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***Official 2016 STL Cardinals Thread***

2011 World Series Championship
2012 NLCS. One win from another WS appearance.
2013 World Series. Two wins from another World Series Championship
2014 NLCS. Three wins from another WS appearance
2015 Central Division title. Won 100 games. Lost in the NLDS.
Made the postseason 11 times in the last 15 seasons.
67 post season wins since 2004. 24+ wins more than any other team.

SI article on our off season, Gives us a "A". ??:
http://www.si.com/mlb/2016/02/12/win...ouis-cardinals

2015 III thread:
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=295296
2015 II thread:
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=293412
2015 I thread:
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=289085

I just want to be first in one of these megathreads.

First.

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Originally Posted by TimBone (Post 12079213)

I just want to be first in one of these megathreads.

First.

Your not a Cardinal fan, correct?

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 12079214)

Your not a Cardinal fan, correct?

I have no baseball team. I monitored the Royals World Series run, but only because folks here were interested. I could take no joy from it.

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Originally Posted by TimBone (Post 12079216)

I have no baseball team. I monitored the Royals World Series run, but only because folks here were interested. I could take no joy from it.

So you are the first poster we ban from our thread then?:D

Either my choice wins the hottie celeb thread, or the hammer falls on you.:harumph:

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 12079217)

So you are the first poster we ban from our thread then?:D

Either my choice wins the hottie celeb thread, or the hammer falls on you.:harumph:

lol....well then, I hope your favorite is either Kate Beckinsale or Scarlett Johansson.

I'll bow out of y'all thread though, as to not derail it.

Good luck to the Cardinals this year, you guys.

They're the Yankees of the National league. Rooting for them is boring lol

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Originally Posted by smellypitts (Post 12079219)

They're the Yankees of the National league. Rooting for them is boring lol

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BRC your team has some stiff competition from your rival north of them.

Cubbies on paper have the best team in National league, the Cards are getting old maybe the injury bug won't plague your team like last year.

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Originally Posted by Fairplay (Post 12079436)

On paper, they are the better team. But, it always seems like the Cardinals play better with a chip on their shoulder, being the underdogs/

We won 100 games but our pitching ran out of gas. We have a healthy Waino. He might not be a #1 anymore but he is still pretty damn good. Martinez has filthy, could win a Cy Young stuff. He and Wacha should make it to 200 innings and remain strong this year. If they perform up to their potential, they can be as good as anyone's staff in the playoffs.

I thought they moved to LA

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 12080405)

The starting pitching depth is a concern for both teams. Which of the aging once staff aces will regress the most, Lester, Lackey or Waino? Will the young arms on the Cards fall prey to more injuries (Wacha and Martinez).

The Cubs are definitely loaded with prospects that produced either well for most of the year last year or for good parts of the season. For the Cards, I think a key could be if Wong is serious about taking the reins at lead off. A .321 OBP is not ideal for a lead guy, but his first half splits were much better until he seemed to tail off swinging for fences the last half of the year. If he can get on base closer to the .350 he had earlier in the year, it would allow us to drop Carp down to a number 3 slot. I know that is where Holliday has resided recently, but at this point in their careers I would rather have Holliday at 2 and Carpenter at 3. Holliday can draw as many walks as he wants at 2, plus he is decent at situational hitting. Some combination of Grichuk/Adams/Moss/Peralta/Piscotty can hit 4-7 and sorry Yadi, but you are now the number 8 unless you find the fountain of youth.

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Originally Posted by VAChief (Post 12082614)

The starting pitching depth is a concern for both teams. Which of the aging once staff aces will regress the most, Lester, Lackey or Waino? Will the young arms on the Cards fall prey to more injuries (Wacha and Martinez).

The Cubs are definitely loaded with prospects that produced either well for most of the year last year or for good parts of the season. For the Cards, I think a key could be if Wong is serious about taking the reins at lead off. A .321 OBP is not ideal for a lead guy, but his first half splits were much better until he seemed to tail off swinging for fences the last half of the year. If he can get on base closer to the .350 he had earlier in the year, it would allow us to drop Carp down to a number 3 slot. I know that is where Holliday has resided recently, but at this point in their careeMors I would rather have Holliday at 2 and Carpenter at 3. Holliday can draw as many walks as he wants at 2, plus he is decent at situational hitting. Some combination of Grichuk/Adams/Moss/Peralta/Piscotty can hit 4-7 and sorry Yadi, but you are now the number 8 unless you find the fountain of youth.

What about this? Won't happen in a Matheny lineup. But still
Wong
Piscotty
Carp
Holliday
Peralta
Grichuk
Adams/Moss
Molina
Pitcher

Will probably be
Carp
Piscotty
Holliday
Peralta
Grichuk
Molina
Adams
Wong
Pitcher

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 12082719)

What about this? Won't happen in a Matheny lineup. But still
Wong
Piscotty
Carp
Holliday
Peralta
Grichuk
Adams/Moss
Molina
Pitcher

I don't think Holliday has the power numbers you'd want in the 4 spot anymore.

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 12082721)

I don't think Holliday has the power numbers you'd want in the 4 spot anymore.

The only real power we have is Grichuk. You want to stick him in there with his swing and miss ratio? It's not just the swing and miss ratio that every team tolerates with a home run hitter, its that he swings at pitches way out of the strike zone. Can you say rally killer?

He can still learn to be more selective with pitches. He is an everyday player. I am high on him. Just don't know if he and the team are ready to put him in the #4 slot.