Division title up for grabs now
 

Oakland's schedule:

@ Green Bay
@ Houston
Detroit
Chargers
Cincinnati
@ New York
@ Kansas City
Tennessee
Jacksonville
@ Los Angeles
@Denver

Oakland is mediocre, but their schedule after the next three is pretty pathetic. They could finish 10-6 or better.

Chiefs winning it all

Jets are getting tougher, Chargers will improve as they get healthier.

Raiders go 8-8 or so.

No.

Not this shit again.

Division title is in the bag.

The Raiders don't even have to beat anyone respectable to finish 10-6.

And if they steal one of the others, it could get really dicey.

ROFL

They will piss down their leg.

Your offense is too talented I don't see the Chiefs missing a beat. You may drop one game against the Packers.

Of they could drop a couple they shouldn’t and run themselves out of the race.

The division really revolves around Mahomes.

Someone bump this after the Raiders lose their next 3

They probably will.

Unfortunately, they'll still have 7 turds left.

Lmao.

Derek Carr has literally never stepped up in big situations. They will shit the bed while Mahomes is out and by the time he gets back they’ll have missed their chance.

I'm on it

If you gave the Raiders Mahomes for the four games he misses for the Chiefs they still wouldn't take the division.

I could see a scenario where they are leading the division when we meet. And then they wouldn't be anymore.

Heh, nobodys winning the AFCW for the next 15 years except KC.

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Maybe. The coin flips are GB, DET, and LAR. GB's run D isn't what we were led to believe, but Aaron Rodgers is Aaron Rodgers. DET is proving to be a lot better than people thought at the beginning of the season. They will be a tough out for the Raiders. The Rams can be explosive, but have under-performed so far. That defense can be the best in the league, but they are just as unpredictable as their offense in recent weeks.

The game that might tilt things is the Lions game. The teams are built in a similar way, based on a tough run game with good TEs, and punishing defenses. It might come down to how many injuries DET inflicts on the Raiders. And the Raiders are thin in several positions to begin with.

Chiefs are going to beat the raiders like they stole a loaded cigarillo in prison.

Oakland isn't doing shit.
These morons got excited because Mahomes went down.

While thankfully it won't be the case, a Matt Moore-led Chiefs team would still be able to outlast the shitty-ass Raiders.

@LA is the chargers B

Back to the cellar please.

so...you DO know that the Rams play in the NFC...right??

This.

I see 5 certain losses on that schedule.

Raiders might not win until Sandy eggo or Cincinnati.

Don’t underestimate Gruden’s ability to take things from bad to worse when they start losing more and more games.

They finish between 7-9 and 9-7.

Raiders of the lost.....
You finish
GO

AB is gonna have some big games down the stretch too

The Raiders are coached by Gruden.

Not happening.

He left
Had cold feet

Raiders go 8-8 at best.

Mahome will be back and tyreek is tyreek and oakland a joke.

The Oak/GB game will be an interesting litmus test to see where the fugtards are.

you seem stupid..8-8 is the best you can hope for

Raiders gonna Raider

How does the OP not have red rep?

CP, I am disappoint.

Ah right. I still think they're in SD.

Ignore my comments about LA then. Right now the Chargers look terrible and I think the Raiders can probably beat them with one hand tied behind their back.

Refer to my post above. I still think of the Chargers as being in SD.

In your defense Megatron96, it's kind of dumb to list them once as the Chargers and the second time as LA.

I think Bengals and Broncos are easy wins and the Chargers probably split with the Raiders. 7-8 wins is much more likely.

:shake:

Loon.

OP, your mom is up for grabs.

The deal is, these game will have more significance if Oakland is actually playing for something. There will be much more pressure on every one. I'm not sure Oakland is ready for that.

I know people here get off on being sophomoric and all, but what's so controversial about this?

Last week the narrative was "Mahomes has no help--we suck! We won't make da playoffs, worst D in NFL history!!"

Now we're not worried about losing him for four games? No one's worried about the defense anymore? All is fixed? Because...they put Flacco on the ground?

The only thing being suggested here is that a semi-decent Oakland might be able to beat some shitbags on their schedule. Again, they don't have to beat a single good team to finish 10-6.

No, but they do have to beat teams when the games count more and that is more pressure. A team needs to learn how to win, before it can count on winning games that it needs to win. I don't think Oakland passes that test and they'll lose a couple that they "should / could" win. I can see them losing several out of Jets, Lions, Chargers, Titans, Jags.

Probably, but they might steal one or two that they shouldn't win.

Regardless, I can envision a scenario where KC finishes 8-8 or 9-7, with Moore at the helm for a month, and games in New England and Chicago down the stretch.

Only way that happens is IF KC loses every game while Mahomes is out. If Mahomes misses 4 games & KC goes 2-2 and loses to NE & Chi - that's 10-6 right there. VERY Doable.

I think 10-6 wins the West and will certainly get a WC b/c the AFC as a whole isn't very deep. 9-7 has a decent chance this year of getting a WC.

Never underestimate Gruden’s ability to underdeliver

You're saying you can't see a scenario where Moore drops 3 of 4 and Mahomes loses in New England and Chicago? That's 9-7.

And what if the Chargers get healthy and get their shit together? Those games may not be gimmes.

Color me concerned when we're likely to have a disadvantage at QB and defense in four straight games. Unless the defense continues what they started Thursday.

Sure I can see that IF I look pretty far. I also see a not-so-good AFC West and I don't think any of the pseudo contenders will completely cash in on KC's misfortune. I've already explained how I think it goes for Oakland. I feel the same way about the Chargers, because that's who they are.

They could also lose out

It just seems like people here flip flop on a weekly basis. Last week the sky was falling. This week everyone's beating their chests and confident in the defense after beating a trash team. Kinda bizarre.

With all the injuries, we may not have a talent advantage in any of the next four games. Yet it's a unanimous feeling that they'll go at least 2-2.

People who normally have zero faith in Reid must suddenly have a lot of faith in Reid.

Maybe I read the OP wrong.

I was only looking at the question in terms of capabilities, not likelihoods, or historical precedents. Just the capabilities of the Raiders and their opponents as constructed this season. Not whether the Raiders would, just could.

Bottom line, they've played enough good games to make me think that they could have a winning season, and MAYBE win 10 games.

It might have been had we lost in Denver.

But there`s Carr........mediocre player of the year at best

Yea he only last week drove 92 yards against the best D in football for the win

True but he rode on Jacobs shoulders....Carr is consistently inconsistent. I think he poops the bed tomorrow and makes his eyeliner run

Every successful QB in the NFL has a good RB... Yall got a good RB but you would rather have PM running for your first downs... so foolish


If the Chiefs would have mixed up that offense a bit there would not be a team in the NFL that could hang with you.



You either score or you punt too fast no long grind em out drives to keep that shitty D off the field.

I think this is where in invite raider fans to tongue mine my mud vein.

go tell a mod I posted this



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That shitty D held the Raiders to 10 points at home.

If this last game is any indication, Honey Badger's little pep talk may have kicked them into another gear.

And the Chiefs don't run because the line isn't effective at opening holes, at least with the injuries. But frankly, with a healthy set of players, it doesn't matter. They can drop 30-40 on anyone regardless, as we saw in the first month.

Oakland will probably need to beat us at Arrowhead for the crown.

That's not happening.

And we held you scoreless for 3 qtrs as well and don't say KC let up because that don't happen in this rivalry.


We were blasted in the 2nd qtr, Your D knew we had to pass to get back in it. D is alot easier when you know whats coming. it was some beautiful passes in that qtr by PM

Very young team but they can beat anybody on any field in any time zone. You guys are good but we already beat teams that beat you guys too this year. Don't say it can't happen

That didn't stop teams from raking in points last year.

And those passes from inside hte pocket?

We don't have an elite pass rushing D but we are getting better. Week one this team was very raw, they are still raw but getting better every week. I am not saying we are playoff contenders but I see a helluva lot improvement

Andy Reid lets up in playoff games, but not against the Raiders? ROFL

In seriousness, why would Reid care about the Raiders?

They absolutely would have scored more if needed.

OK Nub

Right, it's far more likely that they got shut down after a 2nd quarter blitzkrieg.

You seriously think that Reid is going to change up his trademark approach because it's the Raiders? Btw, are you forgetting that Gruden is a good friend of his?

If anything, he probably has to force himself not to look ahead to the next game.

WTF? The Chiefs blew your doors completely off in one qtr., in YOUR house, and put you to sleep. And you come back with this? Raider Fan...ROFL

I bet it doesn't even come down to that. Oakland is going to lose games they "should / could" win, because they don't know how to win consistently when it means something. There is way more pressure to win when you're expected to, and actually are playing for something, than there is when you're just playing to improve. Watch...

Either the Chargers are shit and both the Chiefs and Raiders should have gimmies, or they get it together and are tough games for both teams. If the Chargers are tough then that's only 8 wins for the Raiders, you can't have it both ways.

I still think it comes down to the Chiefs & Bolts when all is said and done. It's a LONG season.

If Mahomes would have not gotten injured though, the Chiefs would have run away with it.

Beat the Packers tomorrow & you’ll get my attention.

Actually, if you review the game, it's obvious that the Chiefs tried to score with their first two possessions of the second half, and then at about the 6:30 mark of the 3rd quarter they quite clearly took their foot off the gas.

Which is what Andy has done in, oh, I don’t know...EVERY game he’s ever had a nice lead?

But no, it’s different during Raider week, and Gruden’s staff just made brilliant adjustments.

What’s with these AFC West fans? On the Denver board, somebody called the Thursday night game our Super Bowl. Shit you not. More like the “We can beat you with a Mahomes tied behind our back” Bowl.

At this point, I’d be pissed off to lose a single game vs the AFC West.

Btw, didn’t one of those two drives include the 60 yd bomb to Hardman that was wiped off due to a weak penalty?

Yeah, Andy's not a "run up the score" kind of coach. He's never been a Sean Payton kind of "let's rub your nose in it" guy. I think he literally does the math, figures out about how long it's going to take for a team to score three times or whatever, and then after the clock ticks below that time, he goes into cruise mode or whatever.

I don't really mind it that much; he's right most of the time and it saves wear and tear on the players. But I do wish he'd "stick the dagger in" with that extra score before he went into cruise mode. It would be better for my blood pressure anyway . . .