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Direckshun 03-21-2013 06:45 PM

How good, exactly, is Branden Albert.
 
Here's a list of the starting left tackles from last year, according to NFL.com:

Nate Solder (Patriots)
D'Brickashaw Ferguson (Jets)
Jake Long (Dolphins)
Cordy Glenn (Bills)

Bryant McKinnie (Ravens)
Max Starks (Steelers)
Andrew Whitworth (Bengals)
Joe Thomas (Browns)

Anthony Castonzo (Colts)
Eugene Monroe (Jaguars)
Michael Roos (Titans)
Duane Brown (Texans)

Branden Albert (Chiefs)
Ryan Clady (Broncos)
Michael Harris (Chargers)
Jared Veldeer (Raiders)

Will Beatty (Giants)
Tyron Smith (Cowboys)
Trent Williams (Redskins)
King Dunlap (Eagles)

J'Marcus Webb (Bears)
Marshall Newhouse (Packers)
Jeff Backus (Lions)
Matt Kalil (Vikings)

Jerman Bushrod (Saints)
Donald Penn (Buccaneers)
Jordan Gross (Panthers)
Sam Baker (Falcons)

Joe Staley (49ers)
Levi Brown (Cardinals)
Russell Okung (Seahawks)
Roger Saffold (Rams)

You want to call Branden Albert a top 10 LT? Then list specifically where he lands in this list.

Keep in mind, we're probably going to have at least three new ones next year in Bryan Bulaga (Packers), Mike Adams (if he can beat out Starks in Pittsburgh), Luke Joeckel (whomever drafts him) and Eric Fisher (same).

LoneWolf 03-21-2013 06:47 PM

What does PFF say? Oh yeah, who gives a ****.

alpha_omega 03-21-2013 06:49 PM

He should be a guard playing next to Eugene Monroe??????????
Jk

Easy 6 03-21-2013 06:49 PM

On his worst day, top 10.

On his best, top 3.

WV 03-21-2013 06:50 PM

He's top 5 to me...top 7 minimum.

Only Staley, Thomas, Kalil, Clady, and Long are in the same conversation in my book.

Chiefnj2 03-21-2013 06:50 PM

Who gives a flying **** if he is top 15, top 10 or top 5?

It doesn't matter how he compares to other LTs on other teams.

He is the best offensive lineman on the Chiefs. It's not even close. He has a higher value to the Chiefs because he's one of the few offensive positions that you don't have to worry about. Who is better than Albert on offense? Charles and maybe Bowe?

You don't dump one of your top 3 offensive players when you have dog crap behind and around him.

Ming the Merciless 03-21-2013 06:50 PM

top 7 ish

Direckshun 03-21-2013 06:50 PM

All things being equal (money, health) I'd rather take:

Ferguson
Long
Roos
Clady
Thomas
Penn
Gross
Whitworth
Okung

I'd say he's about on par with:

McKinnie
Kalil
Beatty
D. Brown
Bushrod
Staley
Joeckel

I'd rather have him then:

Solder
Glenn
Starks
Castonzo
Monroe
Harris
Veldeer
Smith
Dunlap
Webb
Newhouse
Backus
Baker
L. Brown
Saffold
Bulaga
Adams
Fisher

Ming the Merciless 03-21-2013 06:52 PM

youre an idiot , some of those havent played a snap

how could you even compare them

Direckshun 03-21-2013 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 9519384)
youre an idiot , some of those havent played a snap

how could you even compare them

Only four of them haven't played a snap at LT. I just conservatively projected them.

The other 32 are/were starting left tackles.

track 03-21-2013 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 9519359)
Here's a list of the starting left tackles from last year, according to NFL.com:

Nate Solder (Patriots)
D'Brickashaw Ferguson (Jets)
Jake Long (Dolphins)
Cordy Glenn (Bills)

Bryant McKinnie (Ravens)
Max Starks (Steelers)
Andrew Whitworth (Bengals)
Joe Thomas (Browns)

Anthony Castonzo (Colts)
Eugene Monroe (Jaguars)
Michael Roos (Titans)
Duane Brown (Texans)

Branden Albert (Chiefs)
Ryan Clady (Broncos)
Michael Harris (Chargers)
Jared Veldeer (Raiders)

Will Beatty (Giants)
Tyron Smith (Cowboys)
Trent Williams (Redskins)
King Dunlap (Eagles)

J'Marcus Webb (Bears)
Marshall Newhouse (Packers)
Jeff Backus (Lions)
Matt Kalil (Vikings)

Jerman Bushrod (Saints)
Donald Penn (Buccaneers)
Jordan Gross (Panthers)
Sam Baker (Falcons)

Joe Staley (49ers)
Levi Brown (Cardinals)
Russell Okung (Seahawks)
Roger Saffold (Rams)

You want to call Branden Albert a top 10 LT? Then list specifically where he lands in this list.

Keep in mind, we're probably going to have at least three new ones next year in Bryan Bulaga (Packers), Mike Adams (if he can beat out Starks in Pittsburgh), Luke Joeckel (whomever drafts him) and Eric Fisher (same).


I don't claim to have watched any of the guys on your list but I have never been overly impressed by albert....He has had his far share of penalties and getting whipped on passing plays. it also seemed like most of our success at running with Jamaal was to the right side...not his side.

RealSNR 03-21-2013 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 9519380)
Who gives a flying **** if he is top 15, top 10 or top 5?

It doesn't matter how he compares to other LTs on other teams.

He is the best offensive lineman on the Chiefs. It's not even close. He has a higher value to the Chiefs because he's one of the few offensive positions that you don't have to worry about. Who is better than Albert on offense? Charles and maybe Bowe?

You don't dump one of your top 3 offensive players when you have dog crap behind and around him.

This.

Tribal Warfare 03-21-2013 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 9519382)
All things being equal (money, health) I'd rather take:

Ferguson
Long
Roos
Clady
Thomas
Penn
Gross
Whitworth
Okung

I'd say he's about on par with:

McKinnie
Kalil
Beatty
D. Brown
Bushrod
Staley
Joeckel


Joeckel hasn't played a snap in the NFL and he's already on par with Albert? Come on, now that is bullshit.

jd1020 03-21-2013 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 9519382)
I'd say he's about on par with:

McKinnie
Kalil
Beatty
D. Brown
Bushrod
Staley
Joeckel

:LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL:

Direckshun 03-21-2013 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 9519390)
Joeckel hasn't played a snap in the NFL and he's already on par with Albert? Come on, now that is bullshit.

He should be about on par with Albert, yes. It's hard to project folks compared to just ranking what you've seen, but there it is.

If you put Brandon Albert on Texas A&M this past year, he would have similarly dominated.


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