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suds79 11-26-2012 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 9153480)
I would like to see him as our 2nd QB pick in this draft.

Chiefs playing 2nd fiddle again? Haven't we done that forever at QB?

No thanks.

Time to get the highest rated guy.

Have you seen the stats on SB winning QBs taken in the 1st vs everywhere else?

DaKCMan AP 11-26-2012 10:58 AM

In 13 years as a head coach, Tony Dungy has drafted 3 QBs:

2004 6th Jim Sorgi
2000 7th Joe Hamilton
1999 2nd Shaun King

When it comes to drafting a QB, Tony Dungy should STFU.

suds79 11-26-2012 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9153485)
In 13 years as a head coach, Tony Dungy has drafted 3 QBs:

2004 6th Jim Sorgi
2000 7th Joe Hamilton
1999 2nd Shaun King

When it comes to drafting a QB, Tony Dungy should STFU.

Thread over.

KCrockaholic 11-26-2012 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 9153484)
Chiefs playing 2nd fiddle again? Haven't we done that forever at QB?

No thanks.

Time to get the highest rated guy.

Have you seen the stats on SB winning QBs taken in the 1st vs everywhere else?

You completely whiffed on his point.

L.A. Chieffan 11-26-2012 11:04 AM

When you have Peyton Manning you dont really need to address that position in the draft.

Willie Lanier 11-26-2012 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 9153480)
I would like to see him as our 2nd QB pick in this draft.

Yeah, that's not gonna happen

If he declares he'll be a first round pick. I would rather have Geno or Tyler Wilson but if we draft him I won't be upset, he has the tools and the height thing is way over-rated...

Either you can make the throws or you can't, and we've seen a lot of the latter

Dave Lane 11-26-2012 11:04 AM

Dungy reminds me of a little better Herm. And his opinion has slightly more weight than Nick Athan. None.

WhiteWhale 11-26-2012 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Lou_Zare (Post 9153467)
ya, this guy is a good college QB but I don't think he will be any good in the NFL for several reasons, one being he's small build.

Meh. The best QB I ever saw was listed at 6-2 and 200 pounds, and both of those are obviously likely exaggerated. I'm not scared of shorter QB's at all. This QB (obv Montana) was skinny though, and he was injured a lot. Skinny QB's do worry me, because they get injured and a guy who can't play can't help his team win.

I think the biggest reason shorter QB's rarely succeed, and purely my opinion, is the prejudice against them. They're drafted low and even if they start they're given a short leash and basically expected to fail.

The Drew Brees argument is obviously tired, but I don't know of a lot of other QB's who are under 6-2 that were given a legit opportunity to succeed. Wilson got a legit shot and he's done pretty well with it as a rookie. The sample size has been kept pretty small. I mean I don't think 5-9 linebackers are ideal, but if a guy can play, he can play.

Not really about Murray though. I like Geno better.

FAX 11-26-2012 11:16 AM

The guy has an arm and a great, quick release.

FAX

DaKCMan AP 11-26-2012 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan (Post 9153499)
When you have Peyton Manning you dont really need to address that position in the draft.

- signed 2011 Indianapolis Colts

Mr. Laz 11-26-2012 12:16 PM

Just saw Palmer on Espn ... He says that statistically, Aaron Murray has been the most efficient QB in college football this year.

:shrug:

i'm not pushing for Murray ... just repeating what i hear.

RealSNR 11-26-2012 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 9153635)
Just saw Palmer on Espn ... He says that statistically, Aaron Murray has been the most efficient QB in college football this year.

:shrug:

i'm not pushing for Murray ... just repeating what i hear.

I could learn to like the guy if I knew more about him. It doesn't exactly sell me that his team has been doing well with the most lethal running game in college football and a top 5 defense.

I know he has a good history and can make most throws. I'm not saying he's Greg McElroy. I would have liked to see him flash more this season, that's all.

Old Dog 11-26-2012 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9153551)
- signed 2011 Indianapolis Colts

seems to me as though it worked out really well for them

Sorter 11-26-2012 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9153648)
I could learn to like the guy if I knew more about him. It doesn't exactly sell me that his team has been doing well with the most lethal running game in college football and a top 5 defense.

I know he has a good history and can make most throws. I'm not saying he's Greg McElroy. I would have liked to see him flash more this season, that's all.

I've watched a lot of Murray last year, not so much this year.

Probably not worthy of the #1 pick but I would have him right behind Wilson.
1. Geno
2. Wilson
3. Murray
4. Nassib
5. Bray/ Barkley

DaKCMan AP 11-26-2012 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 9153635)
Just saw Palmer on Espn ... He says that statistically, Aaron Murray has been the most efficient QB in college football this year.

:shrug:

i'm not pushing for Murray ... just repeating what i hear.

Look at Georgia's schedule. They've had it very easy for being in the SEC East. No Alabama, no LSU, no A&M.

Here's what Murray did against the two ranked teams they've played:

@ South Carolina
11-31 (35.5%) 109yds 0 TD 1 INT 58.6 Rating
vs. Florida
12-24 (50%) 150yds 1 TD 3 INT 91.3 Rating

In all other games combined:

190-265 (71.7%) 29 TD 3 INT 202.1 Rating


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