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temper11 09-28-2016 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Smellway (Post 12454330)
It is a strong correlation.

The point of it is very clear: being 32nd in YPC is NOT acceptable and will NOT lead to playoff success.

It's a loser's statistic.
If he's 32nd at the end of the regular season, then I'll concede. It's been 3 games with his number 1 wide receiver playing like a zombie after the death of his friend, behind now a different starting offensive line in each game against two of the strongest D's in the league.

Marcellus 09-28-2016 12:16 PM
Someone need to tell Alex to quite dropping passes.

staylor26 09-28-2016 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12454337)
Who the **** wanted Alex? Andy runs everything on the offense man. Missing open players and taking sacks is embarrassing for a 32 year old starting QB.

It was understandable for Alex to struggle in 2014 when the OL was horrific and we didn't have receivers, but after Alex growing last year, he's stopped.

This offense has so much talent.

Maclin=top 100 player. Legit pro bowl talent.
Kelce=pro bowl talent
Ware-legit top 5 RB so far---most yards from scrimmage entering last weeks game.
OL=solid
Conley=solid number 2 WR so far. Very reliable.

Why are we still struggling to score points?
You just changed the argument entirely.

Also, the OL has not been "solid" the past two weeks, and Maclin hasn't played well either.

Rausch 09-28-2016 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 12454343)
Someone need to tell Alex to quite dropping passes.
OR, you could quit posting when you're ****ed up...

Hammock Parties 09-28-2016 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by temper11 (Post 12454341)
If he's 32nd at the end of the regular season, then I'll concede. It's been 3 games with his number 1 wide receiver playing like a zombie after the death of his friend, behind now a different starting offensive line in each game against two of the strongest D's in the league.
excuses...smithbaters have them!

temper11 09-28-2016 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12454311)
He didn't hold it too long on thay play. He left a picket when he shouldn't have and missed a wide open angle route over the middle.
If he doesn't leave the pocket then he gets clobbered at 2 seconds by Fisher's guy who beat Fish badly. Leaving the pocket to the right gave him an extra second of life. The wheel route doesn't open until after Fish gets beat and Smith is already on the move.

Now, had Smith stayed in the pocket he could have hit the wheel right at the line of scrimmage... throwing the ball 9 yards short of the line to gain on 3rd down. Something he gets ripped for constantly by fans, media critics etc. etc.

He was instead looking downfield (which everyone here keeps saying they want him to do) of which there was nothing open.

So scrambling at 3 seconds, sacked under 4 with nothing open in his line of sight. I'd have been running ladders on that play.

temper11 09-28-2016 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Smellway (Post 12454348)
excuses...smithbaters have them!
reality.

Hammock Parties 09-28-2016 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by temper11 (Post 12454406)
reality.
http://i.imgur.com/dVYyYNr.jpg

temper11 09-28-2016 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Smellway (Post 12454409)
yeah... we just went through that. See posts above - nothing new here. That's all for me, got to get back to work. Thanks for the debate all.

Go Chiefs.

O.city 09-28-2016 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by temper11 (Post 12454400)
If he doesn't leave the pocket then he gets clobbered at 2 seconds by Fisher's guy who beat Fish badly. Leaving the pocket to the right gave him an extra second of life. The wheel route doesn't open until after Fish gets beat and Smith is already on the move.

Now, had Smith stayed in the pocket he could have hit the wheel right at the line of scrimmage... throwing the ball 9 yards short of the line to gain on 3rd down. Something he gets ripped for constantly by fans, media critics etc. etc.

He was instead looking downfield (which everyone here keeps saying they want him to do) of which there was nothing open.

So scrambling at 3 seconds, sacked under 4 with nothing open in his line of sight. I'd have been running ladders on that play.
https://twitter.com/Super_G_Chiefs/s...48634112135168

Fisher wasn't beaten bafly. Pushes his guy wide, stay in the pocket.

staylor26 09-28-2016 12:58 PM
Ryan, Cutler, Tannehill, Stanford, and Cousins.

That sure is elite ****ING company.

The Packers should go ahead and trade Rodgers. He's clearly overrated.

O.city 09-28-2016 12:59 PM
Y/c doesn't seem like the beat stat here. Relies on YAC as well, right?

staylor26 09-28-2016 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12454421)
Y/c doesn't seem like the beat stat here. Relies on YAC as well, right?
Exactly. And it also relies on the WR catching the ****ing football.

Hard for Smith's YPC to look good when Harris and Maclin are dropping balls thrown downfield.

Hammock Parties 09-28-2016 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12454421)
Y/c doesn't seem like the beat stat here. Relies on YAC as well, right?
YPC is more accurate than YPA because YPA can be skewed by drops.

Hammock Parties 09-28-2016 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12454427)
Exactly. And it also relies on the WR catching the ****ing football.

Hard for Smith's YPC to look good when Harris and Maclin are dropping balls throw downfield.
Drops hurt the YPA statistic, but they aren't part of YPC since it only takes into consideration completed passes.


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