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2bikemike 01-11-2018 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13354500)
So you wanted the Chiefs to go FULL Martyball, when Kareem Hunt was getting shut down.

ROFL

If the Chiefs had just caught passes, or if Alex had made ONE throw at the end of the game, or if Butker had made his FG they probably would have won.

So, so, so not Andy Reid's fault.

You forgot the part about if the Defense would have made just one frigging stop in the 2nd Half!

Shag 01-11-2018 04:24 PM

These two crucial 3rd down plays really exemplify why Smith is what he is. In both cases, simply step up into the pocket, keep your eyes downfield, and you likely convert both times. So frustrating. Mahomes looks like he will excel at exactly this.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">6th play (3rd and 13). Note the routes. Fisher isn&#39;t great, but Alex HAS to step up and survey here. Instead, he bails and gets caught. Wilson (middle of field) is 1st down there if Alex just waits. But sure, tell me more about playcalling. <a href="https://t.co/D8Hmvh1Fzf">pic.twitter.com/D8Hmvh1Fzf</a></p>&mdash; Seth Keysor (@RealMNchiefsfan) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealMNchiefsfan/status/950590512704184325?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 9, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Play 20: 3rd and 9. Coverage is decent. Would need to hit Hill on the out right out of his break to beat the S OR get some mustard on it. Easier throw to Hunt on an in (bottom of screen) to get close to the maker. Alex completely loses his presence vs zero real pressure. <a href="https://t.co/uYG9zQSghy">pic.twitter.com/uYG9zQSghy</a></p>&mdash; Seth Keysor (@RealMNchiefsfan) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealMNchiefsfan/status/950825874294702080?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 9, 2018</a></blockquote>
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TimBone 01-11-2018 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by crayzkirk (Post 13354252)
I think we forget that these are people, Hill had just suffered a family loss, Kelce got targeted and Jones injured. Once the Tightens started mounting a comeback, it turned into a perfect storm that included fluke plays, bad decisions and from what I could tell, poor effort.



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There is no way that's an autocorrect. Wtf happened there, bro?

Mama Hip Rockets 01-11-2018 06:08 PM

The best running back in the NFL had 11 carries in the whole game, despite the fact, that the Chiefs had a double-digit lead for almost the entire game. That's poor playcalling.

Hammock Parties 01-11-2018 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by thurman merman (Post 13354937)
The best running back in the NFL had 11 carries in the whole game, despite the fact, that the Chiefs had a double-digit lead for almost the entire game. That's poor playcalling.

The best RB in the NFL was getting shut down.

He had a 16-yard run and averaged 2.6 YPC on the other 10.

crayzkirk 01-11-2018 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TimBone (Post 13354909)
There is no way that's an autocorrect. Wtf happened there, bro?

Intentional misspelling of Titans. From Megamind movie. Seemed appropriate. Makes the Chiefs failure seem a bit less disheartening.

Mama Hip Rockets 01-11-2018 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13354939)
The best RB in the NFL was getting shut down.

He had a 16-yard run and averaged 2.6 YPC on the other 10.

I wouldn't call 3.8 YPC "shut down." Plus, it's not all about YPC. It's about running out clock, keeping your defense off the field, grinding out tough yards, and wearing the other defense out. Throwing three straight short passes/incompletions when you're up by two or three scores does nothing but open up the floodgates for a comeback.

hitchief 01-11-2018 06:16 PM

once again with the all22.

Any douche can go thru a game and find plays were even Brady screws up or Rodgers. Its just plain stupid to be looking at the plays from above when the players on the field don't see it that way. Don't know why some of you idiots don't get that. They don't have a helmet cam that shows everything like that and does this guy tell us what the progression was? Got to know that cause every play has a progression, which most don't also seem to understand, so even if a wr breaks open he may not bee seen due to the progression. This is basic stuff but not in this place.

Hammock Parties 01-11-2018 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by thurman merman (Post 13354950)
I wouldn't call 3.8 YPC "shut down." Plus, it's not all about YPC. It's about running out clock, keeping your defense off the field, grinding out tough yards, and wearing the other defense out. Throwing three straight short passes/incompletions when you're up by two or three scores does nothing but open up the floodgates for a comeback.

Andy Reid didn't tell Smith to check it down, dude. Nor did he drop the passes.

I can't BELIEVE there are people on here advocating for Martyball. Reid is damned no matter what he does.

JENKINSWINS 01-11-2018 06:21 PM

Yet Brees won because his defense was able to stop the dynamic Cam Newton who didn’t even give their offense a chance to make a game winning play by taking a sack. Sorry this has no validity. Brady lost to Eli how many times? Rodgers had a chance to get his team into the playoffs and choked.

Hammock Parties 01-11-2018 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by hitchief (Post 13354960)
even if a wr breaks open he may not bee seen due to the progression.

This isn't going through a progression.

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This is even less progressive.

https://i.imgur.com/Fnbmi5z.gif

That's a bunch of ****ing bullshit that loses playoff games.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-11-2018 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by hitchief (Post 13354960)
once again with the all22.

Any douche can go thru a game and find plays were even Brady screws up or Rodgers. Its just plain stupid to be looking at the plays from above when the players on the field don't see it that way. Don't know why some of you idiots don't get that. They don't have a helmet cam that shows everything like that and does this guy tell us what the progression was? Got to know that cause every play has a progression, which most don't also seem to understand, so even if a wr breaks open he may not bee seen due to the progression. This is basic stuff but not in this place.

That's stupid as ****. It should easier to see some of those guys open from where Smith is. Harris and Wilson both flashed in front of his face. As the QB, surely to God he knows what the routes are before the play happens. You should be able to anticipate those openings.

The guy decided to try to scramble for yards, which he failed at, as opposed to giving one of his receivers a chance to make a play. Hell, not even that. Just a simple catch.

And DO NOT give me some bullshit response about how they might drop the pass. If they do, then ok, that's their fault. But it's the QBs job to give them the chance.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-11-2018 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JENKINSWINS (Post 13354968)
Yet Brees won because his defense was able to stop the dynamic Cam Newton who didn’t even give their offense a chance to make a game winning play by taking a sack. Sorry this has no validity. Brady lost to Eli how many times? Rodgers had a chance to get his team into the playoffs and choked.

Do you think the Saints even have that lead if not for Drew Brees making tons of plays throughout the game? LMAO

Hammock Parties 01-11-2018 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JENKINSWINS (Post 13354968)
Yet Brees won because his defense was able to stop the dynamic Cam Newton

The Panthers scored more points than the Titans.

Brees put up 31, including 10 in the second half, and threw for more yards on the opening drive of the third quarter than Smith did the entire second half.

Please stop, you're embarrassing yourself.

JENKINSWINS 01-11-2018 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13354985)
Do you think the Saints even have that lead if not for Drew Brees making tons of plays throughout the game? LMAO

He also threw an int that gave them a chance to lose the game but his defense stepped up in the final seconds. Do the Titans have to make a comeback if it wasn’t for Smith making plays?


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