***2024 NFL Combine Thread***
 

Bout that time fellas. Post all things combine related

Saw a note somewhere that the Chiefs brass and Jones camp are supposed to re engage talks at the combine.

WHO ELSE IS HORNEEEEY?

Wow. Legit chance the guy falls IMO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I like Brock Bowers plenty, and we get a bit too height and weight-ist with these things sometimes (especially on a prospect with the playmaking evidence he&#39;s provided), but you&#39;d sure hope he&#39;s at least 6&#39;2&quot; from the tight end position. <br><br>(<a href="https://t.co/H6CHlNGkhG">https://t.co/H6CHlNGkhG</a>) <a href="https://t.co/LDe8qFe7bW">pic.twitter.com/LDe8qFe7bW</a></p>&mdash; Matt Clapp (@DaBearNecess) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaBearNecess/status/1762207907226194400?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Like I said, looked tiny next to old retired Gronk. I was immediately concerned when I saw that pic.

Strongly suggest all other teams pass him up

I hope that Brock Bowers’s height allows Marvin Harrison Jr to fall to 32.

There is 0 chance Bowers falls to 32, that’s for sure.

So much fake BS coverage out there on everything.

I'm a casual fan, but everytime I watched him play the announcers basically made it seem like he was the biggest ****ing TE ever to play. Just a monster.

Guess not

Fine, somebody else can have his shrimp ass.

Especially the Bengals ;)

Ok you draftabulating geniuses , which receiver and/or tight end are we taking early and late?

We're revamping this receiver group above all else and you people know it, the defense is mostly locked in... give us a couple receivers, and Kelce's heir apparent while you're at it

Brock Bowers falls to 20ish and Veach makes a move!

He sucks anyway.

Kelce shits bigger than Bowers.

I feel pretty confident that one of Troy Frankin or Xavier Worthy will be a Chief.

This can't really be him...

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Whose wiener do we hope falls out of their shorts this year?

Can somebody just tell me who to get all horny about so I can watch the Chiefs not draft him for three rounds before he gets taken and then I can be so ****ing pissed and then he sucks?

Yes, that's him looking like Hunter Renfrow.

Dude looks like he's with the IT department of the Combine, not a 1st round prospect. LMAO

Oof...

In all honesty I think Noah Gray is 6'3." That's only an inch taller than Brock. IDK.

At this point CP needs to look at bringing in Bowers to fix the server when it shits the bed.

Why is he listed everywhere at 6'4"? Lying?

What colleges list guys as is usually very generous.

PFF has Brock Bowers listed at 6'4." Gronk is a full 6'7" if memory serves me correctly. So maybe it's just a bad angle? Gronk is three inches taller anyhow.

Gronk was 6'6 265 (JFC), Kelce is a legit 6'5 250.

They are some of the greatest to ever play, Kelce being the greatest, but still.

Gronk and Kelce look big next to NFL talent. Bowers doesn't look big next to college guys.

Marvin Harrison Jr is doing odd things. Schefter Tweeted he's not doing the combine, he's not going through an agent, and he may not be at his Pro Day either.

My oh my...

I get it. Dude has absolutely nothing to prove at this point. He's the #1 player in the draft.

Yeah, he can only hurt himself by doing this stuff.

Caleb Williams

Bowers' arms are ludicrously long though, which may mitigate him not being as tall.

He's not a better prospect than Harrison Jr.

He's a QB, so he just gets a boost because of positional value. The Bears wish they had a franchise QB so they could just take Harrison Jr.

Who's the babe in the khaki pants?

Yup. He’s viewed as a generational type of talent. The combine, pro day etc…. will not change that one bit.

That's a horrible picture of him.

It looks like Gronk is tutoring a kid from the Special Olympics.

Probably right, but years ago the media was crushing Calvin Johnson for doing just that. So he threw on someone else’s shoes and ran the 40.

He IS a kid from the Special Olympics

Id imagine his dad’s pretty contract savvy. And it’s a rookie contract. There’s only so much wiggle room. If you have someone who understands the system and isn’t taking 5% of your money why go find someone to take the money?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Happy Combine Week.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/tradition?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#tradition</a> <a href="https://t.co/j1tULkUfIg">pic.twitter.com/j1tULkUfIg</a></p>&mdash; Peter Schrager (@PSchrags) <a href="https://twitter.com/PSchrags/status/1762277874994700372?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 27, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This is a perfect reason why the retirement stuff was always weird and dumb. They just came off back to back Sb wins and they're......grinding at the combine.

They're just wired differently. It's just what they do.

(Someone needs to post DJ's data/take on TE height. It seems to apply here)

Also,

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LOOKS LIKE THREEPEAT'S BACK ON THE MENU BOYS

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Can somebody create a “2024 Free Agency” thread, please. Thanks in advance

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It's not really that weird. Anything he does in terms of workouts and running can't really help his stock but he sure can hurt it. As it stands he's going top 5 but if he has an off day and runs a 4.6 or something he could really hurt his position.

That was my joke, ass.

I knew I heard it somewhere already LMAO

Are you happy about that?

I would spend pick 32 on Franklin, as long as something crazy didn't happen like Brian Thomas Jr. or Keon Coleman fell that far. I don't think there is anyway in hell that happens, though. Obviously.

I would take Worthy in the second round, depending on what we do in free agency, and what we do with our first pick. I know players like Williams in Detroit and Smith in Philly have shown that speed can make up for the lack of size, but it would be hard to draft him and not have him return kicks, and he only weighs like 160 pounds, and that's a lot of injury potential on returns.

I know some have already said they hate him, but AD Mitchell would be a very good compliment to Rice. He is big, fairly fast, but he is a really smooth route runner, and could potentially learn how to eat up zone from Kelce.

I was high on Xavier Legette in the second/third until he measured at the Senior Bowl. Only 6'1" with small hands, instead of the 6'3" that South Carolina listed him as.

I can also see BV taking Corley, Polk, or even McConkey in the second.

It will be interesting to see combine numbers for Brenden Rice.

I would not hate spending a late round pick on Luke McCaffrey, depending on how the rest of the draft went. He started his college career as a QB, and Andy and Veach seem to like former QBs, and it's not conventional, but I think he would be a great weapon if he could kinda take the McKinnon (former QB) role in the offense. I know he is listed as WR, but I think he could just be a general weapon catching the ball. Also, he seems to have great hands.

Also, Anthony Gould would be a great last pick, again, depending on how the draft went. We need a reliable returner, and he was an All-American returning kicks. If we fill our needs before our last pick, and someone crazy isn't available, it might make sense.

They deserve a St. Elmo dinner.

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Veach is going to be aggressive. That all want that first 3-peat.

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Probably reading into it too much, but someone asked about Chris & Sneed, and Veach said "he's at the top of the list" referring to Chris and continuing on.

Again, probably nothing, but for those trying to read tea leaves for FA, there ya go.

Goal is to resign both Jones & Sneed, he anticipates having to use the tag, but hopes to get a deal that makes sense with both guys.

That means tagging Sneed, there ain't no way they are tagging Jones at 30+ million.

Basically, one of them will be here at worst.

I read somewhere that a league official referred to the huge bump in the salary cap as The Taylor Swift Surplus.

It would be amazing if Kelce dating Swift helped us keep both Jones and Sneed, and led to the 3-peat.

I still think it ends up being a tag & trade for Sneed. He was elite this past season, but you don't pay future money for past results, you pay for what you project their performance will be throughout the contract.

Sneed's value for securing big dollars will never be higher, and at the same time, his trade value will likely not be higher. No one would blame him for playing hardball to secure as much money as possible - he has the rings.

We have McDuffie and some young guys already waiting in the wings at CB. If Veach can somehow finagle a late 1st (unlikely) from an NFC team, that's a no-brainer. More likely is a 2nd and change.

But who knows - maybe he goes all-in and pays both guys. It just doesn't seem like a Veach move.

That was always going to be the case.

Sneed probably has 4 more high end years in him he'll then be a good player for 2-3 after that.

If you want to trade him you're drafting a CB really high because having 2 CB's they trust out there is a big reason the defense works.

I just don't see a team wanting to give up draft capital and handout a big contract after a trade.

There are a few teams that might do it, high end CB's are extremely valuable.

Spags trusts the CBs he has. And why would we have to take a CB high when they've proven they can find them anywhere?

A team like the Lions would...and absolutely should trade for a player like Sneed. They need defensive help, have the cap space and are a playoff team.

With the extra cap space this year, a team might be more willing to do the trade a pick AND pay for a guy.

Thing is, man there's just rookies coming out and playing well every year.

I don't think the Lions are really in "all in" mode to do it.

Because that person might be Trent McDuffie.

You don't think he trusts Josh Williams? Here's what he did against the Bengals k in the playoffs when Sneed got concussed on the 2nd play of the game:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs rookie Joshua Williams in the AFC Championship Game:<br><br>🔴 47 Coverage Snaps<br>🔴 2 Catches Allowed<br>🔴 1 Interception<br>🔴 9.2 Passer Rating Allowed <a href="https://t.co/SUjFsn4Uuw">pic.twitter.com/SUjFsn4Uuw</a></p>&mdash; PFF College (@PFF_College) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_College/status/1620113864586051584?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 30, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

We've started Jaylen Watson for a stretch of games. We've started Josh Williams in big games.

They're not dominant but they're solid trustworthy corners.

I think they trust Williams, Watson I dunno though and if you do that both of them are on the field in Nickel downs which is going to weaken the coverage.

I think they very smartly and strategically mix Williams and Watson based on matchups and coverages, if you lose that one or both could get exposed to a degree.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs GM Brett Veach gives an update on Chris Jones and the negotiations. <br><br>Says it’s his belief both want Jones in KC, adds “he’s at the top of the list” <a href="https://t.co/0AVHN31zjR">pic.twitter.com/0AVHN31zjR</a></p>&mdash; Matt Verderame (@MattVerderame) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattVerderame/status/1762529357061324965?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 27, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Seems they may have had this figured out for a while?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> GM Brett Veach spoke a bit about how his staff has scenario sheets they draw up for free agency. If they&#39;re unable to re-sign one of Chris Jones, L&#39;Jarius Sneed, or both, they&#39;ve got contingencies in place that they start to go through. That includes trades &amp; the draft.</p>&mdash; Charles Goldman (@goldmctNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/goldmctNFL/status/1762541252967354495?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 27, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That's epic man. :thumb:

PFF has Williams graded just as high as Sneed on the year. Of course Sneed has more snaps.

I truly hope they draft him.

My gut right now says we sign Chris and trade LJ and sell it as doing him a favor and getting him max pay from someone else

Just like Dee Ford, but a better player

This would be ideal. Just feels like we should get something if we're going to lose one of these guys, and not a 3rd round comp pick at best.

Unless they're throwing up smoke screens, pass catcher is like 5th on their list right now. They need Oline and DT, then CB.

Why?