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kcbubb 03-05-2024 08:41 AM

Christian Wilkins to become a free agent
 
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/c...er-report/amp/

Would you rather resign Chris Jones or sign Christian Wilkins? Jones is better IMO but Wilkens is younger and might be cheaper? I’d prefer Jones if we can get a reasonable deal done before free agency starts.

Christian Wilkins landing spots: Star to test NFL free agency as Dolphins won't franchise tag DT, per report

By Garrett Podell
18h ago

The Miami Dolphins have many big decisions to make this offseason. One of the biggest ones has apparently been made. The team will not be using the franchise tag on star defensive tackle Christian Wilkins, according to NFL Media. He's now set to become an unrestricted free agent and test the market.

Miami must clear $31.6 million in cap space before March 13 while facing a number of key players potentially leaving for free agency.

The 13th overall pick in the 2019 NFL Draft is the latest Dolphins defender to be looking for a new home. Miami's cuts of four-time Pro Bowl cornerback Xavien Howard and edge rusher Emmanuel Ogbah are projected to save the team over $30 million in cap space. The Dolphins signed Wilkins' running mate on the defensive interior, Zach Sieler, to a three-year, $30.75 million extension last offseason, but the former first-round pick appears to not be getting the same kind of courtesy the former seventh-round selection did.

Wilkins, 28, is hitting the free agent market at the perfect time, after the best year of his five-season career. He nearly matched his career sack total from his first four seasons (11.5) in 2023 with a career-high 9.0. Wilkins was one of six defensive tackles to register at least nine sacks last season joining Pro Bowler Justin Madubike (13.0), All-Pro Chris Jones (10.5), Sieler (10.0), Ed Oliver (9.5) and Kobie Turner (9.0).

With the Dolphins doling out high-dollar deals to wide receiver Tyreek Hill (four years, $120 million), edge rusher Bradley Chubb (five years, $110 million), left tackle Terron Armstead (five years, $75 million) and acquiring cornerback Jalen Ramsey via trade (five years, $100 million, Miami appears to not have room for Wilkins in the budget. That doesn't even factor in the looming extension for quarterback Tua Tagovailoa, who is entering 2024 on the final year of his rookie deal.

Since Wilkins is most likely headed elsewhere, let's take a look at some potential landing spots for the veteran defensive tackle.

Chicago Bears
Bears general manager Ryan Poles all but said quarterback Justin Fields is up for grabs via trade at the NFL Combine on Tuesday. With Chicago likely selecting 2022 Heisman Trophy winner and USC quarterback Caleb Williams first overall in the 2024 NFL Draft, the time clock resets contractually for the Bears at the game's most valuable and expensive position.

That means they have room to spend elsewhere. They enter free agency with $66.6 million in effective cap space, the fourth-most in the entire NFL according to OverTheCap.com. The Bears had the best run defense in the NFL last season, allowing 86.4 rushing yards per game, and Wilkins could enhance that figure as he earned a 71.5 run defense grade via Pro Football Focus, the ninth-best in the NFL among defensive interior linemen to play at least 500 snaps in 2023. Justin Jones, Chicago starting defensive tackle last season, is an unrestricted free agent, but he didn't add much to their pass rush.

Wilkins could help the Bears remain stout against the run while enhancing their ability to harass quarterbacks, one of Chicago's biggest areas of need. Their team quarterback pressure rate of 31.2% ranked as the third-worst in the NFL in 2023, and their 30 team sacks were the second-fewest in the entire league.

Indianapolis Colts
The Colts have money to spend, $66.1 million in effective cap space -- the sixth-most in the NFL this offseason per OverTheCap.com -- as well as a glaring need to improve at stopping the run. Indianapolis surrendered 123.8 rushing yards per game in 2023, ranking 24th out of the league's 32 teams.

Wilkins is one of the NFL's 10 best run-stuffing defensive tackles, and he could also juice the Colts pass-rush unit that generated a 32.3% quarterback pressure rate, the seventh-lowest figure in the league last season. Having Anthony Richardson entering just his second year of his rookie deal allows the Colts to have the ability to throw some cash around to supplement the rest of their roster, and Wilkins would be a sound investment given the team's needs.

Las Vegas Raiders
The Antonio Pierce era has begun in Las Vegas, and the former NFL linebacker would certainly like to see better results along his defensive front in 2024. The Raiders ranked 21st in run defense in 2023, allowing 118.5 rushing yards per game. Despite having three-time Pro Bowl edge rusher Maxx Crosby, a one-man wrecking crew, Vegas generated a below average quarterback pressure rate of 35.1%, 18th in the NFL.

Wilkins could help address both areas.

POND_OF_RED 03-05-2024 08:47 AM

I’m gonna have to see a picture of Wilkins dick from the combine before I make my decision.

Gravedigger 03-05-2024 08:52 AM

Might have to go the Wilkins route if Jones' agents are playing hardball and won't go less than $30M a year. I personally still hope that they haven't announced the Jones deal yet so it doesn't lessen the value for the Sneed trade, but they need to get that shit done this week.

chop 03-05-2024 08:53 AM

Wilkins may be to Jones as Taylor was to Brown?

Skyy God 03-05-2024 08:59 AM

Does Brett Veach look like a bitch who would overpay for performing in a contact year??

TEX 03-05-2024 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gravedigger (Post 17428481)
Might have to go the Wilkins route if Jones' agents are playing hardball and won't go less than $30M a year. I personally still hope that they haven't announced the Jones deal yet so it doesn't lessen the value for the Sneed trade, but they need to get that shit done this week.

Yep. They've had more than a year.

Gravedigger 03-05-2024 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skyy God (Post 17428493)
Does Brett Veach look like a bitch who would overpay for performing in a contact year??

Jawaan Taylor

Womble 03-05-2024 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chop (Post 17428485)
Wilkins may be to Jones as Taylor was to Brown?

It's not the best comparison. Brown sucked then, he still sucks and he will continue to suck. Just ask Joe Burrow with his deformed, gangrene throwing hand how great Orlando is.

wazu 03-05-2024 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gravedigger (Post 17428501)
Jawaan Taylor

I believe you mean Super Bowl Champion Jawaan Taylor.

Dunerdr 03-05-2024 09:56 AM

If CJ walks I probably wouldn't go after Wilkins. I'd try to get some run stuffing DT's then Draft more Spags inside outside DE's for 3rd downs. You'll never replace Jones 1 for 1 in free agency with Mahomes contract. Like the Hill trade just do everything you can to Build a roster that's Mahomes and the best 52.

neech 03-05-2024 10:08 AM

Let me do a Google search on Christian Wilkins so I can come up with an imformed decision on this matter.

Rain Man 03-05-2024 10:13 AM

I find Wilkins' personality to be kind of annoying. But hey, maybe I'd like him better next year when I have the chance to see him react to winning the Super Bowl with us.

Straight, No Chaser 03-05-2024 10:13 AM

No, no, and no. And, BTW, Miami is 'effed.

wazu 03-05-2024 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neech (Post 17428590)
Let me do a Google search on Christian Wilkins so I can come up with an imformed decision on this matter.

I've already PFF googled his name and can tell you all you need to know. PFF loves the guy, going back several years. My final, now informed verdict is he would be a nice addition if we lose Jones. Will all come down to what the price difference is between the two.

BryanBusby 03-05-2024 11:27 AM

Career year happened to coincide with Fangio using him differently and giving more rusher opportunities.

Would be ok as a CJ lite option if they can't lock down the actual CJ.

Kman34 03-05-2024 11:30 AM

Didn’t we make him look like a bitch in the playoffs???

Danguardace 03-05-2024 11:51 AM

What's Madubuike projecting at? 4 years 95? 60 guaranteed?

Maybe build Dline around him if Jones can't be retained

PHOG 03-05-2024 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danguardace (Post 17428794)
What's Madubuike projecting at? 4 years 95? 60 guaranteed?

Maybe build Dline around him if Jones can't be retained

This says the Ravens will probably tag him if they can't get a deal done, although this article is from 6 days ago.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...ne/ar-BB1j0aAG

Titty Meat 03-05-2024 12:02 PM

Isn't that the dude who said a bunch of crazy COVID conspiracy stuff? No thanks

Pasta Little Brioni 03-05-2024 12:13 PM

Bradley Chubb 5 years 110 million...are teams that brain dead? ROFL

Pasta Little Brioni 03-05-2024 12:13 PM

You realize he'll probably get a similar deal right?

kcbubb 03-06-2024 10:54 AM

Wilkins is probably $8M cheaper than Chris jones per year. Spotrac has him at $20M. I could see a 4 year $80M deal with $35M guaranteed. Again, I’d rather have Chris Jones. He’s a better player but I don’t see us paying him $30M/year and I bet he’s asking for $120M for 4 years with $60M guaranteed. I’m guessing the chiefs have offered something similar to what Spotrac has below with 3 years and $85M and $50M guaranteed.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/miami-do.../market-value/

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-c.../market-value/

pugsnotdrugs19 03-06-2024 10:56 AM

He already turns 29 in December so if it's this or that, just keep Jones.

Hoover 03-06-2024 11:29 AM

So similar money. I’m keeping Jones.

ThyKingdomCome15 03-06-2024 11:50 AM

Spend the money on the offense. We're just going to have to score more points. Add good reciever in FA and a stud first round WR it's realistic we can pull this off. The defense is still top ten without Jones or Sneed, it's just not a all-time defense like it was.

Rausch 03-06-2024 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 17428813)
Isn't that the dude who said a bunch of crazy COVID conspiracy stuff? No thanks

So did your last two presidents.

What does that have to do with his ability to bull rush?

TheGuardian 03-06-2024 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17429800)
He already turns 29 in December so if it's this or that, just keep Jones.

He's not even the dollar store version of Jones and is basically the same age and people would take him? Esp when we bitch slapped him in the playoffs. No thanks

Mecca 03-06-2024 12:45 PM

He's a very different player than Jones is, he's a lot more active in the run game but his pass rush ability isn't as good he's probably an above average pass rushing DT but he isn't gonna wreck a game.

Wilkens biggest value though is his motor in the run game a DT that has years of being in on 98 and 89 tackles is extremely active.

Hoover 03-06-2024 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17430007)
He's a very different player than Jones is, he's a lot more active in the run game but his pass rush ability isn't as good he's probably an above average pass rushing DT but he isn't gonna wreck a game.

Wilkens biggest value though is his motor in the run game a DT that has years of being in on 98 and 89 tackles is extremely active.

I like the guy. And if we didn’t have Jones I’d want to sign him. But if we are talking a couple million bucks a year difference Then I’ll keep the three time Super Bowl champion who is what a year older and going to go down as an all time great Chief

kcbubb 03-08-2024 09:12 AM

How much cheaper would Wilkins be? I’ve seen as much as $8M annually cheaper but Wilkins guaranteed money could be $20M less also?

BWillie 03-08-2024 09:35 AM

Pay Jones. Pay heeem. Pay zhat man his maanney.

Jerm 03-08-2024 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17430007)
He's a very different player than Jones is, he's a lot more active in the run game but his pass rush ability isn't as good he's probably an above average pass rushing DT but he isn't gonna wreck a game.

Wilkens biggest value though is his motor in the run game a DT that has years of being in on 98 and 89 tackles is extremely active.

I mean he did have 9 sacks this past season...I get the point though.

I'd take him in heartbeat if Jones walks.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-08-2024 11:10 AM

I don't love that he turns 29 in December, but technically this is moreso his age 28 season. Therefore Wilkins is:

- 28
- Ascending / coming off his best year
- Durable; played all 17 games the past three years
- Smart, can play all downs

Yeah, that's a Veachy profile...

There's actually some pretty impressive shit in here: https://www.miamidolphins.com/video/...ys-2023-season

Dancing bear type for sure.

Mecca 03-08-2024 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17432528)
I don't love that he turns 29 in December, but technically this is moreso his age 28 season. Therefore Wilkins is:

- 28
- Ascending / coming off his best year
- Durable; played all 17 games the past three years
- Smart, can play all downs

Yeah, that's a Veachy profile...

There's actually some pretty impressive shit in here: https://www.miamidolphins.com/video/...ys-2023-season

Dancing bear type for sure.

He's also the type the D coaches like, he's high energy, high motor and on all the time.

kcbubb 03-09-2024 10:47 AM

Agreed. If jones won’t sign a reasonable contract. Go get wilkins.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17432528)
I don't love that he turns 29 in December, but technically this is moreso his age 28 season. Therefore Wilkins is:

- 28
- Ascending / coming off his best year
- Durable; played all 17 games the past three years
- Smart, can play all downs

Yeah, that's a Veachy profile...

There's actually some pretty impressive shit in here: https://www.miamidolphins.com/video/...ys-2023-season

Dancing bear type for sure.



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