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the Talking Can 12-18-2012 12:27 PM

are we there yet?

dirk digler 12-18-2012 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9221009)
I don't agree at all. CEOs with what you're calling "absolute power" run large organizations all over our country. It's the standard organizational model. IMO, it's a lot better to have one person in charge than it is to expect two to work together without one being able to have the final say. Ideally, the person in charge will be good at accepting input and forming consensus within the leadership of the organization but someone has to make the final decision. It can be the GM or the HC, but someone has to be the final say unless the owner is willing to referee disagreements.

I don't know who it was that said that Carl and Marty were peers, but that wasn't the case. Carl was the boss for most of their time together. Marty was reportedly given greater control over personnel at the end, but it's not clear to me what the arrangement was and it certainly didn't improve the product on the field.

Yep. Carl had pretty much total power and the way Clark wants to run the team he is going to hire another GM and give them total power. I honestly don't see that changing.

dirk digler 12-18-2012 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9221205)
I think that has a little more to do with who's taking the snap, than who's giving it.

Somewhat.

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9221214)
Albert, Hudson, Asamoah and Winston are all excellent pass blockers.

Stephenson, Allen, and Lilja have not been this year, and weren't Sunday.

I will take your word for it.

htismaqe 12-18-2012 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 9221175)
I think what you are wanting is a GM who will let the coach coach.

I want a GM who is going to allow the coach to have SIGNIFICANT input into personnel decisions and actually consider that input when it comes to player acquisition.

Buehler445 12-18-2012 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9221259)
I want a GM who is going to allow the coach to have SIGNIFICANT input into personnel decisions and actually consider that input when it comes to player acquisition.

Right. And if a GM doesn't do that, he's a bad GM. That doesn't necessarily mean Clark should force the GM and coach to structurally be peers. The GM can still have "absolute power" as you say, meaning he makes the decisions and is actually the boss over the coach. If he disregards what the coach says, he's a shit GM.

Look at it this way. Pioli is a shit GM. If Clark came in and structurally changed things to where they were peers, he'd still be a shit GM. The problem is we have a shit GM, not because the structure is bad.

Hammock Parties 12-18-2012 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 9221237)
Somewhat.



I will take your word for it.

Dude, just watch any of the games before Hudson got hurt.

This line has been fine for two years from a pass blocking standpoint outside guys like Richardson, and Lilja/Wiegmann getting raped by Oakland.

The QBs make them look at a lot worse.

DeezNutz 12-18-2012 01:39 PM

We must go HC first because we cannot allow a dipshit GM to force talent that isn't good enough or doesn't fit a system onto the coaching the staff.

Buehler445 12-18-2012 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9221463)
We must go HC first because we cannot allow a dipshit GM to force talent that isn't good enough or doesn't fit a system onto the coaching the staff.

In my eyes, the key remains to hire a good GM. If he does all the things you're suggesting, he's a shit GM. He wil continue to make shit GM personnel decisions that will hurt the team. We need to avoid getting a shit GM. And let the Non-shit GM go find a good coach.

O.city 12-18-2012 11:11 PM

I'm starting to think it's gonna be a fairly big name guy, Clark will have to pay, but I think he wants to win 1a but bring the fans back in full force 1b.

Titty Meat 12-19-2012 01:35 AM

Yeah it's going to be Bill Polian. LaCanFora is hardly ever wrong.

mdchiefsfan 12-19-2012 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9221293)
Dude, just watch any of the games before Hudson got hurt.

This line has been fine for two years from a pass blocking standpoint outside guys like Richardson, and Lilja/Wiegmann getting raped by Oakland.

The QBs make them look at a lot worse.

I haven't read this whole thread so I'm not sure if this was mentioned, but even Winston made mention of how much harder Cassel made it for the tackles by not stepping up in the pocket.

AussieChiefsFan 12-19-2012 04:49 AM

Some people will probably be wearing back off their own merit this sunday, but is the Blackout officially continuing?

ILChief 12-19-2012 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9223110)
Yeah it's going to be Bill Polian. LaCanFora is hardly ever wrong.

I just hope he wouldn't hire Jim Caldwell as coach

007 12-19-2012 06:16 AM

I want to see another GM whose last name starts with a P about as much as I want to see another USC QB.

mdchiefsfan 12-19-2012 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 9223190)
I want to see another GM whose last name starts with a P about as much as I want to see another USC QB.

LMAO


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