.

Fish 03-29-2011 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 7525428)
I don't think you are getting the point here... you have some pretty serious Apple fanboi tunnel-vision going on.

The point is... a bunch of you said the iPhone will always dominate the market ... etc etc and a bunch of us predicted it would follow the path that MACs did and end up at 15%... well, we were right. Now the exact same thing is going to happen with iPads.

The only market that Apple will hold a share higher than 20% in is the MP3 player market.. a market that is quickly going away entirely.

In Apple's defense, they are perfectly happy to sit at 15% and make scads of money.

I agree with you on the smartphone aspect here, and I've not argued such about phones. But I still disagree with the tablet market. If Apple ever drops below 50% in the tablet market in the next few years, I'll be very surprised. Despite tablet app or specification differences, Apple's rep and marketing is too strong to slip to a bunch of Android devices for quite some time.

Regarding the smartphone development, I did find this site, which I thought laid out smartphone development pretty well. It does indeed support your claims for the smartphone market, and predicts that Android market will have more apps than App Store market by mid-2012.

https://www.mylookout.com/appgenome/

But as it stands, I don't find the tablet market directly comparable to the smartphone market. Not yet at least. In a few years, maybe.... But as of a month ago, Android market only had 16 available apps specifically designed for Honeycomb tablets, which weren't a blown-up version of a smartphone app. EDIT: Looks like it's went up a few:

https://market.android.com/details?i...start=0&num=24



Fish 03-29-2011 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 7525507)
On a side note, the predicted jump in Windows Mobile phones is striking. I wouldn't have thought that the Nokia partnership would have made THAT big of a difference, but I guess we'll see.

I agree. I have no idea how they're projecting such a surge in the Windows corner. I haven't seen that kind of difference at all from my experience with Windows7 phones.


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