The one thing we can look forward to: the league's best OL.
 

Last year, PFF gave the Chiefs the 12th best line.

That's even with Albert missing games, Ryan Lilja playing center, Jeff Allen playing poorly, and Stephenson having to play left tackle for five games.

12th best line.

Now, the Chiefs are better. If you're a fan of the trenches, and I know most of us on this site are not, but I unapologetically am:

Albert's healthy. Hudson's back. Allen's getting competition from Geoff Schwartz, and we're replacing Winston with Eric ****ing Fisher.

LT: Albert
LG: Allen/Schwartz
C: Hudson
RG: Asamoah
RT: Fisher

Here are last year's top 5 OLs:

1st: 49ers

LT: Joe Staley
LG: Mike Iupati
C: Jonathan Goodwin
RG: Alex Boone
RT: Anthony Davis

2nd: Patriots

LT: Nate Solder
LG: Logan Mankins
C: Ryan Wendell
RG: Dan Connelly
RT: Sebastian Vollmer

3rd: Jets

LT: D'Brickashaw Ferguson
LG: Willie Colon
C: Nick Mangold
RG: Matt Slausen
RT: Austin Howard

4th: Broncos

LT: Ryan Clady
LG: Zane Beadles
C: JD Walton
RG: Louis Vasquez
RT: Orlando Franklin

5th: Cleveland Browns

LT: Joe Thomas
LG: Jason Pinkston
C: Alex Mack
RG: Shaun Lauvao
RT: Mitchell Schwartz

I think we can make a run at this group in 2013.

TRUE FAN GIF

3 of the top 5 have something in common.......

Please. Teach us all how to be so cool.

I see what you're getting at (and agree, for the most part), but I'm not sure that this is the data set you should be using to try and make that point. Three out of five isn't that convincing.

So are we shooting to replace the jets or the browns?

FWIW, I used to be a huge O-line homer as well, back in the Roaf days.

Elite QB's can mask some O-Line deficiencies. That's pretty much it.

Can't wait for "the best line in the league" to give up 40 sacks thanks to Alex Myth.

Not to mention we will have a blocking TE and a new Fullback to block. Our running game should lead the NFL again.

and 2 of the 5 don't


dam close to 50/50 for all the bitching that goes on about it

We should definitly have a top 10 oline this year. But a good oline won't make a qb look that much better as we saw with Cassell. Granted its Cassell but still...

yeah, the Chiefs have won their superbowl...BEST OL EVAR

I also like the fact we have a backup plan for center. Still cannot believe we had NO plan if Hudson sucked or got hurt.

I guess it should not surprise me since we never had a plan B at QB either

I am hoping that the combination of good Coaching/Oline/Running game will though.


I think next year Reid will make a more focused attempt at drafting a QB.


Unless Bray or Smith really surprise

Eric Fisher hasn't proven shit. He may be absolute garbage for all we know.
No point in grading lines yet.

, and we're replacing Winston with Eric ****ing Fisher.

How do we now Fisher will be an upgrade? Pure garbage speculation.

It's the view of basically everybody in the NFL that Fisher should be better.

Fisher is a mother****ing stud, people. You can get on the train early, or you can throw a fit.

It will be nice to see our offense operating in space as opposed to trying to ram it up the guard's ass over and over again. Hudson will be a monster as a pulling center, imo.

Wait for it....

http://i.imgur.com/xIQATuF.gif

Did Allen really play that poorly? Or are the same people who say that the same ones who thought Geno Smith was going top 5 in the draft? Some of the same people who said Sanchex had the "it" factor? I'm not saying he played well but the talent evaluators around here just aren't that good.

That gif should be the header for this page.

Damn you. Damn you to hell.

Too Sweeeet

I love your enthusiasm but none of those teams drafted a LT in the first round and none of them made the playoffs. You cannot go to the Super Bowl with a LT and RT that were drafted in the 1st round.

I like your optimism Direckshun but I think we have a lot to prove. Hudson and Fisher haven't proven anything yet and Asamoah is decent.

However, Hudson and Fisher were very good prospects with a ton of upside. On paper we look solid, but we all saw what that thinking can do when we looked good "on paper" this time last year.

And we Dave Kreig, Jr as our quarterback.

Unless you happen to be the Ravens and 49ers....

McKinnie: pick 7
Oher: pick 23

Staley: pick 28
Davis: pick 7

Has to be one of the youngest lines doesnt it?

Everyone said the same thing when we signed Winston.

DON'T FORGET OUR NEW FBs AND TE!

I like fisher, but "basically everybody in the NFL" means less than crap. Ryan Leaf, Robert Gallery, russell wilson, kapernick, etc. etc. etc.

Hell, "basically everybody" expected us to win the AFC west before the season last year.

I want to be excited about our O-line, but 2 of the 5 teams with the best O-lines were garbage and the worst team in the league, us, had a line in the top 3rd. Doesn't inspire much confidence in the need for a beastly offensive line, even before we know that a beastly offensive line is indeed what we have.

Plus we have Tommie Draheim now, hes our new amish center.

Hell yeah! Road grading Oline, wood laying D, those super cold, wide mouth aluminum Coors Light bottles in the lot. Do this.

Total ownage.

How do you know they are super cold? Are the mountains blue?

They are pink.

Yeah but what ****ing good team picks a tackle from the MAC?!?! Or Central ****ing Michigan??!!!!

yEAH! wHAT TEAM WOULD HAVE A ****ING FULLBACK!!


aND WHO NEEDS GOOD TIGHT ENDS!?!

So much butthurt.

The Niners have 3 first round picks on their line. They can flat maul you, and Mike Solari is coaching them up. Tough to beat that combo.

if Cassel had a moving force field, he still would have sucked ass

3 and outs must be great for O-line grades.

Despite how "boring" the pick is, the game STILL starts in the trenches. If your line is getting pushed around like a bunch of b******, then you're not doing squat in the postseason.

which is complete nonsense

Rodgers and Eli have both won with trash OLs....

Peyton's OL looked like shit the moment he wasn't behind center

Rothlessburger has routinely got the shit beat out of him and won

good QBs routinely make OLs look better than they are, and good OLs with shit QBs accomplish nothing

but we've got to believe OL is the most important thing....because we're Chiefs fans

no one advocated drafting a RT with the #1 pick at the end of the season - literally no one - and everyone claiming to like it now is a ****ing liar

And once again...You're a ******* moron.

Man, I can't wait for the season to start !

Again for the thirtieth ****ing time!

Let's not forget the way the Raiders DL has raped our OL the last few years. It sucks ass, we used to dominate those assholes. It used to be a given that we beat the Raiders twice a year.

Is that going to stop this season?

Hopefully Fisher will start to put an end to that shit.

A good OL is essential to playing winning football with Alex Smith at the helm. Reid knows this team will have to play good D, run the **** out of the football and limit Smith's throws to win games consistently.

kc's oline should be very good this coming season, top 5.

Riggght. You could have a point. If the Giants didnt draft oline in the first round this year, if the Packers dont draft o line, or d line every year first round.

In the past three years, the packers have drafted Derrick Sherrod, and Bryan Bulaga first round. So uh, yeah,

Unfortunately yes, It will stop. The Raiders will be picking #1 overall and Johnny Football will be destroying the AFCW for the next 15 years.

You seem like... a dumb guy.

So you want the Raiders DL to continue to rape our OL?

Bryan Bulaga was a rookie on that Super Bowl team. The only reason he got a chance to play was because Mark Tauscher was sent to IR by Game 5, and even then Bulaga struggled at RT.

Otherwise the highest draft pick spent on that offensive line was Chad Clifton, a former 2nd rounder who was as old as Methuselah by that point.

Lol limit Smith's throws to win consistently? Have you followed football lately? How good this team will be will be determined in great part by how well Alex smith plays, simple as that.

god you are ****ing stupid

Eli manning won a superbowl with an abomination of an OL, and the worst running game in the league

pretty much the same for Rodgers

maybe actually watching football, as opposed to being an Alex Smith fanboi would help you out?

when we have a franchise QB, then we can draft OL, punter, hot dog vendor, I don't give a shit...until then, drafting a RT at #1 is a sick ****ing joke

QBs make OLs...not the other way around...

Here's something else we can look forward to...

REAL OFFENSIVE AND DEFENSIVE COORDINATORS

It is my opinion that all last year was just as much the fault of the offensive coordinator as Cassel.

Cassell eats giant dick, but yeah, he wasn't helped by the play calling.

If he stays healthy, JC will push for 2k this year behind this line and Fasano...

Charlie Weis is a badass play caller BTW. I wish he'd stick to what he does best, which is coordinating an offense, in lieu of trying to be a shitty college head coach.

First trolling by a frog. Sweet. LMAO

Our defensive coordinator is a big bag of nothing.

now, try to make sense of this. Bryan Bulaga, was drafted as the Left Tackle of the future, and then they drafted DERRICK SHERROD IN THE FIRST ROUND.....Or did you miss that part? So that would make your lame attempt to own me with your chad clifton garbage?

And as far as FRANCHISE QBS go, i dont know, but when a head coach, says, WE ARE GOING TO GET ALEX SMITH INTO THE HALL OF FAME, that makes one think that your head coach is either dumb as shit, or truly believes at the very least you have a franchise qb. Your choice boss.....

and you know this how?

owning dumbass n00bs ... it's a talent

Thanks, Todd!!

Well, look at his career.

It's not rocket science, homer.

how am i a homer, commenting on a former jets defensive coach? lol

All im saying is that you have to give the guy a chance to run his own scheme before you bang on him.

when you invest

2 first round picks
2 second round picks
2 third round picks

i hope ****ing so you have the best line in the NFL, because it's pathetic if you dont. But hey that's the Chiefs, wasting high picks on shitty players

in 6 picks we passed on a lot of good talent over the years for this oline.

Just. Wait. For. Charles. BEAST MODE.

Gonna be fun to watch. With Reid, I expect some insane screen passes involving Jamaal Charles. I'm talking, 40-50+ yarders multiple times during the year.

id pretty much rather any of the players picked after any of these oline ****s we drafted.

Instead of Albert could have had Flacco
instead of Asamoah could have Navarro Bowman, Jimmy Graham, Emmanuel Sanders, etc
instead of Hudson could have had Randall Cobb, Torrey Smith
instead of Jeff Allen could have had Kendell Reyes, Bobby Wagner, Zach Brown, Mychael Kendricks, ****ing anybody really
instead of Donald Stephenson could have had Russel ****ing Wilson
instead of Eric Fisher could have had... anyone worth a shit

you couldnt **** these picks up more really

dont counter with hindsight, for every one of these o-lineman there have been more really good players picked right after all them than shitty, and even then its like 60-70% chance a good player than a crappy one with the players picked after them in the same round. I'd take that chance if it lands me a good QB, WR, LB, DL player over an OL any day of the week, and in this case, it proves it for ALL OF THEM

the point stands, we missed out on a lot of good players that could have impacted this franchise a hell of a lot more than any of these o-lineman ever can or will.

When is the last time we had an offense that could even run a screen properly?


must of been Vermeil ... that's pretty sad.

how in the hell did you get off my iggy list?


welp ......

So saying Geno should go top 5 makes one a bad talent evaluator? Many highly respected guys in the business stated they'd be shocked if he didn't go top 5. Add to that shortly after Geno's pro day, Mayock said based solely on talent, Geno is a top 10 prospect.

We now know there were off the field factors that are likely responsible for his fall.

Get a clue.

Kurt Warner was in love with the guy at the combine. It's pretty obvious lack of tangibles was not the reason for slipping.

Panties bunch much? They also said he wasn't ready to start which is almost a contradiction. Normally a top 10 QB is a starter from the get go. Those guys were talking out of both sides of their mouths. I don't really want to discuss Geno anymore and I hope Allen steps up his game and makes things really competitive.

Screw Geno!

Sweet Christ this is pathetically sad.
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I remember this can't miss LT named Gallery that was just an average guard and is not even in the league 10 years after his drafting.

Wait wait wait... the next thing your gonna tell me is that all of those teams drafted a LT in the first round. You really got me....