Drama in New England
 

Apparently Patriots owner told the Falcons owner not to hire Belichick and not to trust him. Sounds like he's still bitter that Belichick pushed Brady out.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Robert Kraft ‘a big part’ of why ‘blindsided’ Bill Belichick lost out on Falcons job <a href="https://t.co/wO1rtZleIQ">https://t.co/wO1rtZleIQ</a> <a href="https://t.co/LzkRoFrXWY">pic.twitter.com/LzkRoFrXWY</a></p>&mdash; New York Post (@nypost) <a href="https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1780616952886477008?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 17, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Never get involved with anything New England

If true, that's still on the Falcons owner for being influenced by an scumbag piece of shit like Kraft.

Not that hiring Belichick was a good idea in the first place.

Doubtful

Beli can still coach, and cheat, but I wouldn't let him be GM as well.

Nice NY Post article, very useful

LMAO

You love your CNN, NY Times, Washington Post, etc. though don't you?

I would hate for Clark to do something like that to Reid...thankfully he's a decent guy.

Shut up, staylor NY Post is a ****ing tabloid this isn't political

Be honest with yourself and realize they are all tabloids these days

I believe this is the correct assessment.

The more the Pats soil themselves, the better.


**** them.

Belichick was on the McAfee show today. Don't know if it's a concerted effort to make himself the good guy or if this is really how he is once the facade drops but he was completely different. All smiles and dropping some pretty damn interesting tidbits.

You're in a cult.

Bill is done. Without Brady leading the team it all went to shit. Can't draft and hired his shithead DC to be the OC of a rookie QB. Should have been canned for that. Documentary basicly said he's an asshole. Nobody wants him around.

Did y’all watch The Dynasty on Apple?

Very clear Kraft-directed hit job on Belichick. It was super entertaining but also dramatically skewed in a certain direction.

I have no doubt that Belichick is actually really ****ing cool, engaging, and funny. If you listen to the Edelmans and Gronks of the world, you get a good window into who he is and how he needed to run things for his system.

what cult is that dude, hating both political parties or hating bad news outlets tell me more we should bring that into this thread

Yea, all you need to do is go to any Patriots forum or their subreddit and you will see that the fanbase has turned on Kraft due to everything that has come out.

You know what you were doing and now you're playing dumb.

If it were any left leaning news outlet (in other words, the overwhelming majority), you wouldn't have said anything. In reality, they're no better, and in many cases, even worse.

the patriots dynasty was bad and evil and corrupt and wrong and stinky

the chiefs dynasty is good and pure and the way and the truth and the life and smells like roses

I do and I wear a mask. What u gonna do about it?

Well that's enough CP for the day lol staylor out here risking it all to defend the NY Post lmao

It's really fascinating how Reid and Belichick take seemingly opposite approaches to the same 'problem'. Reid seems to go out of his way to be purposely affable and lean into the lol fat man funny gimmick at times, even though we all know how ruthless he's capable of being. Belichick went the completely opposite direction and purposely drained himself of any personality whatsoever in public. It's pretty neat to see who he actually is.

Nobody is risking anything. You are the one that has a history of doing stuff like that, then pretending you aren't being political. The only time I do it in the Lounge is in response. I will never start it :shrug:

Yeah, I don’t begrudge either. Just cut from a different cloth and then evolution happened. A lot of luck and fortune in both of their experiences. Seven years ago they’re not mentioned in the same breath, but now Reid’s “players’ coach” mentality seems so much more obvious than the “Patriots Way.” And Reid is a great coach but if he didn’t have Mahomes and Belichick didn’t have Brady, the world looks a lot different and maybe we’re gushing over Tomlin or someone else.

I don't believe you. Hard to wear a mask when you're sucking cock all day.

I've definitely overly denigrated Belichick at times, even though I still genuinely believe he is overall an absolutely awful personnel man.

We're also incredibly lucky to have retained Spagnuolo all this time. The fact he's inarguably the most accomplished and a top tier coordinator yet can't even get a single interview despite publicly stating he wants one every year is ****ing asinine.

I think this was all taken out of context. Kraft clarified his statements:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Robert Kraft quick to address the rumors <a href="https://t.co/jxhUFqeN0x">pic.twitter.com/jxhUFqeN0x</a></p>&mdash; McNeil (@Reflog_18) <a href="https://twitter.com/Reflog_18/status/1780603969339060342?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 17, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The NY Post doesn't have anything to do with this story. They're just quoting what ESPN reported yesterday.

This is all just silly. Wasn't NY Post the outlet that broke the Hunter laptop story? Kinda hard to paint them as a joke when that was a legit big story.

Anyway, you could just thread ignore. ;)

Sorry Bob....not buying it.

Not that I have any love for Bill B but if I had to choose it wouldn't be Kraft.

No, its not

In some States, you can't even do that. You can't say that. You can't act maliciously. But I'm not 100% sure on Reference law in Massachusetts. In Colorado, Kraft might be in deep trouble for doing that, and at least Civil Court trouble.

Uhh... y'all do realize that's a joke post referencing Mr Kraft's rub and tug in the massage parlor, right?

NE dick picing their way back into your redzone

Love it. Hope they suffer for 50 years.

If anyone knows about happy endings, it's Robert Kraft.

I haven’t watched it but this is exactly what I’m hearing. Several Pats players have come out in Belichick’s defense, including Edelman and Stephon Gilmore from what I remember.

I also wouldn’t doubt that Beli is a cool ass dude behind the scenes. I’ve seen short clips of him coaching on the sidelines during games and was surprised that he sounded upbeat and normal. Whenever he’s in a press conference he sounds like a total douche, unless you ask some obscure question about a special teams formation from 1956 and allow him to nerd out lol

Here’s a good look at the more normal Bill:

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It's crazy to think that at this point we may never see Belichick even have a post-retirement relationship with the Patriots. Imagine a world where he isn't in their Hall of Fame. Is never honored or brought back. After all of that success it's just a bitter, nasty relationship. Way worse that what we saw with Jimmy Johnson and the Cowboys.

Right ROFL Nailed it too seeing the responses like it's legit ROFL

Good. Let's Big Andy catch up a bit. Hopefully takes everything from that cheating POS

With Tom Brady: 249 - 75
Without Tom Brady: 84 - 103 (Cleveland & NE HC Tenures)
Source: https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/...%20quarterback.

Stevegroganfan loves talking about the misery days of the franchise. He’s about to get his wish

But I did like Steve Grogan the player thou.

Not sure on that one.

Bill is washed and it's all come tonlight that his best players thought he was an asshole. Clearly Kraft blames him for Brady leaving and he got a little revenge. Kraft like all rich ****s take zero accountability. He should have canned Bill long ago.

Would the Pats have been better if Brady stayed?

Sure. But I doubt they were good enough to win another SB. Tampa had a lot of talent between WR and DL especially.

The Pats needed a rebuild and stupid of Kraft to blame Beli for that.

Now he probably should have canned Bill for the rebuild.

Canned him while he’s winning SBs?

That's right, cause the National Enquire said so. ROFL