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vailpass 12-06-2018 12:46 PM

PC Maintenance-What Do You Do?
 
It's been almost 2 years since we built my sons' rigs. They are all running fine but seems to me I should be doing some sort of tune up or clean out. Should I?

What do you do for periodic maintenance and well-care for your PC?

htismaqe 12-06-2018 12:51 PM

Windows 10 has built in maintenance routines for the most part. The only thing I run manually on my Windows machines is the built in Disk Cleanup tool.

eDave 12-06-2018 12:52 PM

Virus scan
Malware scan
Defrag
Plenty of PC cleanup utilities out there.

Fish 12-06-2018 12:56 PM

No longer necessary with the most recent OSes. If the machine isn't showing serious signs of performance issues, then just leave it alone.

I highly recommend not using any 3rd party PC Cleaner/Registry Fixer/Speed Booster/etc. They are all shit.

Fish 12-06-2018 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 13938862)
Virus scan
Malware scan
<strike>Defrag
Plenty of PC cleanup utilities out there.</strike>

FYP

TambaBerry 12-06-2018 12:58 PM

open it up and clean it out with canned air

htismaqe 12-06-2018 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fish (Post 13938882)
I highly recommend not using any 3rd party PC Cleaner/Registry Fixer/Speed Booster/etc. They are all shit.

Most of them will actually make things WORSE in the long run.

htismaqe 12-06-2018 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 13938893)
open it up and clean it out with canned air

Probably the biggest, best tip there is honestly.

vailpass 12-06-2018 01:50 PM

Thanks for the replies. I didn't realize Win10 performed maintenance.
We do virus scans and compressed air clean out (it's dusty her in AZ) fairly regularly so maybe a defrag and leave it at that.

What say you on organizing your hard drive, any tips?
SSD, what do you keep on it? Theirs are all 250 GB so there isn't room for much.

Fish 12-06-2018 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 13939047)
Thanks for the replies. I didn't realize Win10 performed maintenance.
We do virus scans and compressed air clean out (it's dusty her in AZ) fairly regularly so maybe a defrag and leave it at that.

What say you on organizing your hard drive, any tips?
SSD, what do you keep on it? Theirs are all 250 GB so there isn't room for much.

FYI... never try and defrag an SSD drive. It's 100% unnecessary due to the very different way it stores data. It will also drastically reduce the life span of the drive if you try it.

Defrag got a very undeserved reputation as being a fix all maintenance procedure back in the early Windows days. But it's the equivalent of blowing on the NES cartridge to make it work. 95% of the time it was unnecessary and did nothing to improve actual performance.

htismaqe 12-06-2018 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fish (Post 13939062)
FYI... never try and defrag an SSD drive. It's 100% unnecessary due to the very different way it stores data. It will also drastically reduce the life span of the drive if you try it.

Defrag got a very undeserved reputation as being a fix all maintenance procedure back in the early Windows days. But it's the equivalent of blowing on the NES cartridge to make it work. 95% of the time it was unnecessary and did nothing to improve actual performance.

All of this. Completely unnecessary to defrag modern filesystems and will actually shorten the life of an SSD.

Saulbadguy 12-06-2018 02:06 PM

I don't do shit.

listopencil 12-06-2018 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13938908)
Probably the biggest, best tip there is honestly.


But don't stick your hands in there when you spray. If you sneeze you'll pull all of the wiring loose. And then you'll end up paying someone to plug all of that shit back in.

jd1020 12-06-2018 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 13938893)
open it up and clean it out with canned air

I unplug mine, take both side panels off, and use a leaf blower on it. Canned air takes too much damn time and doesn't do a good enough job, imo.

TambaBerry 12-06-2018 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 13939089)
I unplug mine, take both side panels off, and use a leaf blower on it. Canned air takes too much damn time and doesn't do a good enough job, imo.

thats actually not a terrible idea. I just blow mine out every 2-3 weeks so it doesnt get build up on it.

vailpass 12-06-2018 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fish (Post 13939062)
FYI... never try and defrag an SSD drive. It's 100% unnecessary due to the very different way it stores data. It will also drastically reduce the life span of the drive if you try it.

Defrag got a very undeserved reputation as being a fix all maintenance procedure back in the early Windows days. But it's the equivalent of blowing on the NES cartridge to make it work. 95% of the time it was unnecessary and did nothing to improve actual performance.

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13939067)
All of this. Completely unnecessary to defrag modern filesystems and will actually shorten the life of an SSD.

Thank you boys, this I did not know.

Fishpicker 12-06-2018 02:16 PM

endust wipes for electronics is a pretty good product for cleaning monitor screens, touch screens and the backside of the PC. it has the same solution that is used for cleaning eye glasses.

vailpass 12-06-2018 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 13939087)
But don't stick your hands in there when you spray. If you sneeze you'll pull all of the wiring loose. And then you'll end up paying someone to plug all of that shit back in.

This is a random but much appreciated tale of caution.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 13939089)
I unplug mine, take both side panels off, and use a leaf blower on it. Canned air takes too much damn time and doesn't do a good enough job, imo.

And this is an awesome Cousin Eddy visual.

vailpass 12-06-2018 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fishpicker (Post 13939109)
endust wipes for electronics is a pretty good product for cleaning monitor screens, touch screens and the backside of the PC. it has the same solution that is used for cleaning eye glasses.

And made in the USA I see. $7 for a 70 count? I'm in. Gracias.

htismaqe 12-06-2018 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 13939089)
I unplug mine, take both side panels off, and use a leaf blower on it. Canned air takes too much damn time and doesn't do a good enough job, imo.

I use my air compressor. :)

Buehler445 12-06-2018 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13939118)
I use my air compressor. :)

Just make sure you’ve drained the water.

mikeyis4dcats. 12-06-2018 02:30 PM

a good powerwash now and again.

htismaqe 12-06-2018 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats. (Post 13939144)
a good powerwash now and again.

Back in the day when I did tech support on dialup and Pentium 3's, I had a customer actually submerge their keyboard and mouse in soapy water to "clean" it.

jd1020 12-06-2018 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 13939110)
And this is an awesome Cousin Eddy visual.

It's not as uncommon as you think. I got the idea from a youtuber that I watch named Carey Holzman, he's a computer tech.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/gcUSl9K2bZs?start=106" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

You can get a cheap ass electric leaf blower for like $30 and never have to continuously buy $5 cans of compressed air.

Baby Lee 12-06-2018 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 13939089)
I unplug mine, take both side panels off, and use a leaf blower on it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 13939110)
And this is an awesome Cousin Eddy visual.

'puter's full

jd1020 12-06-2018 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 13939161)
'puter's full

ROFL

htismaqe 12-06-2018 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 13939161)
'puter's full

ROFL

vailpass 12-06-2018 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 13939155)
It's not as uncommon as you think. I got the idea from a youtuber that I watch named Carey Holzman, he's a computer tech.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/gcUSl9K2bZs?start=106" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

You can get a cheap ass electric leaf blower for like $30 and never have to continuously buy $5 cans of compressed air.

Yeah that does make a lot of sense. I hate canned air getting so cold it loses pressure and starts shooting out liquid.

This thing looks like it might do the job.


https://www.amazon.com/XPOWER-Airrow...ct_top?ie=UTF8

srvy 12-06-2018 07:56 PM

Shop Vac works good by reversing the hose it becomes a blower. Its a little less powerful than a leaf blower less chance to damage anything. I have done this with a lot of electronics like tv, receivers, guitar amps etc.

BigRedChief 12-06-2018 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 13939083)
I don't do shit.

This! Unless your running Windows 95.

jd1020 12-06-2018 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by srvy (Post 13939815)
Shop Vac works good by reversing the hose it becomes a blower. Its a little less powerful than a leaf blower less chance to damage anything. I have done this with a lot of electronics like tv, receivers, guitar amps etc.

https://i.imgur.com/4JbT7Vw.jpg

Pants 12-06-2018 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 13939083)
I don't do shit.

Sauuuuuuul!!!!! Where have you been, dog?

Jewish Rabbi 12-06-2018 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13939148)
Back in the day when I did tech support on dialup and Pentium 3's, I had a customer actually submerge their keyboard and mouse in soapy water to "clean" it.

Not as stupid as it seems. I’ve done this with sticky keyboards I couldn’t get clean. The key is to make sure it is 100% dry before plugging it back in.

cooper barrett 12-06-2018 10:52 PM

I have a laptop keyboard that needs a pint of beer cleaned out of it, Saved the laptop but may give it a bath in windshield solution and dry it out and see what happens. Cause $15 counts

I use a program called Hitman Pro and have been happy as it's portable and does what it advertises. YMMV

Baby Lee 12-07-2018 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 13940192)
Not as stupid as it seems. I’ve done this with sticky keyboards I couldn’t get clean. The key is to make sure it is 100% dry before plugging it back in.

Most keyboards nowadays, you can crack the case and all the mechanisms are fairly waterproof anyway. Unless you have a clicky keyboard, it's a pressure sheet wedged between the keys and the base, and all the electronics are on a little chip up by the power cord or IR transmitter, depending on your type [heh] of keyboard.

I've thrown the individual keys along with the clamshell of the board into the dishwasher before, then just wiped down the pressure sheet and reassembled.

vailpass 12-07-2018 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 13940192)
Not as stupid as it seems. I’ve done this with sticky keyboards I couldn’t get clean. The key is to make sure it is 100% dry before plugging it back in.

Not even going to ask how you keep getting keyboards that sticky but might a suggest a throw rag?

Fish 12-07-2018 10:26 AM

Seriously... wash your disgusting hands, you filthy animals....

srvy 12-07-2018 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 13940685)
Not even going to ask how you keep getting keyboards that sticky but might a suggest a throw rag?

ROFL

Pants 12-08-2018 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 13939155)
It's not as uncommon as you think. I got the idea from a youtuber that I watch named Carey Holzman, he's a computer tech.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/gcUSl9K2bZs?start=106" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

You can get a cheap ass electric leaf blower for like $30 and never have to continuously buy $5 cans of compressed air.

This is awesome. I'm gonna try doing it today.

I have also decided to finally install my M.2 drive and do a fresh Windows install. It's been a while since I've done anything with my PC.

Imon Yourside 12-08-2018 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 13938893)
open it up and clean it out with canned air

Or buy an air compressor and save some money in the long run. :)

Keep an eye on your WinSxS directory inside of windows, it can kill 90% of your C drive space over time. It just grows and grows and never deflates.

Imon Yourside 12-08-2018 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13939118)
I use my air compressor. :)

OH snap just saw this posted, this works best. Nothing like free canned air which is what 7 bucks plus a pop?

htismaqe 12-10-2018 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 13940192)
Not as stupid as it seems. I’ve done this with sticky keyboards I couldn’t get clean. The key is to make sure it is 100% dry before plugging it back in.

That was 20+ years ago. Keyboards are a little different in this day and age. ;)

Predarat 12-12-2018 10:05 AM

Irony was when people used to download Virus and Malware scanners from KaZaA

Otter 12-13-2018 07:04 PM

A little bit of WD-40 lithium spray on the fans after a good cleaning doesn't hurt either. Just be careful what you hit and make sure not you're packing more dust in the moving parts.

Perineum Ripper 12-13-2018 07:44 PM

https://i.giphy.com/media/wcrlWKmBSFhnO/200.gif


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