Our next Defensive Coordinator - who do you want?
 

Who would be the best fit to help us win quick?

A box of hair can do better

Bowles has to up there

Could and should have been Pettine smh.

I hope it's some young hot shot with a crazy ass scheme.

If either one of them are fired? Ron Rivera or Sean McDermott.

Del rio

Are we getting a new defensive coordinator? That should be the question.

Kevin Ross as well.

Most likely an Andy former coach, but we need to look at someone from the Ravens IMO.

I'd take Clay at this point

One has to think Sutton will be forced into early retirement, especially if we lose the same way in the playoffs.

No, we are not.
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Bob Sutton.

If Chiefs get to the AFCCG (first time under Reid) I am not so sure if Sutton gets canned.

****ing anyone else on earth

Ed Donatell please.

Fangio's D is perfect for us and is actually effective in today's NFL.

I don't really love it....
McDermott's D will frustrate the living hell out of us. It's unaggressive zone D which I don't trust to be consistently great for us.

I wanted Mike Zimmer's "Jimmy Johnson" scheme, which makes Rivera a nice fit... but I don't think that has looked so hot with this year's new offense-friendly rules.

The scheme that's killing it right now is the Under scheme. And Fangio runs it out of a 3-4. We need to be running that scheme yesterday.

I don’t know about force. Can’t really force a guy into retirement.

On the other hand, he should do the right thing and resign like GRob did.

At least, if he had some class and could give up his ego a little bit and resign out of town because Andy is not ****ing firing him which is frustrating. I hope he resigns and create a little bit of justice for the fans that way.

Sure you can. K-State just did it.

Either force him in to retirement or put cyanide in his ensure, either way works.

Get me someone, anyone. And get me someone while I'm waiting.

Did they? Okay didnt know you could do that.

Billay

"Kansas city Police chief announces that Kansas city Chiefs defensive coordinator Bob Sutton was found dead with 12 bullet wounds. It was "the worst case of suicide he's ever seen" he said."

Greg Schiano
 

Ohis State Co-Defensive coordinator Greg Schiano is looking around now that Day has taken over for Urban Meyer.

Unfortunately as an OSU and Chiefs fan, These defenses look amazingly similar with poor LB play, and a defensive backfield that cannot locate the ball in the air, and commit tons of OPI penalties.

As s fan, it remarkable how OSU and KC seasons have tracked together.

In any case, should Schiano’s name come up, I would not be happy....

Kris Richard.

We're sorta hoping here that Vance Joseph is available to interview.

Keith Richards

Me, I'll do it... sure as hell couldn't be any worse

I want whoever is the most opposite of Bob Sutton that we can find. So I'll go with a young girl from Sri Lanka who has a non-palindromic first name and a philosophy of rushing the passer and aggressive downhill run defense.

With big tits.

Marvin Lewis if the Bengals fire him

I want a fangio guy

I haven't seen Bob with his shirt off so I'll trust you on that one.

Agreed. Ed Donatell not only has solid DC credentials. He also is practically fangios right hand man.

Reid knowing Nagy means we have a connection.

I think Ray Lewis would be great.

The guys on sirius radio all continue to stress that Sutton is a good coach and he's had our defense top 5-10 for about 5 years. Our players in the secondary are just bad. We just need to bring in some secondary talent this off season.

Grob?

Plenty of evidence proves Sutton is in fact not great. He's not 💯 to blame, but there's also something to be said for getting a new face with a fresh message to change things up. Get a new coordinator asap and hope Veach can pull his head out of his ass and not draft complete crap on defense.

Looking Back, Sutton started in 2013

Based on defensive points allowed our defensive rank:

2013 5th
2014 2nd
2015 3rd
2016 7th
2017 15th
2018 28th

So whats changed?

Mike Zimmer if Minnesota fires him.

Open the phone book. Pick a name. If it's not Bob Sutton, hire them.

Ray Lewis would be great. Players would be scared of getting murdered. Motivation.

****ing almost anyone else on earth

In a sense you have to understand that we don't run down the clock like we did with Alex. We score fast, thus giving more possessions to our defense. Our defensive roster is weaker than it was three or four years ago, but we're playing a different type of offense and putting more pressure on our defense. I don't think it's Sutton's fault completely, but someone's head has to roll and his head is prime for the chopping block after six years of subpar playoff failures.

Defensive holding rules. His preferred scheme is really badly suited for the new nfl. I don't love many of the zone Ds, which is most of Reid's tree, for that reason.

If the ravens decide to move on from harbaugh and he doesn't immediately land somewhere and swoop up his staff I'd like to pick up Wink Martindale from the ravens. It obvious the shit D we have plays better when we are aggressive, yet consistently Buttons plays soft and lets teams march down the field. I want crazy schemes and aggressiveness.

:clap:

I'll throw my hat in the ring, for substantially less than Sutton. I have no coaching experience, but at least I can tell these guys to ****ING BLITZ AND TACKLE!

We are winning the division now and playing better teams.

Also, he doesn’t have pro bowlers at every secondary and linebacker spot anymore.

LMAO

Carl Pelini

Gunther Cunningham... :)

can you even imagine!??

They will not Fire Sutton. They will again blame the lack of quality players on that side of the ball. It is very easy to understand that position as well. We have LOTS of starters/backups that are shit on that side of the ball.
Parker, Sorensen, Murray, Scandrick, Nelson, Ragland, Hitchens, Kpass
Everyone of us knew coming in to this season that it was going to take more than one year to turn this D around.

has anyone mentioned Jim Bob Cooter yet?

I have no idea if he's good, but....well.....you know......

He's an offensive coordinator, just an FYI.

If Castillo an OL coach can be a DC then Reid could entertain Cooter as a DC too.

Juan Castillo holds the distinction as probably the only assistant coach Andy Reid has ever fired in his 20 years as a HC... that's how bad he was as a DC.

Heh........STILL better than Sutton! :)

I don't think Wink Martindale is going anywhere, he was just promoted this year to DC. Before him was Dean Pees who's now with the Titans, he was gone because he sucked. However, the Ravens defensive coordinator before him during their run up and win in Super Bowl XXXVII was Chuck Pagano, that how he got the head coaching job. It obviously didn't work out, but he should be about ready to get back into coaching as an assistant, he a really good DC. There was talk he was coming back to the Ravens, but I guess he wanted some time off, so they promoted Martindale.

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Chuck Pagano

What changed?

He no longer has Justin Houston and Eric Berry being the best players in the league at their positions nor does he have a unique talent like Sean Smith that uniquely fits his scheme.

Basically without perfect personnel Sutton sucks. But it's a bad thread because Reid won't fire him until they have a losing season.

There's another way...

I don't think Sutton gets fired. I'm being way too optimistic but Reid sounded tentatively supportive of Sutton in the offseason. There's a part of me that thinks they let Sutton stay on as lame duck until they get personnel to change to a 4-3. I think Reid gets Sutton and Emmett Thomas to retire.

Sutton was exposed last year when his DBs got flagged on every play for playing too aggressive. It was the rules changes that ruined Sutton, not lack of talent. He's fielded good defenses before with garbage when you consider how often our superstars couldn't stay on the field.

Berry seemed to make a difference during the 1st half. The 2nd half he didn't play and look what happened.

Your entire defense shouldn't hinge on one player.

Eric Berry appeared to be interviewing for the position last night.

Anybody but Sutton #FireBobSutton

"Bend don't break" is and always was a major red flag. WTF is up with that bullshit? Our DC tells the players to "Bend don't break".

**** That

**** THAT

I want our DC to tell our guys "GO KILL THAT MOTHER EFFER"

Horse Shit.

One thing I noticed last night, there's no pre snap movement or confusion by our defense. Just so basic. Our offense is miles ahead of other teams with this concept. Why can't our defense do the same. The Ravens confused the hell out of Pat.

Who is or isn't the defensive coordinator is pretty irrelevant when the front office has been comically inept at identifying talent coming out of college over the last half decade.

Stephen A Smith was talking about this and he suggested Bum Phillips.

Patrick Mahomes
Kareem Hunt
Chris Jones
Tyreek Hill
Marcus Peters
Mitch Morse
Steven Nelson
Dee Ford
Zach Fulton
LDT
Eric Fisher
Travis Kelce

That list is not comically inept.
Your reaction and overstatement is very comical though.

Todd Bowles when he’s canned
Sean McDermott if he’s canned
Vance Joseph if he's canned
Chuck Pagano
Gregg Williams if he doesn’t the Browns job
Mike Pettine if Green Bay cleans house
Teryl Austin
Ray Horton

Notice commonality on all but three of those names on that list?

Thanks for proving the point though and it's obvious me forgetting to put the word "defensive" in front of talent didn't really hinder your understanding of it.

A few ughs in there. I don't want retreads. I don't want a tree candidate unless they're running a defense that is built for the new league rules. For me... Pettine is more of the same. Williams and McDermott are WAY too dependent on their secondary. If people hate us not blitzing, McDermott will drive everybodh crazy.

How much of that list is defense?

Chris Jones is awesome

Nelson is an average CB at best.

Peters is overrated and no longer with the team

BRILLIANT defensive scouting by Dorsey/Veach!!!

Bob Sutton is fine. It's just one game. Damn fairies.

I'd take Wilson Phillips at this point.

Ray Horton or Rex Ryan.

Mo has always said williams will never coach in KC

Mo? Who are you referring to?

In the current NFL, a team needs a DC who can adapt to all the inventive passing games that are popping up in the league.

Teach and Develop players
Fit the scheme to match the player's strengths
Able to adapt during the game