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BucEyedPea 04-17-2013 05:52 PM

Look at Biden's he's gonna cry.

Obama is still campaigning to prevent Congress from getting more Republicans.

RNR 04-17-2013 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 9596909)
Whole lot of "meh" from me as well. I can see both sides here and in the end it didn't matter one bit if it passed or not. Do nothing bill basically.

I enjoy it whenever these shitbags lose~

Calcountry 04-17-2013 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by WV (Post 9596775)
Hahaha....suck it Joe Manchin. You're going to lose your job for sure now! Failing the libs and pissing off gun owners.

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That doesn't work for me, somebody has to tell SNL, that Obama reads a tele prompter, this cat was looking straight into the camera, Obama NEVER EVER does that, he looks left, pregnant pause for grandeur, then looks right.

BucEyedPea 04-17-2013 05:54 PM

Oh, we're going to keep our passion and send the right people to Congress, Obama. We really are going to get organized to make you a lame duck you incrementalist gun grabber.

BucEyedPea 04-17-2013 05:57 PM

"The emotions we all felt since ...."
Yeah we should pass laws during an emotional period, pass laws when there is hysteria. Not on reason, not on if the new law is effective, but because it feels good.

Calcountry 04-17-2013 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by mlyonsd (Post 9596715)
Don't pretend this is over.

The next mass murder with a firearm and the hand wringers will be back out.

Eventually they will convince a stupid public that it is better to take rights away from law abiding citizens than actually punishing criminals that use guns to commit crime.

Bet ya can't wait.

Calcountry 04-17-2013 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by LiveSteam (Post 9596735)
Omaha to. It pisses me off.

Ever play whack a moonbat?

LiveSteam 04-17-2013 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by Calcountry (Post 9596932)
Ever play whack a moonbat?

Yes. Im good at it to

La literatura 04-17-2013 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by mlyonsd (Post 9596715)
Don't pretend this is over.

The next mass murder with a firearm and the hand wringers will be back out.

Eventually they will convince a stupid public that it is better to take rights away from law abiding citizens than actually punishing criminals that use guns to commit crime.

We do punish criminals that use guns to commit crime.

We should have background checks for guns, ffs.

BucEyedPea 04-17-2013 06:16 PM

Can you imagine how Obama, and the collective left, would have sounded if the SC struck down Obamacare, by calling it a tax and then saying it's an origination clause violation effectively striking it down anyway?

Man, cry me a river. He would have been dissing the SC as being in the hands of the Republicans and more. They already had all their PR people and journalist waiting in the wings for a full-scale attack.

BucEyedPea 04-17-2013 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by La literatura (Post 9596985)
We should have background checks for guns, ffs.

We do.

petegz28 04-17-2013 06:21 PM

I heard part of his speech and turned it off. What a baby.

Frazod 04-17-2013 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9596685)
not surprised it didn't pass ... votes are for sale in washington

NRA has billions behind it

Congress got rich

I'll tell you what - when the day comes that the NRA controls 90% of the American media, gets free lip service from a cadre of anti-gun Hollywood stars (who are of course themselves protected by men with guns), have the soulless **** of an Attorney General and all the DHS goons in their back pockets, are financed by billionaire socialists like Soros and Bloomberg, and can PRINT THEIR OWN ****ING MONEY, then, you can whine about how much people like ME contribute to the NRA.

But until then, go fist yourself.

FD 04-17-2013 06:23 PM

Here's the best rundown of today's voting that I've seen:


What happened with gun amendments today: Everything failed
Posted by Rachel Weiner on April 17, 2013 at 6:58 pm

The Senate voted on seven out of nine pieces of gun legislation Wednesday afternoon. All the amendments required 60 votes to survive Senate procedural moves and ensure final passage, because of the way Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) chose to structure the vote. All seven failed. What happened?

Background checks failed, 54-46: This was the big one, the bipartisan deal between Sens. Joe Manchin (D-W.V.) and Pat Toomey (R-Pa.) to expand the national gun background check system. With 54 senators in support and 46 in opposition, it failed to reach the 60 votes necessary to move forward. That includes Reid changing his vote to ‘no’ so he can bring it back up at a later date, although he is not expected to do so.
Four Democrats opposed the amendment: Max Baucus (Mont.), Mark Begich (Alaska), Heidi Heitkamp (N.D.), and Mark Pryor (Ark.). Four Republicans supported it: Susan Collins (Maine), Mark Kirk (Ill.), John McCain (Ariz.), and Toomey.

Republican gun legislation failed 52-48: The main Republican alternative to gun control, proposed by Sens. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) and Ted Cruz (R-Ariz.) failed with 52 senators in favor and 48 opposed. It would increase funding for criminal prosecution, school safety, and mental health resources and create a task force to go after felons who fail background checks. At the same time the amendment would loosen gun restrictions by making it easier to purchase and carry guns across state lines. The National Rifle Association supported this legislation. Nine Democrats supported it: Baucus, Begich, Joe Donnelly (Ind.), Kay Hagan (D-N.C.), Heitkamp, Mary Landrieu (La.), Claire McCaskill (Mo.), Pryor and Jon Tester (Mont.). Two Republicans, Kirk and Mike Lee (Utah) opposed.

Gun trafficking failed 58-42: This legislation worked out by Sens. Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.) and Susan Collins (R-Maine) targets only gun trafficking. It makes gun trafficking a federal crime and strengthens the penalties against “straw purchasers” (people who buy guns for others who are not legally able to do so). The NRA is on board with this amendment as well, thanks to a compromise ensuring that guns can be bought as gifts or prizes. It failed with 58 votes in favor and 42 against, a bit of a surprise given the bipartisan and NRA support. Collins, Lisa Murkowski (Alaska) and Kirk were the only Republicans in support. No Democrats voted against it.

Expanding concealed-carry failed 57-43: Sen. John Cornyn’s “Constitutional Concealed Carry Act” would give gun owners the right to carry concealed weapons across state lines and into other states that also have concealed-carry laws without obtaining a new license. The Texas Republican argued that Democrats should support this reciprocity because getting a concealed-carry permit is a like a background check “on steroids.” It failed 57 to 43. Baucus, Begich, Donnelly, Hagan, Heinrich, Heitkamp, Landrieu, Manchin, Pryor, Tester, Mark Udall (Colo.), Tom Udall (N.M.), and Mark Warner (Va.) were the 13 Democrats in favor. Kirk was the only Republican opposed.

Assault weapons ban failed 40-60: This is Sen. Dianne Feinstein’s legislation, which we’ve known for weeks has no chance of passage but that Reid promised to bring to a vote. It failed with 40 senators in favor and 60 opposed. Kirk was the only Republican to support the ban. Fifteen Democrats voted against it — Baucus, Begich, Bennet, Donnelly, Hagan, Heinrich, Heitkamp, Tim Johnson (S.D.), Landrieu, Manchin, Pryor, Tester, Udall, Udall and Warner.

Expanding veterans’ gun rights failed 56-44: This amendment from Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.) seeks to change the fact that veterans receiving benefits who are deemed unable to manage their own financial affairs are also barred from owning firearms. Under Burr’s amendment, a court would have to determine that a beneficiary is a danger to him/herself or others. Opponents argue that it would make it easier for mentally ill veterans to obtain firearms. An attempt to make this change failed in last year’s defense bill, and it failed again Wednesday 56 to 44. No Republican voted against it; the eight Democrats who voted for it were Baucus, Begich, Donnelly, Hagan, McCaskill, Landrieu, Pryor, and Tester.

A ban on high-capacity magazines failed 46 to 54: A slimmed-down version of the assault-weapons ban which outlaws only high-capacity ammunition magazines was proposed by Sens. Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.) and Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.). It failed with 46 senators in favor and 54 opposed. High-capacity magazines were part of the original Assault Weapons Ban, which expired in 2004. Kirk was the only Republican to vote for it. Ten Democrats voted against it: Baucus, Begich, Donnelly, Hagan, Heitkamp, Landrieu, Manchin, Pryor, Tester, and Warner.

Frazod 04-17-2013 06:24 PM

And to all the gungrabbers

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