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ct 05-01-2013 10:21 AM

Chiefs trade (Arenas) for...wait for it...a FB?
 
Chiefs acquired FB Anthony Sherman from the Chiefs...er Cardinals.
New Cards head coach Bruce Arians has no room for plodding fullbacks in his aggressive, vertical offense. So Sherman heads to Andy Reid's West Coast scheme as Jamaal Charles' lead blocker. The 2011 fifth-rounder graded out 20th among 25 qualifying fullbacks in Pro Football Focus' rankings last season. May 1 - 12:11 PM

WTF?

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/...nthony-sherman

loochy 05-01-2013 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ct (Post 9648487)
Chiefs acquired FB Anthony Sherman from the Chiefs.
New Cards head coach Bruce Arians has no room for plodding fullbacks in his aggressive, vertical offense. So Sherman heads to Andy Reid's West Coast scheme as Jamaal Charles' lead blocker. The 2011 fifth-rounder graded out 20th among 25 qualifying fullbacks in Pro Football Focus' rankings last season. May 1 - 12:11 PM

WTF?


Awesome. We acquired a FB from ourselves. That should cost us nothing, right?

ct 05-01-2013 10:23 AM

LOL, didn't even see they typo on rotoworld. acquired from arizona

LiL stumppy 05-01-2013 10:24 AM

We are so cool we trade with ourselves

Easy 6 05-01-2013 10:24 AM

Welp, theres certainly no shortage of fullbacks on the roster... who will be the Chiefs Jon Ritchie?

ChiefGator 05-01-2013 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 9648490)
Awesome. We acquired a FB from ourselves. That should cost us nothing, right?

We exchanged several draft picks with ourselves for him.

Chiefspants 05-01-2013 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiL stumppy (Post 9648495)
We are so cool we trade with ourselves

And still somehow lost picks in the deal.

Fish 05-01-2013 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 9648490)
Awesome. We acquired a FB from ourselves. That should cost us nothing, right?

Knowing the Chiefs, they likely still had to give up a draft pick....

threebag 05-01-2013 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiL stumppy (Post 9648495)
We are so cool we trade with ourselves

And still got ****ed

SPchief 05-01-2013 10:27 AM

This place is gonna explode when they found out we gave up a 2nd for him

ILChief 05-01-2013 10:27 AM

According to PFF, he's the Branden Albert of fullbacks

In58men 05-01-2013 10:28 AM

You don't make a SuperBowl team through full backs lol.

loochy 05-01-2013 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9648512)
You don't make a SuperBowl team through full backs lol.

The Chiefs don't make a Superbowl team through anything, so why not have more fullbacks to help them to an 8-8 record?

Mr. Laz 05-01-2013 10:30 AM

"STs Captain in just his 2nd year"

Iowanian 05-01-2013 10:30 AM

Isn't that 5 Full backs on the roster?

Must be running the double wishbone

Mr. Laz 05-01-2013 10:31 AM

better not be more than a 6th

siberian khatru 05-01-2013 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fish (Post 9648500)
Knowing the Chiefs, they likely still had to give up a draft pick....

Meh, we'll just trade Albert to recoup it/ chiefsmath

mcaj22 05-01-2013 10:34 AM

LOL christ

chiefzilla1501 05-01-2013 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9648512)
You don't make a SuperBowl team through full backs lol.

Andy Reid loves fullback and runningout of I formation. ASurprising seeing how he doesn't run the ball much. Leonard weaver was a pro bowler under his watch.

I don't know anything about this guy. But iI doubt anyone on the roster last year will be competing for a roster spot at fullback. I bet it's Braden Wilson's job to lose. He is basically the same player as Owen Schmitt, who I believe played about 20 percent of snaps for the iggles last year.

RealSNR 05-01-2013 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9648519)
"STs Captain in just his 2nd year"

There ya go.

If this player is a request from Dave Toub, I have no problem with it provided it wasn't anything more than a 6th rounder. I'm putting my trust in that guy. He's a ****ing genius when it comes to special teams.

ILChief 05-01-2013 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9648542)
There ya go.

If this player is a request from Dave Toub, I have no problem with it provided it wasn't anything more than a 6th rounder. I'm putting my trust in that guy. He's a ****ing genius when it comes to special teams.

Good point. Could be a ST move

chiefzilla1501 05-01-2013 10:36 AM

Also can we change the thread title. It doesn't sound like this was a trade

silver5liter 05-01-2013 10:36 AM

Rumor is that we may have given them Javier arenas. Wtf

mcaj22 05-01-2013 10:37 AM

LOL IF WE GAVE THEM JAVIER ARENAS I WILL ****ING PISS

ChiefaRoo 05-01-2013 10:38 AM

Two Tight End sets. Two Fullbacks with Charles in a Power wing formation. Hut hut, ball is snapped..handed to Jamal.. right up Hudsons ass for a gain of 2.2yds.

RealSNR 05-01-2013 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silver5liter (Post 9648550)
Rumor is that we may have given them Javier arenas. Wtf

THAT is too goddamn expensive :banghead:

ptlyon 05-01-2013 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9648551)
LOL IF WE GAVE THEM JAVIER ARENAS I WILL ****ING PISS

So will the Arrowhead announcer

mcaj22 05-01-2013 10:40 AM

that's gotta be a joke. i refuse to believe that

gblowfish 05-01-2013 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefaRoo (Post 9648555)
Two Tight End sets. Two Fullbacks with Charles in a Power wing formation. Hut hut, ball is snapped..handed to Jamal.. right up Hudsons ass for a gain of 2.2yds.

We could have used that on first and goal VS. Baltimore last year....

ILChief 05-01-2013 10:40 AM

Wait, I thought CP hated Arenas

HemiEd 05-01-2013 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 9648520)
Isn't that 5 Full backs on the roster?

Must be running the double wishbone

Marv Levy approves of this.

-King- 05-01-2013 10:41 AM

Seriously?
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ChiefaRoo 05-01-2013 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 9648562)
We could have used that on first and goal VS. Baltimore last year....

I don't remember. I just deleted last year from my memory. It never happened.

HemiEd 05-01-2013 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by silver5liter (Post 9648550)
Rumor is that we may have given them Javier arenas. Wtf

Well wasn't he a second round pick? It makes perfect sense!

tk13 05-01-2013 10:43 AM

Anything more than a 1st and a 3rd and I will turn against Reid and Dorsey.
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Buehler445 05-01-2013 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 9648564)
Wait, I thought CP hated Arenas

I don't. He's OK at nickel. And the fact remains that we have a whole lot of not a damn thing at CB.

RealSNR 05-01-2013 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 9648564)
Wait, I thought CP hated Arenas

As a starting CB, and also as a player that we drafted in the 2nd round when some really incredible talent was still available.

But since we got him on the roster, he serves a purpose as CB depth, which is way more valuable than having ANOTHER goddamn FB on this freakin' roster.

Mr. Laz 05-01-2013 10:45 AM

it better be Jalil Brown, not Arenas.

mcaj22 05-01-2013 10:45 AM

uhh when he slid into CB2 last year for Stanford Routt he played a lot ****ing better than what all you Stanford Routt homers expected out of Routt himself.

he's just slow and cant return kicks or punts

Direckshun 05-01-2013 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silver5liter (Post 9648550)
Rumor is that we may have given them Javier arenas. Wtf

I will flip my ****ing shit.

Direckshun 05-01-2013 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9648586)
uhh when he slid into CB2 last year for Stanford Routt he played a lot ****ing better than what all you Stanford Routt homers expected out of Routt himself.

he's just slow and cant return kicks or punts

Arenas is actually a Top 10 punt returner, is he not?

And you're dead-right about him excelling as a starting corner last year.

chiefzilla1501 05-01-2013 10:47 AM

Don't really care about trading for a fullback and special teams ace. A better fit for Reid than Braden Wilson, who can block but can't catch or run.

But if true, it makes the Braden Wilson pick in the 6th a complete waste.

Mr. Laz 05-01-2013 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9648586)
uhh when he slid into CB2 last year for Stanford Routt he played a lot ****ing better than what all you Stanford Routt homers expected out of Routt himself.

he's just slow and cant return kicks or punts

he's not terrible at returns ... he's just not going to break one for 40.

He'll get you the 15 or whatever


our blocking on ST sucked ass

hometeam 05-01-2013 10:50 AM

FB for decent Nickel? Par for the course.

the Talking Can 05-01-2013 10:51 AM

the team that couldn't manage to trade a starting LT has traded for a fb?


i'll assume this is a joke

The Franchise 05-01-2013 10:53 AM

Please tell me we didn't give up Arenas.

ct 05-01-2013 10:57 AM

@caplannfl: Chiefs HC Andy Reid uses a FB in his version of the WCO. Sherman was a fifth-round pick in 2011. (cont) http://t.co/hq9qJdiCIv

Seriously mystified here...

Mother****erJones 05-01-2013 10:57 AM

Arenas sucks. We can find someone as good for depth.

The Franchise 05-01-2013 10:58 AM

We will have traded Tony Gonzales for a FB. Awesome.

mcaj22 05-01-2013 10:58 AM

Arenas is worth way more than some slapdick FB

AndChiefs 05-01-2013 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9648625)
Arenas is worth way more than some slapdick FB

FB plus pick perhaps?

-King- 05-01-2013 11:03 AM

In a passing league we trade a corner for a fullback. Great.
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ct 05-01-2013 11:04 AM

caplann does say rumor cards asking for a CB, and perhaps arenas. well, perhaps its menzie, cause zona does NOT need a return man, and just drafted honey bitch to groom as NB. or maybe we get something back in return? trying to make this not so WTF in my head right now.

morphius 05-01-2013 11:04 AM

I'd be pretty shocked if it is anything other than a conditional draft pick.

The Franchise 05-01-2013 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ct (Post 9648636)
caplann does say rumor cards asking for a CB, and perhaps arenas. well, perhaps its menzie, cause zona does NOT need a return man, and just drafted honey bitch to groom as NB. or maybe we get something back in return? trying to make this not so WTF in my head right now.

Honey bitch is playing FS.

mcaj22 05-01-2013 11:04 AM

i hope to god its that smelly turd Jalil Brown

-King- 05-01-2013 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 9648589)
Arenas is actually a Top 10 punt returner, is he not?

And you're dead-right about him excelling as a starting corner last year.

Yes. He was top 5 even I think. Always gets good yards on punt returns.
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GoChargers 05-01-2013 11:06 AM

Ouch. Bad trade no matter what you gave up because there's no way you need five fullbacks on your roster, especially when so many teams have stopped carrying fullbacks at all.

Easy 6 05-01-2013 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9648625)
Arenas is worth way more than some slapdick FB

.

chiefzilla1501 05-01-2013 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9648625)
Arenas is worth way more than some slapdick FB

I like arenas, but now we have flowers, Sean smith, Dunta, Daniels, Commings, and menzie. Some may compete at safety. Arenas is fairly expendable. Don't know who returns kicks but am confident toub weighed in on this.

-King- 05-01-2013 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9648650)
I like arenas, but now we have flowers, Sean smith, Dunta, Daniels, Commings, and menzie. Some may compete at safety. Arenas is fairly expendable. Don't know who returns kicks but am confident toub weighed in on this.

In a passing league would you rather have an abundance of CBs or FBs?
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mcaj22 05-01-2013 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9648650)
I like arenas, but now we have flowers, Sean smith, Dunta, Daniels, Commings, and menzie. Some may compete at safety. Arenas is fairly expendable. Don't know who returns kicks but am confident toub weighed in on this.

Arenas maybe expendable but you dont give him away for a ****ING FB. Especially when you already bringing 4 FBs into camp and just wasted a 6th round pick on one in the draft lol

BigCatDaddy 05-01-2013 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9648650)
I like arenas, but now we have flowers, Sean smith, Dunta, Daniels, Commings, and menzie. Some may compete at safety. Arenas is fairly expendable. Don't know who returns kicks but am confident toub weighed in on this.

Just because you have a surplus doesn't mean you give shit away. How are you related to Reid or Dorsey?

WhawhaWhat 05-01-2013 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9648655)
Arenas maybe expendable but you dont give him away for a ****ING FB. Especially when you already bringing 4 FBs into camp and just wasted a 6th round pick on one in the draft lol

So if they just released him instead, you would have been happier?

silver5liter 05-01-2013 11:14 AM

I dont care how much you hate arenas. Hes a decent return guy and actually made some strides towards the end of last year. I just dont see the value in flipping him for a FB if this is true.

Kylo Ren 05-01-2013 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ct (Post 9648487)
Chiefs acquired FB Anthony Sherman from the Chiefs.
New Cards head coach Bruce Arians has no room for plodding fullbacks in his aggressive, vertical offense. So Sherman heads to Andy Reid's West Coast scheme as Jamaal Charles' lead blocker. The 2011 fifth-rounder graded out 20th among 25 qualifying fullbacks in Pro Football Focus' rankings last season. May 1 - 12:11 PM

WTF?

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/...nthony-sherman

This answers everything......

Chiefs | Anthony Sherman acquired
Wed, 01 May 2013 09:34:00 -0700
The Kansas City Chiefs acquired FB Anthony Sherman from the Arizona Cardinals for an undisclosed package.
<HR style="WIDTH: auto">
Chiefs | Expected to acquire Anthony Sherman

Wed, 01 May 2013 09:17:09 -0700
The Kansas City Chiefs are expected to trade for Arizona Cardinals FB Anthony Sherman.

.........an undisclosed "package"! What could that be? I hope it's no more than a box of donuts!<!--Comment () | -->

BigCatDaddy 05-01-2013 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 9648661)
So if they just released him instead, you would have been happier?

I HIGHLY doubt that was the only other option, but nice straw man.

The Franchise 05-01-2013 11:18 AM

Maybe they traded Albert. :facepalm:

Mr. Laz 05-01-2013 11:20 AM

Arenas was overdrafted ... he should have been a 5th round pick instead of a 2nd.

but now that he is on the team he brings value to the roster.

Hard-nosed football guy
low maintenance
no drama
relatively cheap
solid coverage guy as long as you don't put him on a burner
solid return guy who can get the consistent yards even though he won't break long ones much
imo he can probably play ANY position in the secondary in a pinch
can step in to block the gunner or whatever else you need

solid rank and file type guy ... don't know why we would flush him away instead of jalil brown etc


hopefully rumors are wrong because this would be the 2nd trade that Dorsey got ****ed in the short time since he's been a Chief.

Just Passin' By 05-01-2013 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John_Wayne (Post 9648665)
...
.........an undisclosed "package"! What could that be? I hope it's no more than a box of donuts!<!--Comment () | -->

Maybe it's for one of the NHL cupcake promotional packages

http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?id=HA.209473176104&pid=15.1

nychief 05-01-2013 11:23 AM

hmmm.... can't imagine we'd jettison Arenas at this point in the off season, unless he is injured. But, nothing surprises me.

Odd we JUST drafted a battering ram, only to pick up another one.

Fritz88 05-01-2013 11:23 AM

Expecting that we overpaid and got raped in this trade.
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BigCatDaddy 05-01-2013 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nychief (Post 9648683)
hmmm.... can't imagine we'd jettison Arenas at this point in the off season, unless he is injured. But, nothing surprises me.

Odd we JUST drafted a battering ram, only to pick up another one.

You can never have enough depth at FB.

Mr. Laz 05-01-2013 11:26 AM

OMAR EASY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Molitoth 05-01-2013 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 9648686)
Expecting that we overpaid and got raped in this trade.
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Chiefs fans will justify it.

ChiefsCountry 05-01-2013 11:27 AM

I really don't get the Arenas and Brown hate. They are what they are. Arenas can be a serviceable nickel and Brown is pretty good gunner on special teams. Pioli is the dipshit you made them get on the field for defense, that's where the hate should go.

nychief 05-01-2013 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 9648695)
Chiefs fans will justify it.

oh **** off, would you?

Cannibal 05-01-2013 11:28 AM

Wish we could get Kimble Anders reicarnate.

Molitoth 05-01-2013 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nychief (Post 9648699)
oh **** off, would you?

No need to be rude, just stating the truth.

ptlyon 05-01-2013 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannibal (Post 9648700)
Wish we could get Kimble Anders reicarnate.

WTF you talkin bout, Tony Richardson!


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