At what point did Casserly say, "I think Geno Smith is Akili Smith because I'm a ****ing idiot who doesn't back up my worthless opinions?"

Those are only ever the people who got called racists in the Geno Smith thread. Because they ****ing are.

Also, if you're going to put your eggs in the Casserly basket, you're too stupid to be any assistance. Casserly was Pioli before Pioli was Pioli.

I was talking about his breakdown of the specific points. And that's not just Casserly. As I pointed out earlier, McShay has also backed up some of the points. There seems to be a pretty close consensus on his on-field stuff and a significant split on his off-field and character stuff. Calling it racism is just stupidity.

As for your comment regarding being called racist: from AlexSmithDynasty, earlier in this thread:

On Sportscenter earlier McShay only knocked Geno for his emotions. Everything else he said wasn't accurate according to 10 scouts he had spoken to. When a guy talks shit on you with 15+ different points and then someone says they only heard one or two of those things were true from a few of their 10 sources, it seems that the original report wants to besmirch Geno Smith. It comes off as a vendetta, when all major news outlets from major ESPN and NFL networks to local sports talk radio use the term scathing, that shows that alot of people don't put alot of truth into the report. Racism? A little bit of a stretch. Coming off as an asshole with an axe to grind? Most definetly.

Incorrect. He acknowledge the on-field issues in passing as well.


It comes off as people with different sources and different interpretations. Responses like yours come off as people who can't think because they let their emotions get in the way. Hell, ESPN's big hang up was that the wording was "harsh", for crying out loud.

I'm not saying the guy's right, but he got a lot right about Newton. Instead of everyone jumping down the man's throat, perhaps some further investigation would be appropriate. Casserly seems to have done it, and he's found some similar reports.

I think Geno falls somewhere in between the two extremes of opinion.

I think the Dolphins would've taken him at #8 instead of Tannehill.

Seems like you're on a mission to stand up for the report. If I don't agree with the report as you do, I'm a person who can't think because my emotions get in the way. Some of the on-field issues have been discussed many times before: people have said many times that he has an inability to read defenses quickly. Everyone has seen the pinstripe bowl reactions and how he fell apart against college's better defenses. You're not bringing any new information to the argument. We've discussed this, and you're hanging onto a few bits of information out of a massive scathing review.

You make up your own opinion obviously, and that's fine, but all your response was is the same drivel you've spouted for multiple posts. We get it, you agree with PFW's report of Geno over the many other reports out there. I choose to see it differently, but you can keep calling people names and saying they can't think, when if that's the best insult you have for my responses, you come off as the person who can't think. Next time just call someone a stupidhead and walk away like the immature child you come off as. You're a broken record like Blackmon is a broken record about the Chiefs taking Joeckel and how Pen*whatever the heck his name is* is pro Geno no matter what. It's boring, find some new material, then give us a reason why we should care about your responses based on intelligence, not just "You can't think, your emtions get in the way.!"

Casserly is a terrible terrible person. This is why he's not even with any NFL franchises. He made the Houston Texans extremely mediocre and theres a reason he's been out of work for awhile. NFL network and ESPN collect these guys, call them experts, put them in front of a camera and let them talk till they get their point across. Herm did it when he was fired and Scott Pioli is doing it now. I don't even know how the hell Lombardi got a job again, but since it's with the Browns I understand it.

Not at all.

I neither said, nor intended, any such interpretation of my words. It has nothing to do with agreement or disagreement. You tried to build a case around the word "scathing", for crying out loud.

I didn't claim to be bringing in any new information, other than pointing out what Casserly and McShay have said.

So, bottom line, you're a Geno fan and you can't accept that someone criticized him, so you're taking it out on me when I wasn't discussing Smith's talents, and you assume I agree with reports because I've noted that those reports weren't just from one person, even when I've noted that there's a significant split on some of the reports. Got it.

You're an idiot. Congratulations.

Not really.

Casserly was more in-depth with his reasoning and formed his opinion in a way of questioning certain aspects of Geno Smith, which I believe is legitimate and perfectly fine (outside of his grades, as we really won't know unless someone decides to steal and post his transcript).

Nawrocki wrote his evaluation to completely belittle and dismiss Geno Smith as a prospect and came across as unprofessional and bigoted.

I swear I wish everyone typed the name Geno on this website that this smiley would come up :whackit:

What are you talking about? It's pretty clear you didn't even read the report.

Completely belittling and bigoted! :rolleyes:

Just some follow up:

On NFL Live last night, McShay spoke about it some more. He acknowledged hearing things like those that Nawrocki was pointing out, and his area of complete disagreement was about the work effort. Mortensen agreed with McShay about the work effort aspect, and said that he felt Nawrocki was over the top with the way he worded things.

So, listening to the various analysts, what we may well have here is a guy (Nawrocki) who got it all/mostly/largely right, but was out of date with the work effort stuff (might have been right earlier in Smith's college career), and was harsh enough in his wording that sports shows desperate for something to talk about were able to use him to fill up the airwaves.

Like I said the same guy who did a hit piece last yr on RGIII:rolleyes:

Negatives: Has short arms and average grip strength (student manager was fired for deflating balls). Does not snap it quickly and spiral is not tight. Heavy-footed and cannot improvise or create with his feet. Cannot easily manipulate his arm and throwing platform under duress and the ball dies when he can’t step into it. Does not drive the ball down the field with high RPMs. Not quick-eyed — many throws are pre-determined at the line, and he will hold the ball too long on some progressions. Can be streaky (see Washington).

Matt Barkley = Matt Cassel