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ShowtimeSBMVP 04-17-2013 05:39 PM

Branden Albert trade won’t happen unless he lowers his price
 
Branden Albert trade won’t happen unless he lowers his price
Posted by Michael David Smith on April 21, 2013, 6:46 PM EDT
Branden Albert AP

The much-discussed potential trade of Branden Albert from the Chiefs to the Dolphins doesn’t appear likely at the price Albert is currently seeking.

Although the Chiefs and Dolphins can probably agree on compensation — the Dolphins sending a second-round pick to Kansas City — the hangup is that Albert wants the kind of money that the Dolphins aren’t willing to spend. Specifically, according to Jason Cole of Yahoo! Sports, Albert wants between $8 million and $9 million a year on a long-term deal.

In other words, Albert is looking for the same kind of contract that left tackle Jake Long got from the Rams — the very contract the Dolphins wouldn’t give Long, which is why he left Miami for St. Louis.

If the Dolphins weren’t willing to pay Long that kind of money, it’s hard to see why they’d be willing to give up a second-round draft pick for the privilege of paying Albert that kind of money. So the Dolphins may need to look elsewhere for a left tackle. And Albert may have to settle for playing this season for the Chiefs, making $9.8 million, and hitting free agency next year.

penbrook 04-17-2013 05:40 PM

And this is new news? Hasnt every person out there said the Dolphins want Albert.

DaneMcCloud 04-17-2013 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9596877)
And this is new news? Hasnt every person out there said the Dolphins want Albert.

:facepalm:

ShowtimeSBMVP 04-17-2013 05:41 PM

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 4m

As I said on TA: I do hear #Dolphins are interested in #Chiefs OT Branden Albert. Big question: Will #Chiefs take No. 54, 2nd 2nd rounder?

Chris Meck 04-17-2013 05:41 PM

If and when this happens, y'all remember I called it, right? :)

So it'll be Fisher at #1, and we'll get a 2nd back and take Nassib/Barkley/Manuel/Dysert/whomever Andy likes.

notorious 04-17-2013 05:42 PM

Uh-Oh

Chiefs Pantalones 04-17-2013 05:42 PM

Unless it's for this year's second round pick (one of them), no.

BlackHelicopters 04-17-2013 05:43 PM

:shake:

Sassy Squatch 04-17-2013 05:44 PM

That's going to free up a shitton of cap. Better get a couple more OL pieces.

DaneMcCloud 04-17-2013 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 9596883)
Unless it's for this year's second round pick (one of them), no.

They have two second rounders so I'd imagine it'll be the higher of the two (#42).

Fritz88 04-17-2013 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9596879)
Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 4m

As I said on TA: I do hear #Dolphins are interested in #Chiefs OT Branden Albert. Big question: Will #Chiefs take No. 54, 2nd 2nd rounder?

Yes. Seeing how Dorsey was raped in the Alex Smith trade.

Rain Man 04-17-2013 05:45 PM

It's a fire sale to give up Albert for a 2nd. However, if we're going to draft a tackle anyway we don't have much leverage.

So in essence, we will have traded Albert and some pick next year for Alex Smith.

InChiefsHeaven 04-17-2013 05:46 PM

****.

penbrook 04-17-2013 05:46 PM

Hell we trade Albert. We draft Fisher and sign Andre Smith. That would be huge.

Mother****erJones 04-17-2013 05:46 PM

Ugh better be the higher 2nd rounder.

Hammock Parties 04-17-2013 05:47 PM

http://2guystalkingmetsbaseball.com/..._MON098143.jpg

Direckshun 04-17-2013 05:47 PM

Several of us predicted this.

Hope we get something good out of the deal. If we can land anything better than just a 2nd rounder...

DaneMcCloud 04-17-2013 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9596893)
Hell we trade Albert. We draft Fisher and sign Andre Smith. That would be huge.

Andre Smith?

Yeah, no. Not unless he wants to play for $3 million a season. There's no way I'd trust that lazy piece of shit with a big contract.

Chiefs Pantalones 04-17-2013 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9596888)
They have two second rounders so I'd imagine it'll be the higher of the two (#42).

It's gonna be Joeklelelelel or Fisher now at 1, but who do you think we get in the second if this goes through?

DaneMcCloud 04-17-2013 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 9596897)
Several of us predicted this.

Nostradumbass

DTLB58 04-17-2013 05:49 PM

So, Ian Rapoport just said on NFLN one of the two trade possibilities he is keeping his eye on is Brandon Albert to the Dolphins.

The questions is? Would the Chiefs be willing to take the Dolphins second pick in the 2nd round #22, 54th overall? The Dolphins first pick in the second round is #10, 42nd overall.

The #10 spot would be 8 picks from where we would have originally picked before the Smith trade.

penbrook 04-17-2013 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 9596897)
Several of us predicted this.

Hope we get something good out of the deal. If we can land anything better than just a 2nd rounder...

Heres what we do. We trade Albert and get the higher of the Dolphins pick. We draft Fisher (Not a fan of a T at #1) sign Andre Smith to play RT and than draft a Barkley or Manuel in the second.

Sassy Squatch 04-17-2013 05:50 PM

Yeah, Dorsey/Reid shouldn't be allowed to trade anymore after this. Getting fleeced twice when you have a 2-14 team is ****ing unacceptable.

dirk digler 04-17-2013 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wonton Prejudice (Post 9596896)

Pretty much. The more things change the more they stay the same.

notorious 04-17-2013 05:54 PM

http://www.documentingreality.com/fo...indow_fall.gif

mdchiefsfan 04-17-2013 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9596919)

this gif never fails LMAO

chiefzilla1501 04-17-2013 05:58 PM

****ing terrible trade. God I hope this is just a smoke screen.

notorious 04-17-2013 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 9596921)
this gif never fails LMAO

I think I overuse it, but in reality it is not used enough.

007 04-17-2013 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9596879)
Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 4m

As I said on TA: I do hear #Dolphins are interested in #Chiefs OT Branden Albert. Big question: Will #Chiefs take No. 54, 2nd 2nd rounder?

For Albert? JFC they should at least give up the first 2nd rounder.

notorious 04-17-2013 06:01 PM

I am thinking we should get thier first 2nd rounder this year and a second next year.


Am I over-stating Albert's value?

penbrook 04-17-2013 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9596922)
****ing terrible trade. God I hope this is just a smoke screen.

Im hoping too but everyone is reporting it. Im just waiting for it to read..

@Jay Glazer the KC Chiefs trade Branden Albert to the Miami Dolphins for the 54th pick in the 2013 NFL Draft.

mdchiefsfan 04-17-2013 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9596924)
I think I overuse it, but in reality it is not used enough.

Heresy and truth in one sentence. Congrats!

RunKC 04-17-2013 06:02 PM

We better get that top 50 pick. Albert is worth that much.

notorious 04-17-2013 06:02 PM

Well, we traded the #1 and a little more for Alex Smith.


**** me.

bowener 04-17-2013 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9596922)
****ing terrible trade. God I hope this is just a smoke screen.

It isn't.

Is Albert not worth both 2nd rounders they have?? Last I checked the Dolphins are desperate for a LT. We could still draft Fisher, which leaves the Dolphins even more ****ed. That would drive the value of Albert up, so why not just do that on draft day, then see what the Dolphins will give up?

Sassy Squatch 04-17-2013 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bowener (Post 9596938)
It isn't.

Is Albert not worth both 2nd rounders they have?? Last I checked the Dolphins are desperate for a LT. We could still draft Fisher, which leaves the Dolphins even more ****ed. That would drive the value of Albert up, so why not just do that on draft day, then see what the Dolphins will give up?

Apparently Dorsey is a reerun though.

The Bad Guy 04-17-2013 06:03 PM

Writing has been on the wall for a while.

I was also told today that the Chiefs were the ones that told Albert to stay away and that he would have reported if they hadn't said that.

I'd be shocked if they took Joeckel though. Fisher is the lineman in the Reid style. He wants guys who are big and who can maul and that's Fisher.

It's not Joeckel and it's not Albert.

Albert turned the team off for a number of reasons 1 being his inability to be flexible for the good of the team, the other is his contract demands and the 3rd is they question how well he's going to hold up on a long term deal due to the various body transformations he has undergone.

If the Chiefs can get the 42, take it and clear 9 million off the books.

I know it's not popular around here, but Dorsey made the right move franchising and trading this guy since they really just don't think he fits.

The Bad Guy 04-17-2013 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9596931)
I am thinking we should get thier first 2nd rounder this year and a second next year.


Am I over-stating Albert's value?

Yes.

KC_Lee 04-17-2013 06:04 PM

Package Albert, 1.1 for the Fins' 1st, 2nd and 5th this year and 1st and 3rd next year.

ChiefMojo 04-17-2013 06:04 PM

Likely hold up is KC wanting #42 and Miami wanting to only give up #54. I have a feeling this trade is going down regardless as in the end one will give in the day before or on draft day.

ILChief 04-17-2013 06:05 PM

The sooner this happens, the sooner everyone can accept we're drafting Joeckel or Fisher

notorious 04-17-2013 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 9596946)
The sooner this happens, the sooner everyone can accept we're drafting Joeckel or Fisher

I've accepted it, but it still doesn't stop me from doing this:




"Sigh"

TribalElder 04-17-2013 06:06 PM

This is epic fail

KC_Lee 04-17-2013 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 9596946)
The sooner this happens, the sooner everyone can accept we're drafting Joeckel or Fisher

That's sort where I am now.

OnTheWarpath15 04-17-2013 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 9596908)
Yeah, Dorsey/Reid shouldn't be allowed to trade anymore after this. Getting fleeced twice when you have a 2-14 team is ****ing unacceptable.

Truth.

This organization has won 29 games in 6 years. The only way we're getting out of this mess is to draft EXTREMELY well over the next few years - but apparently it's a good idea to throw away draft picks on a 30 year old game manager QB and spend the only 1.1 in franchise history to replace a Top 8 LT.

Yeah, that makes this team better in the long run.

Only this organization can **** up the two most important and valuable draft picks they've ever had.

The burning man out of the window .gif doesn't even do this justice.

Sassy Squatch 04-17-2013 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9596941)
Writing has been on the wall for a while.

I was also told today that the Chiefs were the ones that told Albert to stay away and that he would have reported if they hadn't said that.

I'd be shocked if they took Joeckel though. Fisher is the lineman in the Reid style. He wants guys who are big and who can maul and that's Fisher.

It's not Joeckel and it's not Albert.

Albert turned the team off for a number of reasons 1 being his inability to be flexible for the good of the team, the other is his contract demands and the 3rd is they question how well he's going to hold up on a long term deal due to the various body transformations he has undergone.

If the Chiefs can get the 42, take it and clear 9 million off the books.

I know it's not popular around here, but Dorsey made the right move franchising and trading this guy since they really just don't think he fits.

So Albert's been gone all along. Oh well.

caligula 04-17-2013 06:08 PM

so, the dolphins (who drafted a first round QB last year) are getting a starting left tackle (proven veteran) for a low 2nd

and we're getting a rookie starting tackle for the #1 pick in the draft, while spending a high second round pick (and more) on a QB who was a back up


and this isn't ****ing reeruned because why?

notorious 04-17-2013 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 9596956)
So Albert's been gone all along. Oh well.

We all knew it to be true.

YayMike 04-17-2013 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9596941)
Writing has been on the wall for a while.

I was also told today that the Chiefs were the ones that told Albert to stay away and that he would have reported if they hadn't said that.

I'd be shocked if they took Joeckel though. Fisher is the lineman in the Reid style. He wants guys who are big and who can maul and that's Fisher.

It's not Joeckel and it's not Albert.

Albert turned the team off for a number of reasons 1 being his inability to be flexible for the good of the team, the other is his contract demands and the 3rd is they question how well he's going to hold up on a long term deal due to the various body transformations he has undergone.

If the Chiefs can get the 42, take it and clear 9 million off the books.

I know it's not popular around here, but Dorsey made the right move franchising and trading this guy since they really just don't think he fits.

This makes sense. Gonna miss Albert. Thanks as always for the info.

notorious 04-17-2013 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caligula (Post 9596958)
so, the dolphins (who drafted a first round QB last year) are getting a starting left tackle (proven veteran) for a low 2nd

and we're getting a rookie starting tackle for the #1 pick in the draft, while spending a high second round pick (and more) on a QB who was a back up


and this isn't ****ing reeruned because why?

nOOb is correct.

Nightfyre 04-17-2013 06:09 PM

This off-season has been absolutely unacceptable. I don't know why I even give a shit about this franchise anymore. It is absolute bullshit that we, as fans, have been subjected to absolute shit since Trent Green's egg got scrambled and this is the kind of offseason we get from the "new boss." Same as the old boss, if you ask me.

OnTheWarpath15 04-17-2013 06:09 PM

****, while we're at it, let's trade Jamaal for a 3rd and draft his replacement with the R2 pick we get from Miami.

Rain Man 04-17-2013 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9596922)
****ing terrible trade. God I hope this is just a smoke screen.

The smoke is just coming from that guy who's falling out the window.

Nightfyre 04-17-2013 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9596965)
****, while we're at it, let's trade Jamaal for a 3rd and draft his replacement with the R2 pick we get from Miami.

Trade Houston for a fourth and draft his replacement with the third we get from Jamaal.

ILChief 04-17-2013 06:11 PM

Wow this place has way too high an opinion of Branden Albert

notorious 04-17-2013 06:11 PM

I am going to wake up and find that we still have our early 2nd round pick.....


This is a ****ing nightmare.

Sassy Squatch 04-17-2013 06:12 PM

**** it. God I hope Chase Daniel can ball. That's the only hope now.

Hammock Parties 04-17-2013 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 9596969)
Wow this place has way too high an opinion of Branden Albert

We can win a Super Bowl with him at LT.

So it's really a bunch of ****ing bullshit that he's being traded so we can spend 1.1 on his replacement.

We're probably improving that position 15 percent, at best, down the road.

OnTheWarpath15 04-17-2013 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wonton Prejudice (Post 9596975)
We can win a Super Bowl with him at LT.

So it's really a bunch of ****ing bullshit.

You can win a SB with just about anyone at LT.

But not with a slapdick at QB.

-King- 04-17-2013 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9596941)
Writing has been on the wall for a while.

I was also told today that the Chiefs were the ones that told Albert to stay away and that he would have reported if they hadn't said that.

Reid said that it was Albert who is choosing to stay away.

Sassy Squatch 04-17-2013 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 9596969)
Wow this place has way too high an opinion of Branden Albert

**** Albert. I don't really care about him one way or another. The implications of trading him piss me off though.

Bewbies 04-17-2013 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 9596969)
Wow this place has way too high an opinion of Branden Albert

No, it's replacing him with the #1 overall pick.

YayMike 04-17-2013 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9596943)
Yes.

Are you hearing anything about them finding any takers to trade down? If we get a 2nd for Albert and can snag another 2nd or 3rd to move down and still get Fisher that would be the best case considering the whole ****ed up situation.

penbrook 04-17-2013 06:14 PM

I still refuse to believe Dorsey is this stupid.

-King- 04-17-2013 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 9596969)
Wow this place has way too high an opinion of Branden Albert

5.5 sacks allowed per year. 1 more than Joe Thomas.


But hey... when you can get rid of a player like that and then draft his replacement first overall, that's a move you just have to make.

Bewbies 04-17-2013 06:14 PM

The best thing about this is nothing.

-King- 04-17-2013 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9596981)
I still refuse to believe Dorsey is this stupid.

He have up two 2nd round picks for Alex Smith. What's so hard to believe?

Sorter 04-17-2013 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9596965)
****, while we're at it, let's trade Jamaal for a 3rd and draft his replacement with the R2 pick we get from Miami.

Might as well.

****, should probably trade Tamba. Dorsey/Reid could probably get a 4th for him and a 4th for Flowers as well.

Rain Man 04-17-2013 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 9596969)
Wow this place has way too high an opinion of Branden Albert

You don't think he's valuable? Some teams are willing to spend a #1 pick for a good left tackle.

Hammock Parties 04-17-2013 06:15 PM

We're literally pissing away the #1 pick.

This is just indefensible.

Hog's Gone Fishin 04-17-2013 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9596931)
I am thinking we should get thier first 2nd rounder this year and a second next year.


Am I over-stating Albert's value?



Albert was a 1st round pick AND he is proven solid. Getting the 54 th for him would be horrible.

jspchief 04-17-2013 06:16 PM

So we use the 15th pick to get a LT that will net us the 42nd pick, maybe when joeckel pans out we can trade him for the 27th pick and get a LT.

Jerm 04-17-2013 06:16 PM

Soooo essentially it's 1.1, what amounts to basically another first rounder, and Albert for Smith, Joeckel/Fisher, and a lower 2nd rounder...

:facepalm:

Nightfyre 04-17-2013 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ponderception (Post 9596987)
Might as well.

****, should probably trade Tamba. Dorsey/Reid could probably get a 4th for him and a 4th for Flowers as well.

I almost went he Hali route - but then I thought about it and decided they might just do that to unload his contract. So I went with Houston instead - which to me, is a more valid comparison because Hali is past his prime, where Houston is just entering his (like Albert.)

Direckshun 04-17-2013 06:17 PM

Eh, we're giving him away at a discount.

The team trading for him has to pay us AND pay him.

notorious 04-17-2013 06:17 PM

Alex Smith better be amazing, because his trade is what started all of this.

Sorter 04-17-2013 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 9596993)
So we use the 15th pick to get a LT that will net us the 42nd pick, maybe when joeckel pans out we can trade him for the 27th pick and get a LT.

Sounds about right.

Yay.

ILChief 04-17-2013 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 9596979)
No, it's replacing him with the #1 overall pick.

Well if they really don't like geno, we don't have a lot holes so you take the BPA which according to almost everyone with credibility says is Joeckel or fisher

OnTheWarpath15 04-17-2013 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9596982)
5.5 sacks allowed per year. 1 more than Joe Thomas.


But hey... when you can get rid of a player like that and then draft his replacement first overall, that's a move you just have to make.

LMAO

007 04-17-2013 06:18 PM

Just thickening.


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