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I'm replacing (or attempting to replace) a faucet in my kids' bathroom. I'm attempting to attach the new supply line but this is what the connection is like. I can't unscrew it, how am I supposed to connect a new line to this?http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...df1ff01ab1.jpg

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So you have a copper pipe in the wall to a valve you cannot use.


My thought for an easy fix is to shut your water off, cut a hole into the wall so you can reach a good segment of copper. Cut it off and install a "shark bite" fitting/valve and attach your new line to that.

That's the easiest solution.

Cutting holes in walls is not easy for me. I'm seriously inhibited in terms of anything to do with home repair stuff. I replaced our kitchen sink because the valve from the wall was previously connected to the old faucet with a bolt that I could unscrew and replace with another one from the new supply line. This valve appears to me at least to be incompatible with a new supply line. I know nothing about the pipe in the wall.

I'm seriously not stupid in real life, but I'm inept around the house.

I think it's time to sell your house.

If it is over your head, recruit a buddy to help. This isn't a tough fix for any handy person.

You can buy a simple dry wall hand saw or use a box cutter to cut out the drywall. You'll need a pipe cutter to zip off the wall behind the fitting. Polish it a little with an emery cloth and slide the shark bite fitting/valve over the copper. Then screw your new supply line on and to sink. Turn on water.

Find a friend to help or pay a capable handy man and save yourself the water damage.


I'll wager there are 10 videos on youtube that will demonstrate the process for you.

Pay for my airfare and I'll come over and do it for you.

Cut it off use a compression fitting to attach to another piece that you can patch in to the new shit. Solder the **** out of it

At least we could talk Royals while I go broke.

I seriously appreciate the help, but am helpless. God, how frustrating.

Dart is probably going to need a helper and I have some vacation to use.....

1. Call plumber
2. Prepare for anal raping

Sweet! Maybe we could have a CP Bash in So Cal.

I'll host, you guys fix all the nagging stuff that I haven't.

Pay for my airfare, and I'll act as a consultant to compliment someone who knows what they're doing.

On the "most likely to rape you" rankings, plumbers are way worse than lawyers, mechanics, used car lot owners, and rapists.

Do you live in a RV?

It's too blurry to be sure, but that looks like a threaded fitting at the wall. If that's the case, shut off the water and spin that contraption of a valve off and replace it with a valve with a normal thread fitting on the hose side. Attach the hose, secure both sides, and turn the water and then valve on.

You and your assumed female companion should both start dating men.

I screwed up one of those recently. Shut off valve broke, tried removing it, and ended up kinking the copper line under the house. None of my friends and I could fit around the duct under the house to fix it. Called a plumber, told him to bring a tiny guy, and he did. Two hours and $280 later, the copper line was replaced.

LMAO

No, I live in a two-story house. This is the upstairs bathroom.

Yeah, I think I get it now. Unlike the kitchen faucet where I was able to easily re-attach the new supply line to the existing stop-valve, I'm going to have to replace the stop valve at the wall.

I'm told a lot of 80's porn begins this way. Let me guess, you have a moving truck and need to run to Lowes in the next town over....and by Lowes, I mean the closet to work the camera....

Might as well fix this up while we're there.

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It's all but leaking at the wall connection anyways. Just don't **** up that wall fitting or the odds of the plumber plumbing your, still assumed female, significant other increases drastically when you're forced to have him come clean up your mess.

I've never seen a shutoff valve with flex permanently attached to it, wtf kind of shit is that?

Ha, pretty much word for word what I was about to respond with.

Thats what I think. The calcification is due most likely to 2 different types metals. Behind the wall is most likely copper and that appears to be an Galvanized iron fitting through the wall to a copper and chrome valve. Very likely leaking at valve and copper pipe behind wall where iron pipe threads in. You need to open that wall up to see whats behind and what kind of water damage if any. Get 2 pipe wrenches one to keep minimal movement the copper line the other for steady counter clockwise pressure on the iron nipple. It will break loose. Sometimes the nipple breaks off if its really old and rusted then its a bitch. Steady pressure and even. Take old nipple to hardware store get new maybe a bit longer and new shut off valve, pipe thread tape or putty replace get new flexable service line and your gold.

You can't unscrew the valve and then pull the nut off?

??

The nut that's there is probably held on by a compression ring


That whole valve body should unscrew out of that nut.

Then you can try to screw in a new style valve body with a 3/8 compression outlet

Or

If it leaks , pull the nut off with a compression nut puller

I bet its the hot water side isn't it? Its always the one to FU first if it is corroded bad do the other side regardless if its having problems now or not. It will be soon to follow. You dont want that bursting because it always happens when your out town. Next thing you know you have a water remediation crew there for the next week or two. You think a plumber will rape ya think again.

Maybe but I would want to know whats going on with that nipple on other side the wall. Just the way my Dad taught me you fix the bigger problem instead of put a band aid on it. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Can hear him saying it now.

If the drywall is not soft why would there be a problem behind t he wall?

Take some Clorox and see if it's just a surface stain.

I've seen much worse...it doesn't look like a leak imo

Besides , you need to pull the valve off anyway.

If you're really curious you can pull the compression nut & scussion off .

If it's a pin hole leak you should be able to hear it.....

I highly doubt it's a leak. Just change the angle stop to a 3/8 comp., and get a new 3/8 x 1/2 supply line.

Done

no galvinized there, it is a compression stop. eastman speedflex prolly, used to be really popular. not sure where you can find the threaded cone washers that would thread on the flex now but they prolly are available. if the copper is solidly supported in the wall you can usually take the stop off and work the comp nut and ring off, shine up the copper with good sand cloth, and have a new stop on in about 30 minutes. cutting wall is last resort because to do it right you patch the wall. exercise some patience and do both in about an hour, don't know what plumbers cost out there but not thinking it's a terribly expensive fix.

Are you talking about the corrugated copper vertical service line? I may have misunderstood. It looks soldered to shutoff fitting and needs sweated off. Or remove at stem or nipple and replace all as it looks threaded to stem.

I can post a pic of the best nut/ring puller in the world if you want.

Will have that nut off quick

http://www.amazon.com/Pasco-4661-Com...on+ring+puller


Once u unscrew the valve from the nut, that puller is the best thing since sliced bread to pull the nut &ring off the pipe without hassle

that's the way they were made, packaged, and sold. could get them in rough brass or chrome. wouldn't mess with it. the pics blurry but it is a compression fitting, prolly been seeping a little.

pawnmowwer has the right idea, just take it apart and pull the nut and sleeve and get a new stop on there.

Bad advice for a novice.

You're right. I looked at some coupons for a local plumber and his "specials" are generally 20-30 pct higher than my everyday prices.

Wow. the number of comments telling you to open the wall -- NO. Don't.

If the valve is working fine (not leaking, shuts off when you close it) you should be able to attach it to the new faucet at the faucet. i.e. up at the top of that flexible hose you should be able to thread/screw the old fitting into the bottom of the new faucet.

Now, the new faucet pipe might be a different size from the old one. You can buy adapters.

Otherwise, you all need to remove the shutoff valve from the wall and put in a new one that matches your line from the new faucet. Looks like you have 1/2" copper pipe coming out of the wall and this is a compression fitting / valve. More pics of each piece would help.

Can you get a couple of better pictures. High Def please. This could be a simple fix.

You'll need to Un sweat the valve to get it off. Get a new compression stop and a new lav supply. If you don't understand any of this, call a plumber who will fix it in a few minutes. It'll cost you, but it's better than flooding your house

no need to break out a torch unless you go nuts and break it off behind the wall. new stops should not set you back more than $11 apiece, prolly less than that, 3/8x1/2 sst flexes $7-10 or so. you should be able to pull off nut and ring with little trouble. usually they only won't come off is if it is rolled copper which is highly unlikely in this case.

if you have any doubt call a plumber, surely there is a reputable company in your area that doesn't flat rate you to death. my guess would be it would be no more than a 2 hr job if you had them throw on the faucet while they were there.

If you call a plumber over there is only 2 possible outcomes

Porn or murder

A unseen 3rd outcome might happen and you might get your plumbing fixed and he leaves

that's really insulting to thousands of professionals who truly care about their work and the customers they serve.

Call the 400 pound plumber.

Won't he need a torch to melt the solder that is holding the old stop in place? Or am I imagining the glob of solder I think I see on the old stop in the pic?

I see it too.

Call Bill Cosby -- he knows quite a bit about pipes, plumbing, hose (did I spell that right?), and holes. Plus you'd get a free dose of drugs and I'm sure you'll enjoy his type of rape more than the kind you'd get from a regular ol' plumber.

Ok, so I went to Home Depot today and got the valves for each sink...and on the way home heard a commercial for a plumber and decided to ask my neighbor for help. I'll buy him beer, and all will win.

I think the prospect of damaging the pipe from the wall was too much for me, honestly.

How is a joke insulting..if they get upset about that they need to take off their dresses and get back to work over pricing their customers they care so deeply about

Saw and pexs.

Pex makes life easy.

You forgot dentists. Biggest rapists of all.

some people take things way too seriously

No...that's just crud. (At least I think so....I've seen a lot of crud LOL)

The old angle stop is threaded into the nut that's closest to the wall.

The nut is held on by a compression ring called a ferrule...

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Pulling the ring&nut off without messing up the pipe can be a pain...but its superior to cutting it off...

And if you know how , and have the right puller...its super easy usually.

Exactly

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-gv_f1dhsrc

Until you have a toothache.

Are you trying to say escutcheon?

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Scussion plate is how I pronounce it...and how every plumber I've heard pronounce it...


But yes, that's the same thing.

I guess its synonymous or slang....
An escutcheon ring, plate ....etc

But I say 'scussion'

I'm not a great speller

Let's not go overboard.
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Is that Kim kardashians new photo

I actually did it.

I sent some better pictures over to a friend who assured me they weren't soldered into the pipe, and managed to pull all 4 off and replace them with 1/4 turn angle valves. The only thing I didn't replace was the stopper mechanism, but it's running well with absolutely no leaks and a very happy wife.

Thanks for the suggestions and confidence!

You stud

Good job man