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Kellerfox 04-02-2022 11:17 AM

Getting some work in today in my Tacoma Trash Pandas spreadsheet (clearing out lost FAs, adding new signings, and figuring out what draft picks I’ll have later this month). I REALLY don’t want to accept the Tyreek trade but feel I have to given how many holes my roster currently has. I need the picks to fill a 53 man roster. I think I projected my picks correctly, but let me know if my logic is wrong Rain/Crow.

https://i.ibb.co/0MknfD8/841-E3275-F...C43-F97275.jpg

Tacoma Trash Panda 2022 Draft Picks

Draft pick related transactions
  • Rejected the Melvin Ingram trade during the season by way of not responding to it (Keep #6 - 208)
  • Accept the Tyreek Hill Trade (Acquire #1 - 29, #2 - 50, #4 - 121, plus a 4th and 6th next year)
  • Previously accepted Mike Hughes trade (Swap #6 - 191 via Baltimore from accepted OBJ trade for Vikings #7 - 233)
  • Did not have Yasir Durant on my roster - can’t accept trade to Patriots (lose #7 - 243)

Owned Draft Picks

#1 - 29 (via Hill trade)
#1 - 30 (Chiefs)
#2 - 50 (via Hill trade)
#2 - 62 (Chiefs)
#3 - 94 (Chiefs)
#3 - 103 (Chiefs - comp)
#4 - 121 (via Hill trade)
#4 - 135 (Chiefs)
#6 - 208 (Chiefs - kept by not trading for Melvin Ingram)
#7 - 233 (via Hughes trade)
#7 - 251 (Chiefs)
#7 - 259 (Chiefs - comp)

Rain Man 04-02-2022 11:11 PM

Here's what I see on the draft possibilities. Do we match?

1st round (29th overall) - You get this only if Tyreek is on your current offer AND you accept the trade.

1st round (30th overall)

2nd round (50th overall) - You get this only if Tyreek is on your current offer AND you accept the trade.

2nd round (62nd overall)

3rd round (94th overall)

3rd round (103rd overall)

4th round (121st overall) - You get this only if Tyreek is on your current offer AND you accept the trade.

4th round (135th overall)

5th round (173rd overall) - You get this only if you rejected the Orlando Brown, Jr., trade last year and don't have him on your roster.

6th round (191st overall) - You get this pick only if you approved the Orlando Brown, Jr., trade and have him on your roster AND you rejected the Mike Hughes trade and didn't add him to your roster.

6th round (209th overall) - You get this unless you approve the Melvin Ingram trade and add him to your training camp roster.

7th round (234th overall) - You get this only if you accepted the Mike Hughes trade and added him to your training camp roster.

7th round (244th overall) - You get this only if you had Yasir Durant on your final roster and accept the trade to the patriots.

7th round (252nd overall)

7th round (260th overall)

Rain Man 04-02-2022 11:16 PM

Ingram wasn't released, right? So if he leaves as a free agent we can't keep him on our teams. If he was actually released we can opt to keep him on the bet that he'll sign somewhere else or come back at some point.

Kellerfox 04-02-2022 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 16229934)
Here's what I see on the draft possibilities. Do we match?

1st round (29th overall) - You get this only if Tyreek is on your current offer AND you accept the trade.

1st round (30th overall)

2nd round (50th overall) - You get this only if Tyreek is on your current offer AND you accept the trade.

2nd round (62nd overall)

3rd round (94th overall)

3rd round (103rd overall)

4th round (121st overall) - You get this only if Tyreek is on your current offer AND you accept the trade.

4th round (135th overall)

5th round (173rd overall) - You get this only if you rejected the Orlando Brown, Jr., trade last year and don't have him on your roster.

6th round (191st overall) - You get this pick only if you approved the Orlando Brown, Jr., trade and have him on your roster AND you rejected the Mike Hughes trade and didn't add him to your roster.

6th round (209th overall) - You get this unless you approve the Melvin Ingram trade and add him to your training camp roster.

7th round (234th overall) - You get this only if you accepted the Mike Hughes trade and added him to your training camp roster.

7th round (244th overall) - You get this only if you had Yasir Durant on your final roster and accept the trade to the patriots.

7th round (252nd overall)

7th round (260th overall)

We seem to be out of sync by 1 spot for each pick in the 6th round or later. Iíve see your numbers listed a few places and mine listed a few places. No idea whatís going on or which is right.

I was pulling from here: https://www.nfl.com/news/2022-nfl-dr...l-seven-rounds

Rain Man 04-02-2022 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kellerfox (Post 16229948)
We seem to be out of sync by 1 spot for each pick in the 6th round or later. Iíve see your numbers listed a few places and mine listed a few places. No idea whatís going on or which is right.

I was pulling from here: https://www.nfl.com/news/2022-nfl-dr...l-seven-rounds

Yeah, I was curious about that. I had pulled mine from here: https://arrowheadaddict.com/2022/03/...022-nfl-draft/

I know that sometimes draft picks alternate with tiebreakers, so we'll just sort that out when the draft comes.

I won't have the bevy of picks that the real Chiefs get. I should see how I drafted instead of Tyreek in 2016.

kccrow 04-03-2022 02:47 PM

The only issue I see is how we handle this:

Quote:

6th round (191st overall) - You get this pick only if you approved the Orlando Brown, Jr., trade and have him on your roster AND you rejected the Mike Hughes trade and didn't add him to your roster.

6th round (209th overall) - You get this unless you approve the Melvin Ingram trade and add him to your training camp roster.

7th round (234th overall) - You get this only if you accepted the Mike Hughes trade and added him to your training camp roster.
When the trade for Hughes was made, we didn't then know which 6th round pick it would be. For me, I made the trade for Hughes but not the trade for OBJ and that was with the assumption that it would be the Chiefs' 6th and not the one acquired from Baltimore. I didn't accept the Melvin Ingram trade though. For me, it's kind of easy to rectify, just lose 209, gain 234 and I never get 191 and it all evens out. Not sure if anyone else tried to do both Hughes and Ingram and not OBJ though?

Edit:

And the 7th's should be 233 (Hughes trade), 243 (Durant trade), 251, and 259 (comp).

kccrow 04-03-2022 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 16229938)
Ingram wasn't released, right? So if he leaves as a free agent we can't keep him on our teams. If he was actually released we can opt to keep him on the bet that he'll sign somewhere else or come back at some point.

Ingram's contract expired, he's gone unless re-signed.

kccrow 04-03-2022 03:10 PM

I "think" this is a comprehensive free agent listing... let me know if it needs editing.

Free Agents Released (You can keep if you want)
LB - Anthony Hitchens

Free Agents Re-Signed (You can keep if you had them)
FB - Michael Burton
TE - Blake Bell
WR - Daurice Fountain
OT - Andrew Wylie
CB - DeAndre Baker
LS - James Winchester
DT - Derrick Nnadi
WR - Josh Gordon

Free Agents Lost (You lose unless re-signed - Expired Contracts)
RB - Jerick McKinnon
OG - Laurent Duvernay-Tardif
DB - Tyrann Mathieu
LB - Melvin Ingram
RB - Darrel Williams
OT - Mike Remmers
LB - Ben Niemann
OL - Kyle Long
DE - Alex Okafor
WR - Marcus Kemp
LB - Dorian O'Daniel
CB - Chris Lammons
DB - Armani Watts

Free Agents Lost (You lose, signed elsewhere)
DL - Jarran Reed (signed w/ GB)
CB - Mike Hughes (signed w/ DET)
CB - Charvarious Ward (signed w/ SF)
WR - Byron Pringle (signed w/ CHI)
OL - Austin Blythe (signed w/ SEA)
DB - Daniel Sorensen (signed w/ NO)
WR - Demarcus Robinson (signed w/ LV)

Free Agents Added (You can add)
DB - Justin Reid
WR - Marquez Valdes-Scantling
WR - JuJu Smith-Schuster
DB - Deon Bush
OT - Geron Christian
OC - Austin Reiter
OL - Roderick Johnson
DT - Taylor Stallworth
LB - Jermaine Carter
LB - Elijah Lee
CB - Luq Barcoo
RB - Ronald Jones II
WR - Justin Watson
WR - Corey Coleman

Likely Camp Fodder FA Adds (You can add)
WR - Omar Bayless
WR - Gary Jennings
TE - Jordan Franks
TE - Matt Bushman
TE - Josh Pederson
RB - Brenden Knox
DE - Jonathan Woodard
DT - Lorenzo Neal
DT - Darius Stills
CB - Brandin Dandridge

Rain Man 04-03-2022 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16230497)
Ingram's contract expired, he's gone unless re-signed.

Dang, I was hoping to keep him. I have so much trouble finding defensive ends.

Rain Man 04-03-2022 04:16 PM

Thanks for the research, guys.

Here's what I think my picks are.

1-30
2-62
3-94
3-103
4-135
6-191
6-209
7-251
7-259

I can make hay with this.

kccrow 04-08-2022 06:11 AM

My allotment for the year. :D

1st round (30th overall)
2nd round (62nd overall)
3rd round (94th overall)
3rd round (103rd overall)
4th round (135th overall)
5th round (173rd overall)
7th round (233rd overall)
7th round (243rd overall)
7th round (251st overall)
7th round (259th overall)

kccrow 04-08-2022 06:26 AM

Just so you're aware Rainman, this is the full version of the trade chart that PFT references in your link: https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp

I'd think it more beneficial with comp picks being tradeable now and so forth. The NFL doesn't really use this chart anymore, they use something closer to the Rich Hill model linked to on that page or here: https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-V...-Rich-Hill.asp. That said, we've used the Jimmy Johnson one forever so I'm not advocating for change of charts, I'll leave that to you guys.

Rain Man 04-25-2022 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16238187)
Just so you're aware Rainman, this is the full version of the trade chart that PFT references in your link: https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp

I'd think it more beneficial with comp picks being tradeable now and so forth. The NFL doesn't really use this chart anymore, they use something closer to the Rich Hill model linked to on that page or here: https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-V...-Rich-Hill.asp. That said, we've used the Jimmy Johnson one forever so I'm not advocating for change of charts, I'll leave that to you guys.

I'm fine to switch to the first chart you mention. Let's do it.

kccrow 04-30-2022 05:29 PM

I feel like I'm probably going to end up mirroring KC's draft pretty heavily this year. They picked quite a few guys I really like and could really use. Shall be interesting.

Kellerfox 04-30-2022 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16276205)
I feel like I'm probably going to end up mirroring KC's draft pretty heavily this year. They picked quite a few guys I really like and could really use. Shall be interesting.

I did so last year and it paid offÖ and the areas where I didnít, I regretted it.

Iíve started a list of possibilities at each of my picks and itís pretty overwhelming. I have a lot of holes.


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