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MikeMaslowski 10-09-2009 01:56 PM

Vicodin, Does it work for you?
 
I've had chronic back pain for quite some time now. The docs finally decided to go a bit harder on the drugs so I can sleep at night. They gave me a crapload of Vicodin and I was like, "Holy shit, I'm gonna get effed up and feel no pain!" Unfortunately this is the third night in a row I've taken it and I don't really feel a difference. I'm pretty dissapointed after listening to all those Eminem songs talking about it;) I'm gonna drink a beer to see if that helps.

Has anyone else had no effects from taking Vicodin? What could be the reason I'm not?

Thanks,

Have another beer on me!

JOhn 10-09-2009 01:59 PM

I prefer Oxycotin or Ms, of course that's why I don't take it anymore...I Like it to much.

Seriously some people have a very high tolerance for some type of meds. Vicodin (Hydrocodone) never worked for me, so they always used Percocet(Oxycodon) instead, at least tell I built to much of a tolerance.

just a word of warning, all that shit can be addictive as hell, and I'm speaking from experience.:doh!:

L.A. Chieffan 10-09-2009 02:01 PM

chop it, snort it and then chug about a half a bottle of stoli while sitting in the hot tub. thats how i do it

KCUnited 10-09-2009 02:02 PM

I prefer Percocet. Right mix of feel good to side effect ratio for me.

ChiefsCountry 10-09-2009 02:03 PM

I loved it when I was on it in high school when I hurt my shoulders.

MikeMaslowski 10-09-2009 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 6155804)
chop it, snort it and then chug about a half a bottle of stoli while sitting in the hot tub. thats how i do it

Tell me this six years ago and I'd have been all over it.

CoMoChief 10-09-2009 02:04 PM

**** yeah I love that shit!!! Got some at home actually.

Buck 10-09-2009 02:09 PM

If Vicodin doesnt work for you then you must be really ****ed up.

MikeMaslowski 10-09-2009 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuckinKaeding (Post 6155822)
If Vicodin doesnt work for you then you must be really ****ed up.

I've taken 2, and feel nothing. I'm thinking about taking another one and cracking a beer. Think I should?

Mr. Flopnuts 10-09-2009 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeMaslowski (Post 6155831)
I've taken 2, and feel nothing. I'm thinking about taking another one and cracking a beer. Think I should?

5mg I'll take up to 4. 7.5 mg I'll take 3.

sedated 10-09-2009 02:25 PM

I got that after a car accident a few years ago. It helped the pain, but I didn’t get a buzz until I took 4 or so, but then after a few days of taking that dose I stopped getting a buzz. I didn’t think it was anything special.

phisherman 10-09-2009 02:33 PM

love them.

take two and a few drinks. no more pain.

BigMeatballDave 10-09-2009 02:42 PM

I haven't taken it in yrs but I seem to recall it was like a case of beer in a pill...

Reaper16 10-09-2009 02:43 PM

Vicoden is some dangerous shit. I could get hooked on them shits. Taking three in the morning and sinking slowly into the couch as it talks to you is awesome.

BigMeatballDave 10-09-2009 02:45 PM

Brett Favre likes them...

MikeMaslowski 10-09-2009 02:46 PM

Well, I'm three deep and about 3/4 way through a Heineken. I feel kind of a cloud over my head. But not like a weed cloud, more like an early coke cloud without the throat drainage.

wildcat09 10-09-2009 02:46 PM

I have had a lot of experience with pain meds because of sports injuries. Percocet always worked pretty awesome. I just got my wisdom teeth out last week and they gave me vicodin and they have worked just as well. One time I got 750 mg for a broken leg......vedddy nice (in a Borat voice)

Fish 10-09-2009 02:57 PM

Makes me puke pretty quickly. I can't keep them down long enough for it to do any good. Pain pills and I don't dance very well together. Morphine sends me to Wonderland. I've done some crazy out-of-my-mind shit every time I've had to take morphine. Nurses hated me when I was on morphine. Made me confused and angry.

penguinz 10-09-2009 03:01 PM

Neither vicodin or percocet do much for me. :(

wildcat09 10-09-2009 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 6155988)
Neither vicodin or percocet do much for me. :(

that is a sad, sad thing.......

KCChiefsMan 10-09-2009 03:03 PM

I know a guy who got into a bad car accident a while back, the doc gave him oxycotton and he's still addicted to that. He takes about 25 pills per day and has to see 10 doctors to get them all. That $hit is scary

MikeMaslowski 10-09-2009 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 6155988)
Neither vicodin or percocet do much for me. :(

Percocet makes my nose itch like crazy, I scratch like a crack fiend.

wildcat09 10-09-2009 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 6155973)
Makes me puke pretty quickly. I can't keep them down long enough for it to do any good. Pain pills and I don't dance very well together. Morphine sends me to Wonderland. I've done some crazy out-of-my-mind shit every time I've had to take morphine. Nurses hated me when I was on morphine. Made me confused and angry.


I had morphine once.......at least that is what the nurses said it was......don't remember much.....

wildcat09 10-09-2009 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsMan (Post 6155995)
I know a guy who got into a bad car accident a while back, the doc gave him oxycotton and he's still addicted to that. He takes about 25 pills per day and has to see 10 doctors to get them all. That $hit is scary


I don't have an addictive personality at all but I could get addicted to pain killers pretty easily

beach tribe 10-09-2009 03:06 PM

Good stuff. Be careful. Tolerance builds extremely fast, and takes forever to go away.

MikeMaslowski 10-09-2009 03:07 PM

Oh, and so people don't think I'm a complete druggie, it's 11 p.m. where I am. I'm not standing in formation all drugged up. ;)

DTLB58 10-09-2009 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeMaslowski (Post 6155782)
I've had chronic back pain for quite some time now. The docs finally decided to go a bit harder on the drugs so I can sleep at night. They gave me a crapload of Vicodin and I was like, "Holy shit, I'm gonna get effed up and feel no pain!" Unfortunately this is the third night in a row I've taken it and I don't really feel a difference. I'm pretty dissapointed after listening to all those Eminem songs talking about it;) I'm gonna drink a beer to see if that helps.

Has anyone else had no effects from taking Vicodin? What could be the reason I'm not?

Thanks,

Have another beer on me!

They didn't do anything for my back pain. No pills did.

I had 2 herniated disk at L4 and L5 (well documented on here) and got several Steroid injections for 6 years until they finally did surgery once the injections stopped working.

penguinz 10-09-2009 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wildcat09 (Post 6155993)
that is a sad, sad thing.......

Tell me about it. When my back and knees are flaring up two vicodin or two percocet don't give me anymore relief than 800mg motrin.

penguinz 10-09-2009 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTLB58 (Post 6156010)
They didn't do anything for my back pain. No pills did.

I had 2 herniated disk at L4 and L5 (well documented on here) and got several Steroid injections for 6 years until they finally did surgery once the injections stopped working.

:o I have herniated discs at the same spot. My L5-S1 is also protruding. It is fun when both legs go almost completely numb.

patteeu 10-09-2009 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeMaslowski (Post 6155782)
I've had chronic back pain for quite some time now. The docs finally decided to go a bit harder on the drugs so I can sleep at night. They gave me a crapload of Vicodin and I was like, "Holy shit, I'm gonna get effed up and feel no pain!" Unfortunately this is the third night in a row I've taken it and I don't really feel a difference. I'm pretty dissapointed after listening to all those Eminem songs talking about it;) I'm gonna drink a beer to see if that helps.

Has anyone else had no effects from taking Vicodin? What could be the reason I'm not?

Thanks,

Have another beer on me!

It's worked well for me in the past except for a time when I had some nerve damage where a rib had been cracked. Maybe it doesn't work as well for nerve damage type pain as it does for something like ripped flesh. :shrug:

rtmike 10-09-2009 03:13 PM

I don't mess with the Vikes. I pop 6-8 oxy's a day for my back. Dr. says the pain is prolly from the bird cage they used to put my spine back together.

I go in for an injection in a couple weeks, usually helps for a while.

MikeMaslowski 10-09-2009 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTLB58 (Post 6156010)
They didn't do anything for my back pain. No pills did.

I had 2 herniated disk at L4 and L5 (well documented on here) and got several Steroid injections for 6 years until they finally did surgery once the injections stopped working.

Yeah, I don't know what these Army Docs are doing. They say that my spine is twisted (not curved like in normal scoliosis) and it cause my left side of my back muscles to constantly spasm. They say that there is nothing that they can do to fix it, so I'm stuck on Flexeril and now Vicodin. I'm a 25 year old guy who jumps out of airplanes and needs to live at least another 50 years... am I gonna be stuck on drugs the entire time?? That's what I'm most worried about.

patteeu 10-09-2009 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sedated (Post 6155861)
I got that after a car accident a few years ago. It helped the pain, but I didn’t get a buzz until I took 4 or so, but then after a few days of taking that dose I stopped getting a buzz. I didn’t think it was anything special.

I don't think you're as likely to get a buzz when you're actually taking it to relieve pain.

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-09-2009 03:16 PM

Just get some good skag from your local Mexicans; that'll fix it.

seclark 10-09-2009 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 6155973)
Makes me puke pretty quickly. I can't keep them down long enough for it to do any good. Pain pills and I don't dance very well together. Morphine sends me to Wonderland. I've done some crazy out-of-my-mind shit every time I've had to take morphine. Nurses hated me when I was on morphine. Made me confused and angry.

i was on morphine for 4 weeks in the hospital several years back. one of those deals where you can push the button and it gives you a dose. only thing was, it would only give me a dose every 15 minutes.

push button
scratch head
scratch legs
scratch balls
push button again

constantly sweated like a whore in church.
sec

Iowanian 10-09-2009 03:35 PM

I can't take any of that stuff. Anything stronger than Tylenol 3 hurts my guts more than it's worth.

It's Tylenol and a stick to chew on for me.

I've probably got 2-3 bottles of that type of stuff with 1 missing I need to get rid of before some kid or druggie finds.


Morphine drip gave me terrible hallucinations and horrible dreams. hated it.

Demonpenz 10-09-2009 04:18 PM

we used to snort it and do a shot of crown. and play that blues song

I'm I man...way past 21...then I would have to my sisters house to see if my brother was stirring the sauce

Priest31kc 10-09-2009 04:36 PM

Vicodin does nothing for me either. Took 3 one night, 2 5MG, 1 7.5 MG, and felt nothing really.

tonyetony 10-09-2009 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 6156026)
I don't think you're as likely to get a buzz when you're actually taking it to relieve pain.

I have noticed that exact phenomenon myself.

rockymtnchief 10-09-2009 04:40 PM

Had my ribs put thru my lung and liver. Vicodin didn't help the pain one bit. I had to tough it out.

patteeu 10-09-2009 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockymtnchief (Post 6156244)
Had my ribs put thru my lung and liver. Vicodin didn't help the pain one bit. I had to tough it out.

Show off. :p

4th and Long 10-09-2009 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buzz (Post 6155816)

ROFL

Pants 10-09-2009 05:07 PM

The danger of taking too much Vicodin is that it has a shitload of acetaminophen (Tylenol) in it and if you take more than 4000mg of Tylenol a day for for too long, your liver will go to shit and I mean SHIT. FDA is about to change a lot of laws regarding combination meds (with Tylenol) due to massive amounts of liver failures. Percocet is the same except it has Oxycodone in it instead of Hydrocodone and that's pretty much like heroin. Take enough Oxycodone (chronic pain, years worth), there's no getting off that shit, the doctors will be increasing the doses until you're wearing patches (Fentanyl), sucking lollipops and popping pills 24/7 just to sustain the opiate addiction... the good thing is that opiate tolerance pretty much has no ceiling, the bad thing is that it gets really really expensive.

It's really scary.

Fish 10-09-2009 05:12 PM

Mmmmmmmm... Opiates.........

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ETNc90p_gd...er+drool+2.gif

Reaper16 10-09-2009 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buzz (Post 6155816)

http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos..._3596081_n.jpg

MikeMaslowski 10-09-2009 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metrolike (Post 6156300)
The danger of taking too much Vicodin is that it has a shitload of acetaminophen (Tylenol) in it and if you take more than 4000mg of Tylenol a day for for too long, your liver will go to shit and I mean SHIT. FDA is about to change a lot of laws regarding combination meds (with Tylenol) due to massive amounts of liver failures. Percocet is the same except it has Oxycodone in it instead of Hydrocodone and that's pretty much like heroin. Take enough Oxycodone (chronic pain, years worth), there's no getting off that shit, the doctors will be increasing the doses until you're wearing patches (Fentanyl), sucking lollipops and popping pills 24/7 just to sustain the opiate addiction... the good thing is that opiate tolerance pretty much has no ceiling, the bad thing is that it gets really really expensive.

It's really scary.

Wow, that shit was intense. Thanks. I think I might try to pay an Italian Chiropractor....

tmax63 10-09-2009 05:50 PM

You sound like a Pharmacist Metro. I'm a lowly tech and couldn't of said it any better.

listopencil 10-09-2009 05:55 PM

I was prescribed Vicodin a while back, did nothing for me by itself. It worked well when I mixed it with ibuprofen and beer though.

rockymtnchief 10-09-2009 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 6156252)
Show off. :p

I should've worded it different. I was in tears for two months.

booger 10-09-2009 06:32 PM

had reconstructive ankle/foot surg and had Percocet for that. Didn't do much as i had a staff infection with high fever after that. I needed to take more than i did each day but my Surgon acted like he would prefer not to refill the original dose. So i tryed to only take them when it was extreme pain.

Had Codene a few times. One with cough surup for pneumonia. Also combined w/tylenol as a prescipt for 2 disk problems.

Now Vicodin for the back issues. Probably need surgury since i get the pain down both legs at times and sometimes just one leg. I wear a weight lifting belt that has a wide back to it for better support when i am on my feet all day. Otherwise i try to strech out the hamstrings a couple times a day. Releives some of the back pain. Other wise i lay on a flat surface and relax and try chiropractic adjustments of my hips and lower back. Some days it's a bitch to even walk around.

crispystl 10-09-2009 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 6155988)
Neither vicodin or percocet do much for me. :(

You have to mix a little alcohol. One or two beers will do a pretty good job.

bevischief 10-09-2009 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JOhn (Post 6155797)
I prefer Oxycotin or Ms, of course that's why I don't take it anymore...I Like it to much.

Seriously some people have a very high tolerance for some type of meds. Vincodi (Hydrocodone) never worked for me, so they always used Percocet(Oxycodon) instead, at least tell I built to much of a tolerance.

just a word of warning, all that shit can be addictive as hell, and I'm speaking from experience.:doh!:

For my burns for me Vincodin worked better than Percocet difference of night and day....

Steron 10-09-2009 07:20 PM

I always preferred Percs. I took them after my knee surgery and several pilonidal cyst operations. I can easily see how people could get hooked on them.

Fairplay 10-09-2009 07:39 PM

Vicodin will help your pain, but it never really gave me a buzz, unless alcohol is involved.

I take it now and then still but only if i really need them.

NewChief 10-09-2009 07:44 PM

That level of pill doesn't do jack shit to me until I throw a drink or two on top of it. At that point... watch out. Good times. I stay away from them for the most part because of that. I could be a pill head way too easily.

AndChiefs 10-09-2009 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeMaslowski (Post 6156318)
Wow, that shit was intense. Thanks. I think I might try to pay an Italian Chiropractor....

He's not kidding. I have some crazy stories of customers coming in and "needing" their medicine right away. 9.9999/10 times the medicine they needed was percocet/vicodin. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone to be honest.

sedated 10-09-2009 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fairplay (Post 6156665)
Vicodin will help your pain, but it never really gave me a buzz, unless alcohol is involved.

that.

I didn't realize how effective the vicodin was at stopping the pain until I didn't take it when I tried to go back to work. (that shit makes me sleepy as all hell too)

MikeMaslowski 10-09-2009 07:49 PM

Well, it's almost 4 a.m. here. I took three and had a beer. I cannot fugging sleep. But I don't have a high like it's speed. Just feel a bit fidgety. I have class at 9. I don't think I will continue to take this stuff.

4th and Long 10-09-2009 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmax63 (Post 6156394)
You sound like a Pharmacist Metro. I'm a lowly tech and couldn't of said it any better.

Tech or CPhT?

Fairplay 10-09-2009 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeMaslowski (Post 6156691)
Well, it's almost 4 a.m. here. I took three and had a beer. I cannot fugging sleep. But I don't have a high like it's speed. Just feel a bit fidgety. I have class at 9. I don't think I will continue to take this stuff.



Don't do more then that man. Not good for your body.

Have 911 on your speed dial. lol

AndChiefs 10-09-2009 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4th and Long (Post 6156714)
Tech or CPhT?

I'm a CPhT. Don't know about the other guy though.

Red Beans 10-09-2009 08:41 PM

3 or 4 vics spaced out over about 10 beers and you ought to be just right.

4th and Long 10-09-2009 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndChiefs (Post 6156805)
I'm a CPhT. Don't know about the other guy though.

Hospital or retail?

WilliamTheIrish 10-09-2009 09:28 PM

It's like a warm blanket that wraps around you on cool morning.

JohninGpt 10-09-2009 09:32 PM

MikeMaslowski, make sure medical documents the hell out of your back pain, and keep a copy of your medical record for yourself. I'm sure you've heard it before, but it is VERY important later on. The VA is a bitch.

alanm 10-09-2009 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 6155847)
5mg I'll take up to 4. 7.5 mg I'll take 3.

The man with a plan.
Two 7.5 usually makes me feel pretty good. 3 for the 5's. :)

GoHuge 10-09-2009 09:36 PM

Those of you complaining about the itching have a codeine allergy, which is why they started making hydro/oxycodone. Like Tylenol 3's make me scratch my hair like I'm a f**king tweeker. Since my accident I've tried every type of non-narcotic medication for nerve pain, (or after a SCI what they call spinal cord pain) had nerve blocks all up and down my spine, even went the route of spinal electric stim implant, but it didn't help. I've been on up to 4-40mg oxycontin's a day along with (optional) 8-15mg oxycodone's in between. You'll just go around numb all day long. Thing is after a while (couple years) you don't feel f**ked up anymore and don't realize how stupid you look. I had my family tell me there where times I'd just stop talking in mid sentence or take a half hour to take three bites of food, or some other exercise in dumbassery. I know this sounds crazy but I could quit taking them whenever I wanted. Just needed about three days to ween myself off and I was good. Luckily for me I just wasn't addicted to them. I've seen people go to jail, rehab, etc because of drugs (perscription and illegal). I just don't get how a substance can take over your life. I guess just because I don't have that addictive gene I can't relate. I know it's not a matter of will power because when people go into states of withdrawl and get the shakes and shit it's a real thing. Sure it's all a hell of alot of fun, but to throw everything away over the high you get from a substance? Pass. My nerve pain never goes away or gets any better and it sucks, but I would much rather have a sharp mind and just deal with it. That shit ravages your liver and kidneys. It is crazy how fast your body builds up a tolerance to any narcotic, but especially narcotic pain killers. If you have any type of chronic pain you'll have to just keep increasing the dose to get the same effect or deal with it. Those pills will kill your ass. People die all the time from respiratory failure because they'll take them with BP's like Xanax or valium and they just quit breathing in their sleep. Either that or the long term damage to your liver and kidneys. That and they'll slow your bowels down to a crawl. Constipation becomes a way of life. I haven't taken anything in over a year and yeah my pain always sucks, but I'd rather remember what I did today. It's a vicous circle indeed.

And to the question I'm sure I could take 5-750's even today and just have a nice buzz. I use to be able to take 3-40mg oxycontins chew them up and wash it down with a few beers to get the same buzz I got when I started taking 2-5mg oxycodones. Crazy shit man.

sedated 10-09-2009 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoHuge39 (Post 6156923)
People die all the time from respiratory failure because they'll take them with BP's like Xanax or valium and they just quit breathing in their sleep.

why so serious?

let's put a smile on that face.

chiefscraze 10-09-2009 10:04 PM

READ THIS INFO:
 
Pay attention to the earlier post on Vicodin. The 7.5's have 750mg of Acetaminophen. You cannot take more than 1000mg of acetaminophin every 6 hours or your liver will have damage...no kidding. Taking 3 of these means you have taken 2250 mg of it at one time. Anymore than 4 grams in 24 hours and you are asking for serious trouble. It doesn't take much over the 4 grams in 24 hours (4000mg) to damage most peoples livers. Add some alcohol on top of that and it is even worse. I used to sell pain medications and ER doc's will tell you how many patients come into the ER with liver failure because they ingest too many med's that they don't realize have acetaminophen in them at the same time.

AndChiefs 10-09-2009 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4th and Long (Post 6156903)
Hospital or retail?

Retail. Though I went back to school a couple months ago so now nowhere.

googlegoogle 10-10-2009 03:18 AM

I can't believe we still can't make a good pain pill.

Hydrocodone with acetaminophen does nothing for me either. Just makes you feel like your on strong cough medicine. Numb but it's no good.

what about this chart Mike?
http://www.vaughns-1-pagers.com/medi...comparison.htm

patteeu 10-10-2009 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoHuge39 (Post 6156923)
...

I use to be able to take 3-40mg oxycontins chew them up and wash it down with a few beers to get the same buzz I got when I started taking 2-5mg oxycodones. Crazy shit man.

:eek:

Jack 10-10-2009 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeMaslowski (Post 6155782)
I've had chronic back pain for quite some time now. The docs finally decided to go a bit harder on the drugs so I can sleep at night. They gave me a crapload of Vicodin and I was like, "Holy shit, I'm gonna get effed up and feel no pain!" Unfortunately this is the third night in a row I've taken it and I don't really feel a difference. I'm pretty dissapointed after listening to all those Eminem songs talking about it;) I'm gonna drink a beer to see if that helps.

Has anyone else had no effects from taking Vicodin? What could be the reason I'm not?

Thanks,

Have another beer on me!

Same here with me on that stuff. Works for the first couple of tries, then doesn't help much and it really corks me up.

Ask your doc for "Tramadol" It is not a "Class 2" narcotic and works much better for me. I've got some pretty bad arthritis in my feet. Not good for a retired workaholic. "Tram" really helps me make it through the day.

tmax63 10-10-2009 08:00 AM

CPhT. Most of my mentors in the Army was the driving force behind creating CPhT. I was grandfathered in because I had taken the tests before CPhT existed. I've worked as CPhT for 12 yrs in the Army and 12+ years as DOD civilian for the Army.

DeepPurple 10-10-2009 08:39 AM

I sometimes get pain in my lower back and my doctor prescribes Flexeril. I get the generic version for $4 for 30 pills at Walmart. There is no high, but the pain goes away. It also will make you a bit drowsy.

A few years ago I had severe carpal tunnel syndrome in both hands and took oxycodin for a few weeks until I had surgery. I found oxy worked great the first week and then I sort of became immune, it would no longer effect me after that.

Fairplay 10-10-2009 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack (Post 6157231)
Ask your doc for "Tramadol" It is not a "Class 2" narcotic and works much better for me. I've got some pretty bad arthritis in my feet. Not good for a retired workaholic. "Tram" really helps me make it through the day.



My experience with Tramadol is not so good.

It is was hard for me to concentrate and i felt stupid. After 10 pills or so i threw the bottle away.

Uncle_Ted 10-10-2009 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metrolike (Post 6156300)
The danger of taking too much Vicodin is that it has a shitload of acetaminophen (Tylenol) in it and if you take more than 4000mg of Tylenol a day for for too long, your liver will go to shit and I mean SHIT. FDA is about to change a lot of laws regarding combination meds (with Tylenol) due to massive amounts of liver failures. Percocet is the same except it has Oxycodone in it instead of Hydrocodone and that's pretty much like heroin. Take enough Oxycodone (chronic pain, years worth), there's no getting off that shit, the doctors will be increasing the doses until you're wearing patches (Fentanyl), sucking lollipops and popping pills 24/7 just to sustain the opiate addiction... the good thing is that opiate tolerance pretty much has no ceiling, the bad thing is that it gets really really expensive.

It's really scary.

Heavy drinking + acetominaphen = liver damage.

Also, taking it on a full stomach will reduce its effectiveness.

Jack 10-10-2009 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fairplay (Post 6157292)
My experience with Tramadol is not so good.

It is was hard for me to concentrate and i felt stupid. After 10 pills or so i threw the bottle away.

Don't affect me, I'm retired

patteeu 10-10-2009 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uncle_Ted (Post 6157397)
Heavy drinking + acetominaphen = liver damage.

Also, taking it on a full stomach will reduce its effectiveness.

I saw one of the resident doctors on CNN talking about this a month or so ago. He said that the acetaminophen creates some kind of substance in your system that can be toxic to the liver. Under normal circumstances your liver has the ability to break this toxin down to prevent damage, but apparently when you drink, the alcohol suppresses whatever it is that breaks down the toxin so your liver gets hit pretty hard.

DenverChief 10-10-2009 01:47 PM

they gave me hydrocodone for some kidney stones a few years back and I was curled up on the kitchen floor with a 1000mg in me and still in extreme pain....when I showed up @ the ER they gave me hydromorphone which worked MUCH MUCH better


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