Anybody still think Haley shouldn't have been fired?
 

I say he should have and am glad he is gone.

There he was front and center, the new OC of the Steelers playing Monday night to a national audience and his chance to bury the team that fired him for being the hack that he his. That is the best he could do against a 1-8 team? Those little passes sideways sure reminded me of the good ol days of him in KC. He didn't fool the Chiefs once with that lunacy.

A very poor effort indeed guiding an offense against the worst team in the NFL. His scheme to protect the QB didn't work out to well.

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Hell yes I do. He is terrible. Did you see the 3rd and inches to seal the game when he called the HB Draw? Like everyone on earth didn't know that shit was coming. He did that all the time in KC. That play completely summed up Todd Haley imo. He's still doing that stupid shit. ROFL

when Haley was here i hated him, especially his play calling but with Romeo running the ship... i miss Him more and more.

Hell, i miss Herm ****ing Edwards even.

And yet, he ended up on the winning side.

Are you SO petty that all you can think about is Todd Haley the day after we lost our 8th game out of 9? Especially since we lost because of STUPID, undisciplined play that Haley would have NEVER allowed?

JFC.

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He's a ****ing Steeler. He is gone. Get the **** over it.

Haley was not the issue, with a good GM and personnel he would succeed.

Aren't you one of the guys rooting for us to lose?

The root of this team's evil is and has always been not addressing the QB position and getting a long term solution at the position. Everyone fails without longterm stability at the position in today's NFL.

I don't have to root for them to lose. They'll lose regardless of what I do.

At this point, I could care less what happens on the field.

I'm ready to see what happens in the front office.

By the way, so what if I was? What the **** does that have to do with anything?

Haley is /was over his head as a HC. He is a coordinator. Replacement for RAC? That is for the brilliant genius of Clark Hunt to decide. Hopefully Pioli is out of the mix.

Haley's offense was so bad he allowed the Chiefs to get their first lead of the season.

Revenge!!!!!!!

I kind of grinned when Cassel threw the pick....sue me.

When you look at your first post, it has everything to do with it imo.

Actually no it doesn't.

My first post was about fans being petty, worrying about a guy that's not here anymore instead of worrying about the guy that SHOULDN'T be here anymore.

Whether I root for them to lose is irrelevant.

look jackwad, I will talk about what ever I want and don't give a flying rats behind if you like it or not. Let's talk petty...are you so petty that you have to make comment about someone being petty....get over yourself

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I hate Todd Haley. He ruined this franchise! :deevee:

Eat shit, tool.

So you are bitching at us for feeling passionate about beating the guy who wasted three years of our lives?

**** that. You'll be the first guy posting when Bowe scores a TD next year on another team.

I could present at least half-a-dozen reasonably compelling reasons why Haley wipes his ass with Crennel, but it's all been discussed to death.

The fact is that he has moved on to greener pastures and we are 1-8 and dancing our asses off as the franchise collapses around our ears. The Chiefs have devolved into an absolute laughing stock and I trust the clean-shaven Haley haters are all wearing pristine hats in celebration.

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The guy that wasted 3, going on 4, years of your life is STILL IN KANSAS CITY YOU ****ING MORON.

Todd Haley is irrelevant. :deevee:

JFC :facepalm:

I'm so glad Haley is gone. He was embarrassing. ROFL

It started with Haley last year. If he had coached the last three games, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

you have the wittiest come backs

this wasn't about hating Todd Haley. There were several on this board who thought he shouldn't have been fired....I say he should and you didn't have to see too much last night from him to think otherwise.

I don't give two craps about Haley or you

And what about that nasty beard? Yuckie!!!

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If you don't give two craps about Haley, why did you post this? ROFL

Your and idiot.

And that's being kind.

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You are SO full of shit. SO full of shit.

It's possible that Haley may be marginally better than Crennel. However, they are both dogshit HCs and neither is the answer to developing a winning formula.

Seems like Haley gets treated by some the same way mediocre/bad QBs around the league get treated by KC fans as if we had them as our QB then we'd be SB contenders simply because we have the worst QBs.

Pioli is definately next if we are going to fix this. That's pretty much a no brainer but, don't act like we were going anywhere with Haley. He was terrible.

Who here thinks Haley is "all that"?

If you notice, I never refuted that he needed to be fired.

That fact we're even talking about Haley is pathetic.

We've got a front office to gut, goddammit!

Where did I single you out in that post, dumbass?

Who is acting like we were going anywhere with Haley?

Haley was a bad head coach, right?

Well, this is WORSE.

So why even start a ****ing thread about Haley unless you're a 4th grade girl who can't get over shit?

I would honestly say that Crennel out coached him last night. His defense definately had Rothlesberger confused imo. The defensive game planning was better than Pitts offensive game planning imo.

In Haley's defense Pittsburgh was down three starters on offense before Big Ben got hurt.

Setting aside the infighting for a moment, I'm not sure it's advisable to use last night's game as a good metric for your argument, Mr. King_Chief_Fan. The overall record might be a better measure.

Also, it's interesting that the Steelers beat us with their 2nd string quarterback last night ... a quarterback who's lost his job with two really bad teams.

We lost in style, though. And with RAC love in our hearts.

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Did I say you singled me out?

I asked you a question and pointed out how I had already answered it.

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Why reply if you feel that way? It's pretty obvious alot of people would feel this way.

I think you are just so angry at me because you subconciously know that Pioli will be here for a while and I have voiced that.

2012 Steelers with Haley: 6-3
2012 Chiefs without Haley: 1-8

What are you guys crowing about?

I don't know about "those people", Mr. jd1020. I have my own reasons for liking Haley's head coaching style ... and I came up with them all by myself on my own.

In counterpoint to your comment, though ... there are also a number of Chiefs fans who appear to dislike Haley for purely emotional reasons ... or, because they simply think it's the "thing to do". At least, that's how it seems from my viewpoint.

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I'm angry because I ****ing hate Scott Pioli and I can't believe he was actually able to convince people that Todd Haley was the scapegoat.

I'm directing it at YOU because you're one of the ****ing lemmings that bought that line of bullshit.

Oopsie...

There is where we agree - the real firings have yet to come

But don't act like getting rid of Haley wasn't necessary

It's a process

In our defense, we had Matt Cassel

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Comparing his lesser involvement on a better team.

Why not compare his years in KC as HC when he tried to be HC and OC?

I hated him from the beginning man. I nicknamed him Happy Gilmore because he was an angry golfer. I thought he was a terrible hire from day one. For years I trashed the guy.

I just wanted him gone from day one. I don't care what you think he was made out to be.

Yep. Golfers have never been successful at anything outside of golf. Never. Ever.

Personally, I love the game of golf. It teaches you discipline, concentration, focus, patience ... all kinds of useful things. Plus, it's cool to swing a stick at things and golf has a great name ... golf. Golf. Golf, golf, golf. It's an awesome name. Golf.

They could have named it like other sports ... Whiteball or Tinyball or Dimpleball or something like that. But no ... they said, "Screw that. We'll call it golf." Golf is cool.

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Necessary? I don't think so.

Getting rid of him was WARRANTED. He deserved it.

It wasn't NECESSARY, as that implies that him being gone would somehow improve this team. Obviously, it hasn't. At all.

So you're just narrow-minded then.

I'll admit. I didn't want Haley fired. This shit is really ****ed up now.

Does a wild bear crap on a golf course?

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This is reeruned.

It was absolutely NECESSARY to fire Haley. Just like it's becoming apparent that it's absolutely NECESSARY to fire Pioli and every ex-Patriot hes brought to this team.

Ok...

After the ninth game in 2011 with Haley but without Charles, Berry and Moeaki: 4-5

After the ninth game in 2012 without Haley but with Charles, Berry and Moeaki: 1-8

I have no problem with Haley being fired.

I have a real problem with anybody that believes that Haley was the reason this team was so bad, especially now that they're WORSE.

Haley needed to be fired after the Jets game because, as a public face of the franchise, he can't just act like that on TV. He can't, he should know better.

However, this front office did him wrong. He just chose to deal with it in the wrong way.

Todd Haley: 19-26
Romeo Crennel: 27-49

In and of itself (which is how we were speaking), it was NOT necessary to fire Haley.

If you want to include "firing Haley" as part of the overall housecleaning that's needed, I absolutely agree with you.

But by itself, it was not necessary and our current win/loss record proves it.

I'm sorry, but I can't compute such stupidity.

Haley was an incompetent HC and it was necessary to fire him. That doesn't change if he were to be fired with a group of people or without.

It might be useful to mention that the NFL entered the 2011 year without the benefit of an off-season training camp which was particularly harmful to young, inexperienced teams like the Chiefs.

It's incredible the lengths some people will go to in order to bash Haley who did nothing but drag this pitiful franchise by the short hairs into some form of brief respectability ... all, I might add, while he was being maliciously undercut and undermined by the GM.

Haley made mistakes, to be sure. But the amount of hatred directed toward him is way out of proportion to any errors he may have made. I'll bet he rues the day he ever came to work for the Chiefs ... and I wouldn't blame him.

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.420 win %

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.360 win %

Translation: Who ****ing cares?

The only way firing him is a NECESSITY is if it improves the team. It didn't. They were actually better WITH him.

So no, firing him wasn't necessary. Unless this record-setting shithole team was what you wanted.

People who can't get over Todd Haley.

I don't think so but hey, opinions are like assholes.

When Pittsburgh had the ball late in the game and it was 3rd and inches and they lined up in the shotgun, you knew what was coming right?

How many times when it was 3rd and inches did we see him run that stupid HB draw in KC? The very fact that he tried to run against his old team in that situation pretty much says it all imo.

He is a bonafide idiot.


Yes, I do have a problem with a guy who never played football going around and yelling at players etc. It was doomed before it ever even started. You can't act that way if you have never played. It will wear thin quick.....and it did.

As you continue to be active in a thread about Haley.

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Yeah, because it bugs me that people still can't let it go.

Sue me.

And using Byron Leftwich. JFC I assumed he was in an old folks home somewhere.

Oh and the Ravens and all there coaches are even more ****ed because they only scored 6.

What this does show is that when motivated (by the world seeing them play) there is a lot of talent there. Whats missing is coaching and enough added talent by the GM.

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C'mon, man. You're way smarter than you're letting on.

Haley took over a disaster. Crennel took over a team that had potential and benefited from the return of two (possibly three) important starters, then turned it into a disaster.

I've seen your posts. I know you are a deeper thinker than this and these kinds of arguments are making me sad.

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Ah, you're one of THOSE people.

And Pioli is a psychopath.

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Congratulations, JD. You have a fan.

And a QUALITY one at that...

That's the blue sky in this rat's ass hole, right there.

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Any way you look at it, it was good to see him suck imo. He was lucky he got to squirm away with a win. He called a shitty game.

Yeah, it sure was great to see him suck.

In a loss.

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Yeah and if Haley had called a pass you'd be bitching up a storm that he was "THAT" stupid. Imagine running on 3rd and short to ice the game, there isn't a coach anywhere that would run the ball, you are the most obtuse moron I have ever encountered.

No, I don't coach football and go around yelling at people. Yes, Pioli is a psychopath. If you read the book, you would understand.

You really look foolish right now. I would take a break dude. Take it from one who regrets meltdowns.

Please, the HB draws are what drove fans crazy.

It doesn't matter. You guys are going to have his back through and through.

Some people might see it.

You know I'm sure you can answer a question I have wondered about my entire life. Is it physically painful to be this stupid?

I would think so but could you be so kind as to explain the different pains in detail?

Haley was a hard-ass who instilled discipline to a team that sorely needed it.

Part of the reason I personally think the team played better last night??

Just because Todd Haley was in the house, and there is a such thing as professional pride - every single person on this KC roster played better, smarter, faster, more efficient football when Todd Haley was the coach here. That is a fact that only an idiot would dispute.

He wasn't perfect, but he was growing into the job. He will be a GREAT head coach, when he gets an opporunity. Getting saddled with Matt Cassel, Tyler Palko, and Lucifer the GM are the reasons he went nuts in Kansas City. I would've too.

Give him Byron Leftwich, a 3rd-string offensive line, and a rain storm...he don't give a ****, he's gonna punt the ball to MATT CASSELL.

And with a 40-yr old immobile QB, behind a reshuffled 3red string line, and in the rain...they still got more points than the Chiefs 'top dogz.' I can't believe people are bitching about Haley.

JFC, Fire Pioli, Fire RAC, give Todd Haley $5m a year to come finish what he started, and promote Joel Collier to find a REAL GM.

As a matter of fact, nothing this franchise can really do will fix my displeasure. This is like finding out Santa Claus is fake, your mom is both the tooth fairy and the Easter Bunny, and that little girl Mary down the street likes Billy better because Billy's mom packs Twinkies in his lunch...like, there's no fixing it. The dream is over for me, man.

No matter who they hire, I will always have this stench in the back of my mind. Pioli hijacked my franchise. Haley actually GAVE A SHIT about the Chiefs and KC in general. Pioli couldn't give a **** less, and it shows.

**** you reeruns - I LOVE Todd Haley as a head coach. Didn't take shit off some snot-nosed millionaire QB or nothing. I miss him and I'd take him back in a heartbeat.

todd haley beat us with BYRON LEFTWHICH

BYRON ****ING LEFTWHICH

think about that. Won the game by 3 points with Byron Leftwhich who hasnt won a game as a full starter since 2006. 2006!!!!!

He still won, with a backup QB and a two backup RBs who are not that good. He beat this team. And that is ****ing sad.

Not to mention an offensive line that is far, far worse than ours ... even today.

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