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Hog's Gone Fishin 03-05-2024 12:25 AM

Would you Trade LJ Sneed for Justin Jefferson
 
Straight up

Best corner on the market for the best WR on the market

Jefferson may command a 30mil price while I believe Sneeds tag is around 19 mil

Both teams move their player out of the conference

ptlyon 03-05-2024 12:27 AM

Larry Johnson retired years ago

BWillie 03-05-2024 12:29 AM

Chiefsplanet hates good WRs

Bump 03-05-2024 12:33 AM

well yeah

New World Order 03-05-2024 12:33 AM

Yash

FloridaMan88 03-05-2024 12:35 AM

Yes, but no way Minnesota does that trade.

Hog's Gone Fishin 03-05-2024 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17428306)
Yes, but no way Minnesota does that trade.

Sneed would shut down Jefferson so they'd be getting the better end of the deal and Minnesota historically loves Defensive players

ChiefsFanatic 03-05-2024 12:44 AM

I would, but it would be hard. If we had a second receiver on the team who was better than Watson and about as good as Rice, I would have to think about it a lot. I would still do it, though.

But, I think it's easier to find good DBs that work within a given defensive system, than it is to find wide receivers like Jefferson.

Bump 03-05-2024 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 17428314)
I would, but it would be hard. If we had a second receiver on the team who was better than Watson and about as good as Rice, I would have to think about it a lot. I would still do it, though.

But, I think it's easier to find good DBs that work within a given defensive system, than it is to find wide receivers like Jefferson.

finding a lockdown corner like Sneed is hard. But that is still a position that is quite replaceable on the Chiefs. It seems every DB we have can play good to elite football.

jd1020 03-05-2024 01:07 AM

Nope.

We just won a Superbowl with absolute dog shit at WR. Jefferson is great, but with that greatness comes a steep price tag. If Sneed is for sure getting traded, then I'll take the picks over a player a year away from commanding a 30M salary.

Nickhead 03-05-2024 01:08 AM

**** no, cause money and shit!

Chief Pagan 03-05-2024 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 17428324)
Nope.

We just won a Superbowl with absolute dog shit at WR. Jefferson is great, but with that greatness comes a steep price tag. If Sneed is for sure getting traded, then I'll take the picks over a player a year away from commanding a 30M salary.

Well yea, but do you trust the rest of the team to stay at the same level?

Signing JJ for that amount, and not signing Jones.

And in this unrealistic hypothetical, only giving up Sneed.

D gets worse, but they don't have absolute dog shit at WR and I'm not convinced that the D isn't going to get some worse even if Jones gets his third contract with KC.

Yea, I would do that*.


*If the outline of JJ's contract was worked out before the trade in order to avoid a holdout.

Chargem 03-05-2024 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 17428299)
Straight up

Best corner on the market for the best WR on the market

Jefferson may command a 30mil price while I believe Sneeds tag is around 19 mil

Both teams move their player out of the conference

In isolation, sure I would but that trade is massively in the Chiefs favour. Jefferson is probably worth around a Tyreek level trade, multiple picks including a 1st. There is no way Sneed is.

But if the Chiefs actually did this, they also lose Jones as well as Sneed.

Lose Jones and Sneed, get Jefferson.

Hog's Gone Fishin 03-05-2024 02:25 AM

We played the Vikings and Sneed allowed Jefferson 3 catches for 24 yards. I want both.

TwistedChief 03-05-2024 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 17428324)
Nope.

We just won a Superbowl with absolute dog shit at WR. Jefferson is great, but with that greatness comes a steep price tag. If Sneed is for sure getting traded, then I'll take the picks over a player a year away from commanding a 30M salary.

Yes, because even if you didn’t want to give Jefferson a bigger deal, you could then turn around and trade him for a 1. Whereas Sneed in isolation is definitely not getting you back that.

Jefferson’s value on the open market is worth a fair bit more than Sneed’s, so the answer is, obviously.

saphojunkie 03-05-2024 04:39 AM

lol at anyone who thinks that this is even a debate

PAChiefsGuy 03-05-2024 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 17428344)
We played the Vikings and Sneed allowed Jefferson 3 catches for 24 yards. I want both.

Not happening but I know what you were getting at.

I mean obviously I'd take Jefferson simply because WR is a more impactful position in today's NFL. However, Jefferson is going to be way too expensive for KC, I would think.

seamonster 03-05-2024 05:04 AM

I'll take the HOF 24 year old receiver that probably hasn't even peaked yet over a damn near 30 year old cornerback. Call me crazy.

kccrow 03-05-2024 05:17 AM

Straight up? Yeah, in my wet dreams.

In58men 03-05-2024 06:24 AM

Such an easy answer. Throw in our first round pick too.

Yes, of course.

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Womble 03-05-2024 06:58 AM

I'd rather we traded Skyy Moore and Toney for Jefferson. Get it done verch!

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RealSNR 03-05-2024 07:11 AM

Threads like this are why fans from other teams think CP is a cesspool

Hoover 03-05-2024 07:21 AM

I'm also seriously considering trading Toney for a starting CB on another team.

Gravedigger 03-05-2024 07:23 AM

If we can't afford Sneed, we can't afford JJ. Vikings put him up for trade hoping someone would give them three firsts for him, otherwise they'll keep him and try to land a rookie QB through trade up. It would take a first AND Sneed minimum, but most likely the cost will be two firsts and Sneed. Not going to happen.

In58men 03-05-2024 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Womble (Post 17428390)
I'd rather we traded Skyy Moore and Toney for Jefferson. Get it done verch!

If there’s a GM that can pull this off, it’s only Veach.

mr. tegu 03-05-2024 08:00 AM

In this completely unrealistic scenario we still have people that don’t think we should do this. Amazing.

Eleazar 03-05-2024 08:17 AM

Yes, I would also trade you a $10 for a $20

cripple creek 03-05-2024 08:20 AM

no

tredadda 03-05-2024 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17428355)
Yes, because even if you didn’t want to give Jefferson a bigger deal, you could then turn around and trade him for a 1. Whereas Sneed in isolation is definitely not getting you back that.

Jefferson’s value on the open market is worth a fair bit more than Sneed’s, so the answer is, obviously.

Initially I was going to say no because of the price tag for Jefferson, but you bring up a good point that I did not consider.

ThyKingdomCome15 03-05-2024 08:31 AM

No, this offense only features Travis Kelce and it's been that way since the beginning.

Kiimo 03-05-2024 08:34 AM

I wonder if other teams are like would you trade ______ for Mahomes?



This is the wide receiver equivalent of that. No player on our team other not named Mahomes is more valuable than Justin Jefferson. Cmon what a dumb thread

nychief 03-05-2024 08:39 AM

Sneed for a working time machine straight up.

TEX 03-05-2024 08:56 AM

Of course! Who wouldn't?

TribalElder 03-05-2024 09:06 AM

Lets trade away a lockdown corner for the chance to give a WR 30+ million a year

no thanks

sign Chris Jones or suffer

O.city 03-05-2024 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17428435)
Initially I was going to say no because of the price tag for Jefferson, but you bring up a good point that I did not consider.

The problem with thinking that way, is you aren't trading for Jefferson without an ensuing contract extension happening.

Rain Man 03-05-2024 09:19 AM

Jefferson is terrible and ineffective as a receiver. But perhaps I only think that because the only time I've seen him play is against Sneed.

IowaHawkeyeChief 03-05-2024 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17428355)
Yes, because even if you didn’t want to give Jefferson a bigger deal, you could then turn around and trade him for a 1. Whereas Sneed in isolation is definitely not getting you back that.

Jefferson’s value on the open market is worth a fair bit more than Sneed’s, so the answer is, obviously.

This is correct. I don't want to see the Chiefs pay $30 mil for a WR, the only way would be to then flip him after the trade which isn't plausable, so the answer is yes, but will never ever happen.

Rainbarrel 03-05-2024 09:30 AM

If Chiefs Planet has a got to have something only until they get it. Then move on to the next got to have. Jefferson would be the same thing after getting paid. Get me the ball, more, More, MORE!. **** HIM

tredadda 03-05-2024 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17428508)
The problem with thinking that way, is you aren't trading for Jefferson without an ensuing contract extension happening.

That’s also a very good point.

Jerm 03-05-2024 09:41 AM

We haven't even hit FA yet and people are losing their minds lol....

BleedingRed 03-05-2024 09:46 AM

I would trade snead and our first for Jefferson, I just wanna see Mahomes have a 2018 year again with a last year type finish

I want a FUN year.... Last two have been little tight

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Rainbarrel 03-05-2024 09:55 AM

MVS showing Patrick where he should have thrown the ball after he dropped it. ROOKIE Rice getting pissy in the Super Bowl because Mahomes couldn't see him because of a bad snap. Now you want a prima donna with the stats. Hell no

TribalElder 03-05-2024 09:59 AM

We need to find a WR as talented but on a rookie pay scale

Hog's Gone Fishin 03-05-2024 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17428397)
Threads like this are why fans from other teams think CP is a cesspool


Thanks, much appreciated !

BigRedChief 03-05-2024 10:46 AM

Like others the only scenario is make the trade then flip him for a higher draft pick than Sneed will bring. We just cant pay him enough to keep him happy.

BWillie 03-05-2024 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 17428399)
I'm also seriously considering trading Toney for a starting CB on another team.

I assume this is a joke. You probably couldn't even get a 7th for Toney right now.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-05-2024 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 17428362)
lol at anyone who thinks that this is even a debate

You are right it's no debate. You absolutely do not deal Sneed for JJ. It goes against EVERYTHING Veach has done and literally ****s the team cap wise and on defense by losing Jones with this move as well. Essentially it would be Chris Jones and Sneed for JJ and a 30 million dollar deal

Pasta Little Brioni 03-05-2024 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 17428552)
I would trade snead and our first for Jefferson, I just wanna see Mahomes have a 2018 year again with a last year type finish

I want a FUN year.... Last two have been little tight

Getting eviscerated twice in the playoffs by Bradys corpse was fun to you?

Titty Meat 03-05-2024 12:26 PM

CP capologist are so ****ing cringe

redfan 03-05-2024 12:29 PM

No, the price is too damn high!

Megatron96 03-05-2024 06:28 PM

Obviously would never happen, however;

yes 100% would do this. Travis is 34, will turn 35 this coming season. And he's still the only consistent man-beater on the team. And we might be watching his retirement speech next offseason. Or in 24 months. Either way, we need to replace his production, in particular his ability to beat man coverage and draw double-teams, because right now we have exactly zero receivers that have that capability on any kind of consistent basis, much less week in/week out.

So, yeah, you make this trade and secure a player that can reproduce some/most of that production, and draw consistent double-teams, no brainer.

Especially when Veach/Spags have been so good at bringing in and developing DBs from the get-go. No, they probably can't fully replace Sneed's contributions, but I'd bet a house payment they could find ways to replace a lot of it.



$30 million/yr is a ton of cash though. You'd hope Veach could sign him to a slightly more team-friendly contract in the mid-$20s.

kccrow 03-05-2024 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 17428836)
CP capologist are so ****ing cringe

Sorry to disappoint ya pa. :P

Pasta Little Brioni 03-05-2024 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 17428836)
CP capologist are so ****ing cringe

Capturbators?

kccrow 03-05-2024 09:29 PM

What about something that maybe could have traction?

Taylor Decker for Sneed?

Decker turns 30 in August and is headed into a contract year. Would be a solid stop-gap for a few years at LT. The Lions could move Sewell to LT.

Just a thought, not saying its right.

BleedingRed 03-05-2024 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni (Post 17428821)
Getting eviscerated twice in the playoffs by Bradys corpse was fun to you?

I guess you stopped reading after 2018…..

In58men 03-05-2024 09:49 PM

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BleedingRed 03-05-2024 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 17429394)
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Holy shit can we get to 1k posts to make this shit happen?!

Titty Meat 03-05-2024 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 17429322)
Sorry to disappoint ya pa. :P

You still please me in other ways :)

But seriously even though this will never happen a Mahomes/Jefferson/Kelce/Pacheco offense would be unstoppable

In58men 03-05-2024 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 17429426)
You still please me in other ways :)

But seriously even though this will never happen a Mahomes/Jefferson/Kelce/Pacheco offense would be unstoppable

It can if we hit 1000 posts you dumbass!

Stryker 03-05-2024 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 17429402)
Holy shit can we get to 1k posts to make this shit happen?!

Trade for what? Their 1st round pick? I doubt but their 2nd maybe?

Hog's Gone Fishin 03-05-2024 10:47 PM

THIS THREAD JUST GOT REAL!

SUCK IT REALSNR

Hog's Gone Fishin 03-05-2024 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 17429429)
Trade for what? Their 1st round pick? I doubt but their 2nd maybe?

What's their salary cap situation ????


Sneed is a top 10 talent if he were drafted today, he's worth a 1

threebag 03-05-2024 10:52 PM

I’d trade 95 to keep 38

Titty Meat 03-05-2024 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 17429427)
It can if we hit 1000 posts you dumbass!

Let's gooo

BleedingRed 03-06-2024 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by threebag (Post 17429441)
I’d trade 95 to keep 38

We have depth at DB and we draft well for that position

Rainbarrel 03-06-2024 03:29 AM

You can put good in the Vikings. What you take out is fail

kccrow 03-06-2024 04:32 AM

I hope like hell some random stroke of luck lands us Jefferson for Sneed but I'm just trying to compute what incentive Kwesi Adofo-Mensah has to do it unless he really hates his job.

1) They might not get Kirk Cousins back in the door and now they are looking at having to move off of 12 to get a top QB if they want one in this year's class.

2) They are losing a guy that likely will end up a 1st ballot HoF player while gaining one that most likely will not come close.

3) The best they can gain in draft pick compensation is going to be late first-round selections. If you're giving up a HoF-caliber player, you probably want to get an actual haul, and do so from a team that at least may give you a middle-of-the-round pick.

4) The fan base should ****ing castrate you publicly for still having question marks in the secondary after you spent a 1st round pick on Lewis Cine at SS, an early 2nd on Andrew Booth at CB, and a 4th on Akayleb Evans at CB in 2022, a 3rd rounder on Mekhi Blackmon at CB and 4th rounder on Jay Ward at FS in 2023, and spent FA capital to bring in Byron Murphy at CB last year, much less if you make this move.

5) Meanwhile the guy hasn't exactly helped put them in a better cap situation, which is supposed to be his forte, and they now have to replace 80% of their front 7.

The guy's ticket is already punched if he doesn't ****ing nail this draft. He shouldn't likely dump rocket fuel on the embers.

I tell ya what, if the guy is this dumb, I'll send him my 1st and 2nd this year, my 1st and 2nd next year, Sneed, Toney, and a box of chocolates for Darrisaw and Jefferson. I'll even give him a Christmas card with a scratch-off in it come December.

Sassy Squatch 03-06-2024 05:02 AM

Why the **** WOULDN'T you? They're in completely different tiers as assets. Sneed MIGHT get a first and that's if there's a competitive bidding war. Jefferson is getting 2 firsts and probably more.

SHOWTIME 03-06-2024 05:16 AM

yes, if you can make it work under the cap. an elite WR is more valuable than an elite CB.

AussieChiefsFan 03-06-2024 05:53 AM

I just don't think Minnesota would go for a straight up trade. Surely they'd want a little extra?

Okchief80 03-06-2024 06:31 AM

I would easily do this for the one reason that it would make Mahomes happy. Mahomes had to deal with some crap wr play last year. He would be drooling to start the season with Jefferson.

In58men 03-06-2024 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan (Post 17429514)
I just don't think Minnesota would go for a straight up trade. Surely they'd want a little extra?

Absolutely, you give them our 1st round pick too.

MIAdragon 03-06-2024 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 17429530)
Absolutely, you give them our 1st round pick too.

And then some.

In58men 03-06-2024 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 17429532)
And then some.

I wouldn’t be opposed

Veach has knack for DBs, he find another hidden gem in this draft. There is absolutely no reason to not trust him.

RealSNR 03-06-2024 07:18 AM

Some of you are sexually attracted to WRs. It's weird.


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