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Hammock Parties 12-10-2012 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 9197215)
It isn't the Hunts fault. The people the Hunts hired to do their jobs did their jobs terribly. /Clayton

LMAO

Pioli is definitely Clark's fault.

Herm/Carl are not.

htismaqe 12-10-2012 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 9197250)
How long should I wait Parker.

<iframe width="640" height="480" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/OQ4VRgxBbHc" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

From 1994 to 2007 - 13 of the 18 years we've been waiting - were under someone other than Clark Hunt...

Hammock Parties 12-10-2012 04:24 PM

Clark already said he wanted to build via the draft and develop our own QB.

He gets it.

He just needs to find the right guy to execute it.

|Zach| 12-10-2012 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9197271)
Pioli is definitely Clark's fault.

Herm/Carl are not.

ahem

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 9197195)
There is only one common denominator with all of this losing we have done and it is the Hunt family.


|Zach| 12-10-2012 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9197275)
From 1994 to 2007 - 13 of the 18 years we've been waiting - were under someone other than Clark Hunt...

That is when things really got embarrassing. Can I work under you? Sounds like you are pretty understanding and cool about people being given jobs and failing at them.

|Zach| 12-10-2012 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9197276)
Clark already said he wanted to build via the draft and develop our own QB.

He gets it.

He just needs to find the right guy to execute it.

And Carl had a 5 year plan!

Whatever.

BossChief 12-10-2012 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 9197239)
They had the best offense in the whole league for a while...

Of course they couldn't have that without having the worst defense at the same time. Another failure.

Add a quarterback like Smith or Wilson and get the best coaches we can to develop the kid and that fixes the offense for a long time.

Especially with this OL (that is all young) and the other pieces.

The problem with trades/signings like Trent is the window doesn't leave a lot of room for error on the other side of the ball and our defense was far from ready at the time.

We get a guy that can give us a 8-15 year window and it's on.

Goldmember 12-10-2012 04:28 PM

Rome was built faster

ModSocks 12-10-2012 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 9197194)
There is no reason this team shouldn't be a lot more competitive than it is. This is caused by a screwed up environment within the team. Yeah, they need a QB, but let's not pretend the talent level isn't up to snuff in most other aspects of the team. They're just mailing it in.

This right here.

We're just a few months removed from being the favorite to win the division. Talking heads were rattling on and on about how talented this team looked.

That talent didn't just disappear.

You know what happened? Crennel and Dabbol happened.

They created a team of underachievers.

Hammock Parties 12-10-2012 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 9197282)
And Carl had a 5 year plan!

Whatever.

Facts are facts.

Carl and Herm are not on Clark. He took care of that.

Pioli was a giant ****up.

We'll see if Clark has any hiring sense in a couple months.

If not, he's a problem and someone else needs to be in control.

Iowanian 12-10-2012 04:29 PM

I'm not scared, but if this offseason doesn't give me reason to hope....I'll cancel Sunday ticket and officially be apathetic.

They're close to ruining football for me and I'll find better things to do. I can hunt most sundays of the NFL Season.

HemiEd 12-10-2012 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9197240)
It was his FIRST HIRE. He made a mistake.

When he finally admits that mistake, and does something about it, then I will have renewed optimism.

htismaqe 12-10-2012 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 9197281)
That is when things really got embarrassing. Can I work under you? Sounds like you are pretty understanding and cool about people being given jobs and failing at them.

ROFL

Stop being a drama queen.

1) I'm not going to condemn Clark for the failings of the guys he DID NOT HIRE.

2) Clark gets a BIG black mark for hiring Pioli. That means he takes the blame from 2009 on. Not 1990-whatever on.

3) Clark is the owner. He's not an employee. He can't be fired. If you're THAT bent out of shape about the ownership of the team, move on.

|Zach| 12-10-2012 04:32 PM

It isn't just on the field. This organization is tone deaf and bad in other phases as well. They had a photographer that worked for them for forty ****ing years and screwed him over the first chance they got when Lamar passed.

This turned into a huge court case.


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A photographer who worked for the Kansas City Chiefs for 40 years is complaining that the team misused his images. Hank Young says the Chiefs violated his agreement with the team's public-relations department when it used his photographs to enliven the concourses, entrances and other areas of the new Arrowhead Stadium.

Young's work with the Chiefs began in 1972, the year that Arrowhead opened. According to a lawsuit filed in federal court, Young was an independent contractor who "retained the right to permit or refuse the use of any photographs for non-editorial purposes."



Young granted the Chiefs access to his archives during the renovation, which included the construction of a hall of fame. Young says he was led to believe that his photographs were going to be used in the hall of fame in a way that was consistent with the license agreement.

Later, Young says, the Chiefs attempted to "coerce" him into signing over the rights to his photographs. The team gave Young a deadline of July 23, 2010, the day the press took a tour of the new Arrowhead.

Young, who lives in Fairway, took the tour. He says his images "permeate" the stadium. He estimates that he took at least half of the photographs that are used in artwork on walls, columns and banners.

As Young sees it, the displays violate the terms of his agreement because the images draw attention to concession stands and serve sponsorship deals. A photograph of the offensive line that Young took in 2004, for instance, is featured an a banner that stretches across a gate that Sprint sponsors.

Young alleges that he got a cold response when he went to the front office to talk about the way his images were being used:
Shortly after he learned that the Chiefs had made his artwork a central design aspect of New Arrowhead, Mr. Young requested a meeting with Mark Donovan, who is currently President of the Kansas City Chiefs. At the meeting, Mr. Donovan refused to even discuss the unauthorized use of Mr. Young's Photographs and told Mr. Young that he could not pursue a request for compensation for the use of his Photographs and continue as a game day photographer. Consequently, Mr. Young's forty-year relationship with the Kansas City Chiefs came to end.
In addition to the Chiefs, Young names as defendants the architecture and design firms that worked on the stadium renovations, as well as team sponsors Sprint, Time Warner and Hy-Vee.

The Chiefs declined comment. A spokesman says team officials are aware of Young's claim but have not had a chance to review the file.

http://www.pitch.com/plog/archives/2...his-game-shots

Failing on the field...screwing over local business partners they have worked with for decades...being assholes to fans...

|Zach| 12-10-2012 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9197297)
If you're THAT bent out of shape about the ownership of the team, move on.

Jesus christ that sucks...

I pretty much though.


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