1) Thank you for creating the 2013 thread, Duncan.

2) Is ChiefsandO'sFan banned from trolling this thread?

Alright damnit...after a couple of days, I'm calm about the trade and ready to go.

I'm excited we'll actually be fielding a major league caliber rotation.

I'm all in and can't frickin wait for the season.

Interesting.

If not he should be. Dude is annoying as ****

Wasn't close to the same argument. Back then, he didn't argue that Kila was the best young hitter in the minors. He effectively argued that a team as flawed as the Royals at the time should give him a shot.

exactly. We were running Ross Gload out ther every day, with Kila tearing up the minors. That's why he wanted Kila to get a shot. He didn't compare him to great ML players, or what a star Kila could be. He said he was a cheap minor league option that was producing, would cost the fraction of what Gload was costing, and at WORST would put up similar production... at best would have multiplied it.

Guess what? In 2010 Kila got 180 at bats and stunk it up.. he still outproduced with those limited AB's what Gload was doing with nearly 400 AB's.

In 2009, they brought in an expensive Mike Jacobs to give us less production than what it would have cost to have Kila do that.

That's BAD GM'ing.

Sorry if repost. Moore gets pantys in wad and wreaking of Pioli here.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/hotstove12/st...tampa-bay-rays

Kansas City Royals general manager Dayton Moore is going for it, and he's not happy that he's taking heat for his approach.


Moore acquired former All-Star James Shields and fellow right-hander Wade Davis from Tampa Bay in a six-player deal Sunday that sent top prospects Wil Myers and Jake Odorizzi, along with two other minor leaguers, to the Rays.


There is no question the Royals improved their pitching staff, but they paid a premium for a marginal upgrade, Keith Law writes. Blog


Multiple media outlets have blasted the move, saying the Royals gave up too much. ESPN.com's Keith Law wrote that "the deal reeks of a GM feeling pressure to improve short-term performance to keep his job, which is a terrible situation for any executive both personally and for the way it can inhibit his ability to make rational decisions."



"To me, that's insulting," Moore told USA Today Sports on Monday. "That's very insulting. Very, very insulting. I don't get too bent up about criticism, and I want to take the high road here, but that's insulting my integrity."


The Royals haven't made the playoffs since 1985, even though the AL Central has looked very winnable over the years. The Royals -- 23rd in ERA last season -- dealt for arms from the Rays, the team with baseball's best ERA.


Still, many believe Myers -- who batted .314 with 37 home runs and 109 RBIs in 134 games at Northwest Arkansas and Triple-A Omaha -- was too big a piece to surrender. Law wrote: "This looks very much like the deal that, barring something completely unexpected, will be the move that brings Dayton Moore's tenure in Kansas City, one marked by massive improvement in the team's farm system, to an end."


Moore, who has been the Royals' GM since 2006, said he's not making moves to keep his job.


"If something happened, I couldn't get another job in baseball? Is that what people think?'' he said, according to USA Today Sports.


The Royals were 72-90 last season and haven't had a winning season since 2003, but Moore is banking on a revamped veteran rotation to turn things around. In addition to their trade with the Rays, the Royals acquired 29-year-old right-hander Ervin Santana from the Los Angeles Angels and signed free-agent right-hander Jeremy Guthrie, 33, to a three-year contract.



"When you can acquire a pitcher like James Shields and Wade Davis, we have to do it, because that's what we've committed to our team -- we've committed to our organization," Moore said after the trade. "It's important that we start winning games

Another tid-bit from that story:

Thank you Mr. Idaho.
Always optimistic in December.
My worries: I think Santana is injured. Just a gut feeling.
3 months of Guthrie leaves me unconvinced. I want to be wrong.
I am 48 years old, and I still have dirt from the home plate area from Game 7 when I lept onto the turf at Royals Stadium from atop the visitors dugout. I was a naive 20 year old, thinking the Royals would continue to be contenders. I want this to work out. 27 jaded seasons tells me otherwise.

Is Myers going to be an opening day starting for Rays?

They'll keep him in the minors for a month to save on service time and then bring him up in May.

I don't think he intentionally means to be that way. He just has absolutely zero self-awareness.

I don't really have a problem with him getting pissed, I was extremely surprised that Law would do that.

Its one thing for random message board fans like us to wildly speculate, but for a guy working at ESPN to accuse a GM of doing something that is not in the team's best interest just to save his job, is a very serious accusation. You kinda need proof for that, it would be like a local reporter, with no evidence at all, writing that maybe the mayor and the local police chief are both on the take.

That's what they are paid to do. It was my first thought on the trade as well so it's not exactly far fetched. I thought the line about him being able to get another job in baseball was pretty stupid though. I would hope he actually valued not having to up root his family and head to another city for a likely demotion.

That article is an excellent example of why Keith Law will have a really hard time working in baseball again.

I like his takes most of the time... but he occasionally goes off the deep end with arrogance/insults.