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The Franchise 02-23-2013 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9428401)
Eifert looked damn good. Not only were the results strong, but he made it look easy. The shadow-cam of him and Ertz both running the 40 was interesting, Eifert looked like he was cruising as he was pulling away while Ertz appeared to be struggling for the time. It just made Eifert look like a much more natural athlete.

I think he locked up a pick in the early 20s. Ertz looked solid, but I don't think he's a 'value' pick at 34 so I'd probably go with a DB still at that pick.

The Giants will probably take3 Eifert in the 1st.

DJ's left nut 02-23-2013 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9428408)
The Giants will probably take3 Eifert in the 1st.

He'd be a very good pick for them. With the space that Cruz and Nicks are able to create underneath, Eifert could do a ton of damage for them. And he's capable of playing a complete TE, not just the Aaron Hernandez sort. He's not a great blocker by any means, but a credible enough one.

DJ's left nut 02-23-2013 01:51 PM

Eifert just had a chance to make a hell of a snag but couldn't quite pull it in on a corner route.

The QBs are missing this throw like crazy. I know Bray is one of the throwers, as was Vandenberg. In either event, the TEs didn't get many chances to show their form.

htismaqe 02-23-2013 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9428381)
Some of the TE's were impressive. I don't know if any of the better TE's will be around with the #34 (Ertz and Eifert) but if so, I hope that Reid and Dorsey think long and hard about both (or either).

I really, REALLY like Tyler Eifert but I think he'll end up going in the mid 20's.

htismaqe 02-23-2013 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9428498)
Eifert just had a chance to make a hell of a snag but couldn't quite pull it in on a corner route.

The QBs are missing this throw like crazy. I know Bray is one of the throwers, as was Vandenberg. In either event, the TEs didn't get many chances to show their form.

Vandenberg is pretty bad.

Deberg_1990 02-23-2013 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 9428040)
Why am I sitting here watching OL run 40s?

Why does it even matter how fast an O lineman can sprint?

DaneMcCloud 02-23-2013 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9428532)
Why does it even matter how fast an O lineman can sprint?

Explosion and down field blocking. But ultimately, it's just another measurable.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 02-23-2013 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9428341)
I wondered if anyone else noticed that. They were also letting them 'bounce' the bar by rebounding it off their chests.

They were letting guys get away with absolute shit form, and this is from someone that knows nothing more about lifting than what I was taught 15 years ago by a HS football coach.

I have no idea why they haven't moved to 315 or something

BigCatDaddy 02-23-2013 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudy Was Offsides. (Post 9428583)
I have no idea why they haven't moved to 315 or something

For lineman and backers that's not a bad idea.

DJ's left nut 02-23-2013 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9428622)
For lineman and backers that's not a bad idea.

Eh, I disagree. Lower weights are more projectable and frankly, they're a hell of a lot safer. And they create more separation.

I like 225, they just need to make sure these guys aren't cheating their weight up.

htismaqe 02-23-2013 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9428659)
Eh, I disagree. Lower weights are more projectable and frankly, they're a hell of a lot safer. And they create more separation.

I like 225, they just need to make sure these guys aren't cheating their weight up.

A good median, like 225, also shows how these guys can sustain their strength.

They don't push on defensive linemen once and then go to the sideline, they do it over and over and over.

225 is a great place to look at their strength AND their endurance.

DJ's left nut 02-23-2013 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9428720)
A good median, like 225, also shows how these guys can sustain their strength.

They don't push on defensive linemen once and then go to the sideline, they do it over and over and over.

225 is a great place to look at their strength AND their endurance.

Agreed.

I think they got it right at 225.

DeezNutz 02-23-2013 03:37 PM

Mayock believes two guards should go in the top 10-15. lol.

htismaqe 02-23-2013 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9428825)
Mayock believes two guards should go in the top 10-15. lol.

It's semi-hilarious and simultaneously alarming...this offseason, that is.

It's like the collective football world has lost its mind. Has the last couple of seasons of young QBs just sent them all over the nostalgia cliff? It's like it's 1975 all over again.

DeezNutz 02-23-2013 03:40 PM

Taking Shields in the first is one of the best moves Carl ever made, so you have to give credit where it's due.

SAUTO 02-23-2013 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9428839)
Taking Shields in the first is one of the best moves Carl ever made, so you have to give credit where it's due.

taking him top five was so forward thinking...
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htismaqe 02-23-2013 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9428839)
Taking Shields in the first is one of the best moves Carl ever made, so you have to give credit where it's due.

Topping it off by getting Waters in the top 10 was even better...

DeezNutz 02-23-2013 03:43 PM

Is Mayock trying to work his way out of football this offseason? This genuinely makes no sense whatsoever.

saphojunkie 02-23-2013 03:52 PM

It makes sense. I mean David DeCastro was the best guard prospect in 20 years, and he went in the top five last year. It's not Mayock's fault the bar has been set so high.

htismaqe 02-23-2013 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 9428896)
It makes sense. I mean David DeCastro was the best guard prospect in 20 years, and he went in the top five last year. It's not Mayock's fault the bar has been set so high.

ROFL

Hammock Parties 02-23-2013 04:04 PM

Tavon Austin did 14 reps. Not bad for a little guy.

TJ Moe did twenty-****ing-six. :o

Titty Meat 02-23-2013 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 9428896)
It makes sense. I mean David DeCastro was the best guard prospect in 20 years, and he went in the top five last year. It's not Mayock's fault the bar has been set so high.

What?

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 02-23-2013 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9428720)
A good median, like 225, also shows how these guys can sustain their strength.

They don't push on defensive linemen once and then go to the sideline, they do it over and over and over.

225 is a great place to look at their strength AND their endurance.

I've never played on line in the nfl, but there can't be a whole lot of muscle endurance necessary. Football just isn't set up that way.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-23-2013 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9428948)
Tavon Austin did 14 reps. Not bad for a little guy.

TJ Moe did twenty-****ing-six. :o

TJ Moe will, at the very least, be a hell of a ST player. He's got great hands and he's tough as a $2 steak, but he really struggles to get separation. Of course, some of that may also be due to having a RB throw him passes for the last two years. He looked like the next Welker when Gabbert was QB.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-23-2013 06:03 PM

I remember when Mayock's word was gold around here in 2009. The guy has always been a ****ing charlatan, and he always will be.

KCrockaholic 02-23-2013 06:36 PM

What time do the Que Bee's and Rawning Backs, and whyd receivers begin workouts tomorrow?

O.city 02-23-2013 07:05 PM

You know what would be epic and is actually something that could happen? Coming out of the 3rd round with Jarvis Jones and Bacarri Rambo.

Groves 02-23-2013 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudy Was Offsides. (Post 9429247)
I've never played on line in the nfl, but there can't be a whole lot of muscle endurance necessary. Football just isn't set up that way.

Whatever. Linemen never run 40yards sprints either, but it's a good gauge of some helpful things.

Setsuna 02-24-2013 08:12 AM

WRs are up!

Saccopoo 02-24-2013 10:31 AM

Oh hai guys!

Geno - 4.56

RealSNR 02-24-2013 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9428339)

Called it in my mock draft months ago.

Oh for ****'s sake, everybody else is doing it. Why can't I?

Fansy the Famous Bard 02-24-2013 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9431385)
Oh hai guys!

Geno - 4.56

Good lord. :whackit:

DJ's left nut 02-24-2013 12:28 PM

His official time was the exact same as Cam Newton's.

He's as fast as Cam, he's a better passer than Cam and he's a better citizen than the computer thief.

Yet he's not a worthwhile #1 overall pick...yeah right.

cabletech94 02-24-2013 12:30 PM

for those of you who have it, geno smith coming up on nfln.

interviewing with rich and the boyz!!!!!!!!

DJ's left nut 02-24-2013 12:33 PM

He was also the best of the passers today. He was doing a really nice job on those deep fades and apart from one throw where he put it a bit behind the guy on a sideline route (though Irvin said they were being instructed to do that), he was balls on all day.

Wilson looked pretty awful. He was slow, he was erratic. If the scouts care at all about today's performance, Wilson played himself out of the 1st today.

Manuel looked much better than I expected him to look, he made some nice deep throws. I thought Bray looked better than the guys on TV did. Scott actually looked pretty solid, but not as athletic as I'd hoped.

Mostly I think Geno made it very very clear that he was the definitive best QB on the field. Barkley's pro-day and interviews could make it interesting, but the other guys are well in the rearview.

cabletech94 02-24-2013 12:44 PM

geno did say he met with the chefs, along with 10 other teams including the raiders and stillers.

that's about all they talked with him. of course they pimped his interview that will be aired with mariucci at 6pm central tonight. for those who care.

sorry if Q.

htismaqe 02-24-2013 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9431944)
His official time was the exact same as Cam Newton's.

He's as fast as Cam, he's a better passer than Cam and he's a better citizen than the computer thief.

Yet he's not a worthwhile #1 overall pick...yeah right.

People need to stop worrying about it.

Geno is going to be the pick. The new regime isn't dumb enough to pass on him.

Hammock Parties 02-25-2013 08:07 AM

Ezekiel Ansah just ran a 4.62 at 6-5 270.

Hammock Parties 02-25-2013 08:25 AM

Dion Jordan 4.53. Holy smokes.

KevB 02-25-2013 08:36 AM

How about Margus Hunt? 4.65 at 277. Also 38 reps of 225. Damn.

KevB 02-25-2013 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by KevB (Post 9435869)
How about Margus Hunt? 4.65 at 277. Also 38 reps of 225. Damn.

Now he just ran a 4.6 flat. Dude is 6'8 and also went 38" vertical. He's a super freak.

Nightfyre 02-25-2013 09:36 AM

Margus Hunt at 2.1. Make it happen.

htismaqe 02-25-2013 09:40 AM

Can't take Hunt.

We're using that 2.1 to trade up and draft Ryan Nassib.

Hammock Parties 02-25-2013 09:44 AM

I would love to get Dion Jordan at 2.2

Nightfyre 02-25-2013 09:46 AM

Dion Jordan concerns me. I watched his stanford game and Zach ****ing Ertz dominated him. He lost contain on several plays and didn't make a single impact play all game, for example.

KevB 02-25-2013 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9436013)
I would love to get Dion Jordan at 2.2

Jordan is going top 20. No way an athlete that like doesn't go first round.

KevB 02-25-2013 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 9436021)
Dion Jordan concerns me. I watched his stanford game and Zach ****ing Ertz dominated him. He lost contain on several plays and didn't make a single impact play all game, for example.

Well, he played with a torn labrum this season. My concern would be his ability to maintain weight. He dropped pretty low during the season. As he matures I'd think that becomes less of a concern. Watching him run around in drills, dude is really athletic.

Nightfyre 02-25-2013 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by KevB (Post 9436037)
Jordan is going top 20. No way an athlete that like doesn't go first round.

I agree. But his tape does concern me.

RUSH 02-25-2013 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by KevB (Post 9436037)
Jordan is going top 20. No way an athlete that like doesn't go first round.

I think he'll go in the top 10 if his shoulder checks out.

Could see him go as high as #2. Would be a great fit in Jacksonville.

Hammock Parties 02-25-2013 10:07 AM

Bark Mingo with a 4.53. Beast.

htismaqe 02-25-2013 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9436072)
Bark Mingo with a 4.53. Beast.

Mingo really cemented his status this weekend. And with Moore flaming out on the bench, Mingo has to be happy.

Hammock Parties 02-25-2013 10:11 AM

Sheldon Richardson ran a 5 flat. So much for him being a freak.

Hammock Parties 02-25-2013 10:16 AM

4.79 for Werner. Just OK.

PaulAllen 02-25-2013 10:22 AM

Mingo looks like he's trying out for the nba not the Nfl

The Franchise 02-25-2013 10:42 AM

Scott Wright ‏@DraftCountdown

The #NFLCombine has not been kind to #TexasA&M DE Damontre Moore. Only did 12 reps in bench press, ran a 4.9 then got hurt.

htismaqe 02-25-2013 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9436156)
Scott Wright ‏@DraftCountdown

The #NFLCombine has not been kind to #TexasA&M DE Damontre Moore. Only did 12 reps in bench press, ran a 4.9 then got hurt.

Yep, Moore hurt himself really bad. He might be a late 1st/early 2nd guy now.

O.city 02-25-2013 10:48 AM

BPA in round two for the Chiefs?

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 02-25-2013 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9436164)
Yep, Moore hurt himself really bad. He might be a late 1st/early 2nd guy now.

About where he should be. He went from getting very little hype to getting huge amounts of hype after the season. Now he'll fall where he should. He's a 4-3 DE that needs to get stronger

KevB 02-25-2013 11:23 AM

Who's the new guy spotting on the bench? Seems like you might want a younger/stronger guy in that spot, there were several shaky spots when the guys maxed out.

KCrockaholic 02-25-2013 11:23 AM

I like Dion Jordan a lot.

I've heard people say Mingo would be a bust.

But personally I think Moore will be the bust.

KCrockaholic 02-25-2013 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9436183)
BPA in round two for the Chiefs?

If Tavon Austin is there, I wouldn't hesitate. IDC if he's a midget. He's a really ****ing good midget. We can send McSlapdick on his way out.

DJ's left nut 02-25-2013 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9436079)
Sheldon Richardson ran a 5 flat. So much for him being a freak.

The freak among DTs in this year's class is Floyd.

If we do the foolish thing and pass on Smith, then Floyd needs to be the guy they go after instead.

Saccopoo 02-25-2013 12:11 PM

Barkevious Mingo looked absolutely balls out in the drills.

Saccopoo 02-25-2013 12:15 PM

My ILB hope Jon Bostic just ripped off a 4.50 in the 40.

Mi_chief_fan 02-25-2013 12:55 PM

Manti Te'o in the 4.8 range, fyi.

the Talking Can 02-25-2013 12:59 PM

many good players to choose from with our #2...

Hammock Parties 02-25-2013 01:04 PM

4.81 LMAO

**** Mayock and all the Teo pimps.

Mi_chief_fan 02-25-2013 01:10 PM

I think this drops him out of the 1st round; he's shorter' smaller & slower than everyone thought.

Saccopoo 02-25-2013 01:15 PM

Cornelius Washington, OLB/DE Georgia, is absolutely tearing up the 40. 4.50 and 4.53.

Problem is, the guy has no football instincts.

BigChiefFan 02-25-2013 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9436183)
BPA in round two for the Chiefs?

WR or CB, most likely. The draft is deep for WR. We'd be wise to get Geno another quality target. Robert Woods would be my selection.

Mi_chief_fan 02-25-2013 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9436701)
Cornelius Washington, OLB/DE Georgia, is absolutely tearing up the 40. 4.50 and 4.53.

Problem is, the guy has no football instincts.

His future looks very silver & black.

KCrockaholic 02-25-2013 01:57 PM

Give me every Georgia LB. And Zavier Gooden is gonna be a beast for a 4-3 team.

BigChiefFan 02-25-2013 02:06 PM

Teo looks like shit at the combine. No way he goes in the top 100.

The Franchise 02-25-2013 03:13 PM

@RavensInsider Former LSU cornerback Tyrann Mathieu bench presses 225 pounds 4 times

DJ's left nut 02-25-2013 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9437050)
@RavensInsider Former LSU cornerback Tyrann Mathieu bench presses 225 pounds 4 times

Damn. We knew the kid was small, but shit, 4 times at 225 just says that he's avoided the weight room like the plague during his time away.

I know you don't have to be cock-strong to be a nickle and punt returner, but if he'd have been hitting the gym over the last 9 months, he'd have done better than that. A 4 is a result of simple laziness.

At that point it's less of a physical result and more of an indication as to what kind of drive he has and whether he's able to self-motivate.

With that score, he falls to UDFA status in my world.

Nightfyre 02-25-2013 03:29 PM

Mathieu should be scratched off the list at this point. I agree with what you are saying.

Sorter 02-25-2013 03:37 PM

The CoMo curse is nearly complete.

DJ's left nut 02-25-2013 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9437145)
The CoMo curse is nearly complete.

He's just uncanny.

It's why I know that Geno will be a star - CoMo hath foreseen it...but being opposed to it.

Sorter 02-25-2013 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9437169)
He's just uncanny.

It's why I know that Geno will be a star - CoMo hath foreseen it...but being opposed to it.

The mother****er is like, a seer.

Divine powers, he doth have them.

Setsuna 02-25-2013 04:00 PM

My boy Bostic moving up some boards. Nicely done sir.


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