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OnTheWarpath15 11-21-2012 08:10 PM

I hate the internet - Thanksgiving Edition
 
Cooking a 22 pound bird tomorrow for only the second time in my life. (long story) Was putting together my schedule for tomorrow to at least try to time everything correctly and made the mistake of looking at multiple websites to try to determine an approximate cooking time for this beast.

The plan is to roast it unstuffed, in the oven, at 325*. Bird is sitting in a brine as we speak.

I've been to 10 different websites, and they all seem to say something different. I'm seeing times ranging from 3.5 hours all the way up to 6.

Help a brother out - roughly how long is this bird going to take?

Dayze 11-21-2012 08:13 PM

Don't eat it too early....you'll get worms.



....I got nothin.

KcMizzou 11-21-2012 08:16 PM

I've cooked exactly one. Used one of those oven bags. It turned out fine.

Doesn't yours have one of those little timer things that pops out when it's ready? That's all I judged by. (other than the instructions on the turkey) :shrug:

BlackHelicopters 11-21-2012 08:16 PM

Sorry dude. Vodka has taken over. Good luck and Happy Thanksgiving to all.

SAUTO 11-21-2012 08:18 PM

If you fried it you wouldn't have this problem...


I got nothing either. Sorry. try Angelo?
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Bowser 11-21-2012 08:18 PM

The wife says to aim to four hours, then use a thermo to check until it gets to 165 degrees. Let rest for 15-20 minutes.

She wants to know what kind of brine are you using?

the Talking Can 11-21-2012 08:20 PM

3-3.5 hours probably...is what 'm finding

the Talking Can 11-21-2012 08:21 PM

don't know if it is sacrilegious...but i've always used a cooking bag and it comes out fine

OnTheWarpath15 11-21-2012 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 9140321)
I've cooked exactly one. Used one of those oven bags. It turned out fine.

Doesn't yours have one of those little timer things that pops out when it's ready? That's all I judged by. (other than the instructions on the turkey) :shrug:

Does not have a timer. Not sure I'd trust it anyway.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9140328)
If you fried it you wouldn't have this problem...


I got nothing either. Sorry. try Angelo?
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I'm smoking some breasts, but doing the big bird in the oven, primarily because I like my house, and I'd likely burn it down if I tried to deep fry it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9140330)
The wife says to aim to four hours, then use a thermo to check until it gets to 165 degrees. Let rest for 15-20 minutes.

She wants to know what kind of brine are you using?

Thanks.

Using this:

http://www.williams-sonoma.com/produ...-turkey-brine/

Had a bird brined in it last Christmas, it was ****ing phenomenal.

the Talking Can 11-21-2012 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9140337)
3-3.5 hours probably...is what 'm finding

nevermind, i see what you're talking about....every ****ing site is different by an hour

OnTheWarpath15 11-21-2012 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9140347)
nevermind, i see what you're talking about....every ****ing site is different by an hour

At least.

OnTheWarpath15 11-21-2012 08:24 PM

And yes, I know I should have asked this more than 12 hours in advance.

LMAO

the Talking Can 11-21-2012 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9140348)
At least.

165 temp does seem to be a consensus...

i'd plan for about 15 mins per lb and check w/ thermometer towards the end

SAUTO 11-21-2012 08:25 PM

Where's the sense of adventure?

Be epic to burn the mother****er down with everyone there...
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SAUTO 11-21-2012 08:26 PM

Oh and jk ftr
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OnTheWarpath15 11-21-2012 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9140355)
165 temp does seem to be a consensus...

Yeah. Which means I'll pull it at just under 160. There will be close to 5* of carryover.

Thinking of starting it an hour "early" just in case. If I need the extra hour, I'll have it. If not, then I can always use the 'ole faux cambro trick.

Psyko Tek 11-21-2012 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 9140322)
Sorry dude. Vodka has taken over. Good luck and Happy Thanksgiving to all.

marinate in vodka
then cook until detroit scores a touchdown
if detroit does not score a touch down,
wait until somebody says ROMO is an elite QB
at which point you turn the turkey over
discard it's tin foil tent,

did I mention the tin foil tent, sorry just thought of it

and cram a can of fosters in to it's nether regions
may not do any good , but male cooking must involve beer

remove when the last announcer finally agrees that dallas has no shot at the play offs again
by that time the skin of the turkey should have reached the texture of jerry jones facelift

take 4 vodka shots from the turkey drippings and declare it done


it's crazy enough it might work

Simply Red 11-21-2012 08:29 PM

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Radar Chief 11-21-2012 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9140309)
Cooking a 22 pound bird tomorrow for only the second time in my life. (long story) Was putting together my schedule for tomorrow to at least try to time everything correctly and made the mistake of looking at multiple websites to try to determine an approximate cooking time for this beast.

The plan is to roast it unstuffed, in the oven, at 325*. Bird is sitting in a brine as we speak.

I've been to 10 different websites, and they all seem to say something different. I'm seeing times ranging from 3.5 hours all the way up to 6.

Help a brother out - roughly how long is this bird going to take?

At 325* I'd think 6 hours would dry the shit out of it.
3-3.5 sounds about right. You bagging it or just sticking it in a pan in the oven?

Bowser 11-21-2012 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9140343)
Thanks.

Using this:

http://www.williams-sonoma.com/produ...-turkey-brine/

Had a bird brined in it last Christmas, it was ****ing phenomenal.

Looks good. Williams Sonoma is the shit.

Our brine is something she found online from the Food Network. It has in it molasses, honey, soy sauce, garlic, kosher salt, thyme, sage, and red pepper. WHAT COULD GO WRONG?

She's also making a batch of jalapeno deviled eggs. I don't know why we just don't play the "Drink the Ipecac" game and see who lasts the longest.

Easy 6 11-21-2012 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9140373)
She's also making a batch of jalapeno deviled eggs.

:hmmm: that sounds excellent.

Johnny Vegas 11-21-2012 08:38 PM

3 1/2 hours is way too short of a time to cook a 22 lbs turkey. That's the amount of time for a 12 lbs turkey. I always buy a 12 lbs turkey and know its 4 hours tops stuffed or 3 1/2 unstuffed. A 22 lbs turkey is more like 5-6 hours at 325. 6 hours stuffed 5 1/2 unstuffed. I'm brining mine as well then when I put it in he oven I put 2 cans of Budweiser and butter in the pan to flavor up that skin. Also cover with tin foil till the final hour.

Strongside 11-21-2012 08:39 PM

I recommend dynamite and Tortilla chips.

OnTheWarpath15 11-21-2012 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radar Chief (Post 9140372)
At 325* I'd think 6 hours would dry the shit out of it.
3-3.5 sounds about right. You bagging it or just sticking it in a pan in the oven?

Roasting rack/pan. No bag.

Simply Red 11-21-2012 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9140373)
Looks good. Williams Sonoma is the shit.

Our brine is something she found online from the Food Network. It has in it molasses, honey, soy sauce, garlic, kosher salt, thyme, sage, and red pepper. WHAT COULD GO WRONG?

She's also making a batch of jalapeno deviled eggs. I don't know why we just don't play the "Drink the Ipecac" game and see who lasts the longest.

i've never heard of jalapeno deviled eggs, i often use green olives and vidalia o's.

dirk digler 11-21-2012 08:43 PM

I finding 6-7 hours unstuffed

BossChief 11-21-2012 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9140390)
:hmmm: that sounds excellent.

Yes, yes it does.

I might have to add some Jalepenos and juice into my next batch of deviled egg salad.

Bowser 11-21-2012 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9140390)
:hmmm: that sounds excellent.

Yeah, I'm curious. I'll report back and how they turn out.

BEST CASE - Nom Nom Yummy, fall asleep drooling on self
WORST CASE - Combination of jalapenos and deviled egg stuff (not to mention the rest of Thanksgiving fare) sends intestines into spastic shock, turning tomorrow into a story that starts "Remember the year Bowser barely made it to the toilet on time?" "Yeah. We had to freaking leave! I was scared for his health!"

In58men 11-21-2012 08:44 PM

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Bowser 11-21-2012 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 9140401)
i've never heard of jalapeno deviled eggs, i often use green olives and vidalia o's.

All in all, we'll have THREE batches of deviled eggs - Jalapeno, Original, and Smoked Salmon with Capers. I'm assuming if one or both of the new recipes fall flat, we can still have the original to fall back on. I like how she thinks that will save her from future ribbings.

OnTheWarpath15 11-21-2012 08:48 PM

Just found an app on Butterball's website, it's saying 3.5-4.

My favorite grilling/BBQ website has an entire page dedicated to turkey, and it is saying 3-3.5.

I'm gonna plan on 3.5-4 hours. And I think I'm gonna start a shade early just in case, and resort to using a cambro if it's done early.

DeezNutz 11-21-2012 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 9140315)
Don't eat it too early....you'll get worms.

cdcox is pissed, but his wife has a retort.

Johnny Vegas 11-21-2012 08:56 PM

Just remember that the ideal time is 15 minutes per pound. Some people even preach 20 minutes per pound.

Dayze 11-21-2012 08:58 PM

Don't listen to Johnny Vegas...he doesn't know shit.

It's 3 minutes per pound.

DeezNutz 11-21-2012 08:59 PM

It's five minutes per pound; these ****ing True Fans don't know shit.

Johnny Vegas 11-21-2012 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 9140436)
Don't listen to Johnny Vegas...he doesn't know shit.

It's 3 minutes per pound.

Yep three minutes per pound in the microwave. :thumb:

Dayze 11-21-2012 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Vegas (Post 9140445)
Yep three minutes per pound in the microwave. :thumb:

and leave it uncovered. That's what makes it juicy.

Johnny Vegas 11-21-2012 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 9140450)
and leave it uncovered. That's what makes it juicy.

I think the trick was leaving a can of Budweiser with the bird in the microwave. Explosion of juices.

Easy 6 11-21-2012 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 9140436)
Don't listen to Johnny Vegas...he doesn't know shit.

It's 3 minutes per pound.

LMAO

Dayze 11-21-2012 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Vegas (Post 9140456)
I think the trick was leaving a can of Budweiser with the bird in the microwave. Explosion of juices.

I see what you did there

Johnny Vegas 11-21-2012 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9140441)
It's five minutes per pound; these ****ing True Fans don't know shit.

If I didn't know any better it sounds like a black Friday deal in London at the local peep show theatre.

Bowser 11-21-2012 09:10 PM

Come to ChiefsPlanet for advice on cooking Thanksgiving turkey, end up eating take out Chinese.

Sounds about right.

Easy 6 11-21-2012 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9140407)
Yeah, I'm curious. I'll report back and how they turn out.

BEST CASE - Nom Nom Yummy, fall asleep drooling on self
WORST CASE - Combination of jalapenos and deviled egg stuff (not to mention the rest of Thanksgiving fare) sends intestines into spastic shock, turning tomorrow into a story that starts "Remember the year Bowser barely made it to the toilet on time?" "Yeah. We had to freaking leave! I was scared for his health!"

I'm going to go ahead and call NOM NOM right now.

The stuffing and all of the other goodies in your gut will soak up the japs.

OnTheWarpath15 11-21-2012 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9140463)
Come to ChiefsPlanet for advice on cooking Thanksgiving turkey, end up eating take out Chinese.

Sounds about right.

If all else fails, I'll drink my dinner.

New bottle of Laphroaig 18 year, new bottle of Black Maple Hill bourbon, a case of Tank 7 and a half case of Bell's Two Hearted Ale.

I think I'm set.

Dayze 11-21-2012 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9140463)
Come to ChiefsPlanet for advice on cooking Thanksgiving turkey, end up eating take out Chinese.

Sounds about right.

lol. no shit.

Don't trust CP for anything except antifreeze advice.

oh...and AIDS.

Dayze 11-21-2012 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9140473)
If all else fails, I'll drink my dinner.

New bottle of Laphroaig 18 year, new bottle of Black Maple Hill bourbon, a case of Tank 7 and a half case of Bell's Two Hearted Ale.

I think I'm set.

In all seriousness though....it really is 3minutes per pound.
Hope this helps.

k thx bye

Jenson71 11-21-2012 09:18 PM

I've got my deep fat fryer set up in my kitchen, so I'm all ready for tomorrow.

Bowser 11-21-2012 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9140473)
If all else fails, I'll drink my dinner.

New bottle of Laphroaig 18 year, new bottle of Black Maple Hill bourbon, a case of Tank 7 and a half case of Bell's Two Hearted Ale.

I think I'm set.

Shit. Got room for 8-10 more?

Excellent move on your part getting the cooking directions NOW, by the way. Get a good combo of those drinks going in your bellah first, and you may have just shoved that turkey into a ****ing potato gun and launched it into the Mississippi after you cooked it too long.

Good luck tomorrow. Report back on the finished product.

Phobia 11-21-2012 09:28 PM

For future reference 12-15 lbs birds cook better and taste better. If you need more, cook 2. Looks like you have a pretty good handle on it now. I've never roasted a bird indoors. I either smoke or fry them, somebody a little of both.

mlyonsd 11-21-2012 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 9140505)
For future reference 12-15 lbs birds cook better and taste better. If you need more, cook 2. Looks like you have a pretty good handle on it now. I've never roasted a bird indoors. I either smoke or fry them, somebody a little of both.

Bleh

RJ 11-21-2012 09:35 PM

I usually cook at a higher temp than 325 so I can't swear to this, but I think you're looking at 4.5-5.0 hours. Personally, I've followed Alton Brown's brined turkey advice for years and I've never had a problem. Tomorrow I'm doing one on the smoker and one on the grill, just because.

prhom 11-21-2012 09:38 PM

Next year buy a thermometer with a remote probe and an alarm. That's what I used before I switched to deep frying. Follow Alton Brown's directions for cooking and it's unbeatable. No need to cook all day as long as you get a good temp reading in the thickest part of the breast.

cdcox 11-21-2012 11:58 PM

I always buy Butterball turkey's because they come with directions and they are no fail (I've done over 20 of their turkeys).

At 325 unstuffed and uncovered you are looking at 4 hours plus or minus half an hour. Doneness is determined by temperature. You want the breast at 165 and the thigh at 180. Getting the thermometer in the thigh at the right place is a little tricky.

"The tip of the meat thermometer should be placed in the thigh muscle just above and beyond the lower part of the thighbone but not touching the bone, and it should be pointing toward the body. For the stuffing temperature, the tip of the thermometer should be in the center of the body cavity." http://www.butterball.com/tips-how-t...turkey-is-done

Cover the breast with foil about 2/3 the way through cooking.

Bugeater 11-22-2012 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 9140321)
I've cooked exactly one. Used one of those oven bags. It turned out fine.

Oh my...wait until Fire Me Boy! sees this. You should just get the "I'm leaving forever" thread going now.

Simply Red 11-22-2012 12:12 AM

the bags are fine. No biggie.

Mrs. Loopner 11-22-2012 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 9140776)
I always buy Butterball turkey's because they come with directions and they are no fail (I've done over 20 of their turkeys).

At 325 unstuffed and uncovered you are looking at 4 hours plus or minus half an hour. Doneness is determined by temperature. You want the breast at 165 and the thigh at 180. Getting the thermometer in the thigh at the right place is a little tricky.

"The tip of the meat thermometer should be placed in the thigh muscle just above and beyond the lower part of the thighbone but not touching the bone, and it should be pointing toward the body. For the stuffing temperature, the tip of the thermometer should be in the center of the body cavity." http://www.butterball.com/tips-how-t...turkey-is-done

Cover the breast with foil about 2/3 the way through cooking.

This definitely!!!

Bugeater 11-22-2012 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 9140791)
the bags are fine. No biggie.

If you know what's best for you, you'll grab some food and water and lock yourself into your basement.

listopencil 11-22-2012 02:34 AM

Just make sure you use a thermometer.

Johnny Vegas 11-22-2012 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 9140484)
In all seriousness though....it really is 3minutes per pound.
Hope this helps.

k thx bye

then his 22 pound turkey is done in an hour. that isn't right at all if he's roasting. I think your mixing up roasting times with deep frying times which I thought he was roasting his.

Bwana 11-22-2012 09:53 AM

Quote:

You can go with your "best guess," but the way to know for sure is get yourself a good commercial grade meat thermometer, preferably two. The internet is a decent guide, or starting point, but as you said, there are several different instructions for the same size bird. You have to take into consideration altitude, the variations in temperature deviation in different ovens, etc.

I own 10 TEL-TRU thermometers that I use for smoking. When I smoke, I like to really dial things in. I will also use two of them for a turkey, or a prime rib. I use two so I can make sure there isn't any kind of issue going on within the meat. You can get a cheap Wal-Mart thermometer, but you're stuck with a cheap thermometer. They may or may not work. When I'm cooking a $100+ piece of prime rib, or a decent Turkey, that doesn't cut it.

Like I said, step up to a TEL-TRU or two and it will be the best cooking investment you can have. You can find deals on-line, by taking some time to look around.
http://www.teltru.com/s-44-food-service.aspx

http://www.teltru.com/images/Product...m/26100556.jpg

Brock 11-22-2012 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Vegas (Post 9141179)
then his 22 pound turkey is done in an hour. that isn't right at all if he's roasting. I think your mixing up roasting times with deep frying times which I thought he was roasting his.

Yep. He's looking at 3-4 hours at 350 in a roaster. as always though, the temperature of the meat is the deciding factor.

Bwana 11-22-2012 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 9141260)
Yep. He's looking at 3-4 hours at 350 in a roaster. as always though, the temperature of the meat is the deciding factor.

Bingo

OnTheWarpath15 11-22-2012 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 9141260)
Yep. He's looking at 3-4 hours at 350 in a roaster. as always though, the temperature of the meat is the deciding factor.

This is the plan.

It went in at 10:00, I'll check it with a thermo at 1:00 and go from there.

Rausch 11-22-2012 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 9141260)
Yep. He's looking at 3-4...

CAPERS

DON ****ING CAPERS AND A REAL HEAD COA-...



My bad, reflex. Have a good turkey all...

Bwana 11-22-2012 11:56 AM

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tel-Tru-BT27...item45fd278f52

OnTheWarpath15 11-22-2012 03:44 PM

4 hours and 5 minutes and it was perfect.

Happy Thanksgiving y'all.

cdcox 11-22-2012 03:49 PM

Boom.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 9140776)
I always buy Butterball turkey's because they come with directions and they are no fail (I've done over 20 of their turkeys).

At 325 unstuffed and uncovered you are looking at 4 hours plus or minus half an hour. Doneness is determined by temperature. You want the breast at 165 and the thigh at 180. Getting the thermometer in the thigh at the right place is a little tricky.

"The tip of the meat thermometer should be placed in the thigh muscle just above and beyond the lower part of the thighbone but not touching the bone, and it should be pointing toward the body. For the stuffing temperature, the tip of the thermometer should be in the center of the body cavity." http://www.butterball.com/tips-how-t...turkey-is-done

Cover the breast with foil about 2/3 the way through cooking.


crazycoffey 11-22-2012 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9142068)
4 hours and 5 minutes and it was perfect.

Happy Thanksgiving y'all.

happy bird day to you too buddy!

SAUTO 11-22-2012 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9142068)
4 hours and 5 minutes and it was perfect.

Happy Thanksgiving y'all.

Congrats. happy Thanksgiving to you too
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Bugeater 11-22-2012 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 9142075)
Boom.

You probably cheated by using some fancy turkey cooktime forecasting software.


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